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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Matthew on July 21, 2009, 04:50:46 PM
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Is it REALLY that common?
Almost all the pagans on that site say "if it feels good, do it -- just do it in the bedroom for the sake of propriety". Once again, it's like we're living in Sodom or Gomorrha right before the fire and brimstone destroyed them.
These people are surrendering to Original Sin is what they're doing. They're destroying their daughters and don't even realize it. (maybe they do?) I suppose it's hard to deny pleasure to your 2 year old when you do the same thing yourself! (Just like with TV -- if you're addicted, you're not going to make your child completely abstain)
http://www.babycenter.com/400_how-do-i-break-my-toddler-of-the-habit-of-touching-herself_500275_1000.bc?intcmp=rel_wps_qa&pn=Article%20page
I'm sure I'll figure out what to do/say if I ever had to deal with this -- I just know that teaching children purity is EXTREMELY important, and from the youngest age.
Parents who neglect to form this virtue in their children will have much to answer for.
Matthew
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I was completely shocked by the comments there. I totally agree with you, Matthew.
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How would you stop a 2 year old from doing that? I do not have children this issue is strange to me. They are below the age of reason and are naturally going to do what feels good.
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How would you stop a 2 year old from doing that?
The same way you teach them to do (or not do) anything else.
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That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.
It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.
Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.
I think one of the greatest advantages a Catholic has is their knowledge of Original Sin. That alone can help a parent to know how to discipline their child. You'll see bad behavior for what it is.
Matthew
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I corrected them, directed their fingers to something they can do. I really try to make sure that my boys are BUSY all the time. With two daughters and four sons it is the boys that need the most direction to other things.
I could not get the site to pull up, however, at the top the question is "Should pregnant women wear bikinis?" Nuff said about this site.
Oh yes, the answer is by all means they should. You did not think they would say nobody should wear a bikini, especially after they have been raised to do what thou wilt their whole life.
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It helps to keep them away from public schooling and associating with non-Catholic people.
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It helps to keep them away from public schooling and associating with non-Catholic people.
Amen to that. And away from nominal "Catholics" as well.
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Children in public schools are also very perverse, even at young ages. I have heard disgusting conversations among children as young as 5 or 6 at my youngest brother's elementary school.
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That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.
It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.
My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.
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That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.
It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.
My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.
Why didn't you quote the next line from my post?
Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.
I know some kids can be stubborn and strong-willed -- I've met some of them.
But one can't complain if that's their child -- it can be a good thing.
I have two kids that aren't newborns. My son is VERY easily led -- by a parent OR a sibling/peer. As long as I keep him in good company, he should be fine. But he would be the type to take massive damage if I let him watch TV, advertisements, or sent him to public school.
My daughter seems to be a little more toward the strong-willed category, but I've met plenty who are much more so. So I know they exist.
But if you CAN manage to form a strong-willed child, they will be leaders of their peers. They will be strong against the world, etc. and you'll have little or nothing to worry about. If you raise an "easy" child, you'll always have to worry about someone else overwriting your "programming".
Matthew
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That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.
It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.
My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.
Why didn't you quote the next line from my post?
I did! I just didn't quote it.
Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.
I try. I think my daughter is choleric. That's what a priest reckons anyway.
I know some kids can be stubborn and strong-willed -- I've met some of them.
But one can't complain if that's their child -- it can be a good thing.
True. There is a place for it, and I often find my daughter's stubbornness admirable! But not when it's directed at me! LOL!
But if you CAN manage to form a strong-willed child, they will be leaders of their peers. They will be strong against the world, etc. and you'll have little or nothing to worry about. If you raise an "easy" child, you'll always have to worry about someone else overwriting your "programming".
My son was easy at first, but he seems to be developing a mind of his own like his sister. It's a terrible thing being bossed about and nagged by a nearly 4 year old, who doesn't take "no" for an answer, but knows how to give it!
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Is it REALLY that common?
Having seen what "it" refers to, I don't think so. I was unaware of it throughout my childhood, and I'm sure if everyone was doing it, the matter would have come up in the playground, with children saying what fun it apparently is.
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Is it REALLY that common?
Having seen what "it" refers to, I don't think so. I was unaware of it throughout my childhood, and I'm sure if everyone was doing it, the matter would have come up in the playground, with children saying what fun it apparently is.
No, since it is a mortal sin it would bite at the conscious and one would not want to talk about it.
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Know what it reminds me of?
The classic "everyone is doing it" referring to adult activities.
But we all know that those raised with morals routinely avoid the behavior claimed to be "impossible to avoid" by the pagans.
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Oh, my gosh. This is disgusting. I didn't know children that young were doing this. The only time I knew about babies doing something like this is was when I read an article about a man who grew up in a religious cult and they taught their sons and daugthers to be sɛҳuąƖ from the time they were 1 years old.
I believe it is the devil leading so many of these babies and toddlers to discover the pleasure of their private part. The devil directly led me to it. I didn't discover it until I was a sophomore in high school. My parents had never brought up the issue and I had never been taught the faith so I wasn't taught it was wrong. But, even though I had started to do it, I kept feeling really guilty (and not knowing why). I was struggling with guilty feelings when, one day, during free period in the library of my high school, I was bored and decided to walk through a book aisle to pick a book to read. Well, the very first book I picked, without even looking at the title yet, was a book about sɛҳuąƖity. As if that wasn't odd enough, the book happened to be written by a priest. (and this was a non-Catholic school). I quickly flipped through the pages and, it would seem that the devil himself stopped the pages from flipping, because the first page I landed on talked about masterbation and how it was OK to do it. Since it was written by a priest, I became convinced that it was OK and committed this sin without guilt for 10 years before the grace of God led me to learn about my faith and become a practicing Catholic.