Author Topic: Pagan publication has me worried about MY daughters... (Read 1732 times)

Matthew · « **on:** July 21, 2009, 04:50:46 PM »

Is it REALLY that common?

Almost all the pagans on that site say "if it feels good, do it -- just do it in the bedroom for the sake of propriety". Once again, it's like we're living in Sodom or Gomorrha right before the fire and brimstone destroyed them.

These people are surrendering to Original Sin is what they're doing. They're destroying their daughters and don't even realize it. (maybe they do?) I suppose it's hard to deny pleasure to your 2 year old when you do the same thing yourself! (Just like with TV -- if you're addicted, you're not going to make your child completely abstain)

http://www.babycenter.com/400_how-do-i-break-my-toddler-of-the-habit-of-touching-herself_500275_1000.bc?intcmp=rel_wps_qa&pn=Article%20page

I'm sure I'll figure out what to do/say if I ever had to deal with this -- I just know that teaching children purity is EXTREMELY important, and from the youngest age.

Parents who neglect to form this virtue in their children will have much to answer for.

Matthew

Dylan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:09:23 PM »

I was completely shocked by the comments there. I totally agree with you, Matthew.

sedetrad · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:19:56 PM »

How would you stop a 2 year old from doing that? I do not have children this issue is strange to me. They are below the age of reason and are naturally going to do what feels good.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:40:14 PM »

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How would you stop a 2 year old from doing that?

The same way you teach them to do (or not do) anything else.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:56:36 PM »

That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.

It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.

Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.

I think one of the greatest advantages a Catholic has is their knowledge of Original Sin. That alone can help a parent to know how to discipline their child. You'll see bad behavior for what it is.

Matthew

Dawn · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2009, 08:38:11 PM »

I corrected them, directed their fingers to something they can do. I really try to make sure that my boys are BUSY all the time. With two daughters and four sons it is the boys that need the most direction to other things.

I could not get the site to pull up, however, at the top the question is "Should pregnant women wear bikinis?" Nuff said about this site.
Oh yes, the answer is by all means they should. You did not think they would say nobody should wear a bikini, especially after they have been raised to do what thou wilt their whole life.

Vladimir · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2009, 08:51:43 PM »

It helps to keep them away from public schooling and associating with non-Catholic people.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2009, 09:08:29 PM »

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It helps to keep them away from public schooling and associating with non-Catholic people.

Amen to that. And away from nominal "Catholics" as well.

Vladimir · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2009, 11:25:47 PM »

Children in public schools are also very perverse, even at young ages. I have heard disgusting conversations among children as young as 5 or 6 at my youngest brother's elementary school.

clare · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2009, 06:14:07 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.

It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.

My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2009, 10:17:27 AM »

Quote from: clare

Quote from: ChantCd
That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.

It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.

My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.

Why didn't you quote the next line from my post?

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Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.

I know some kids can be stubborn and strong-willed -- I've met some of them.

But one can't complain if that's their child -- it can be a good thing.

I have two kids that aren't newborns. My son is VERY easily led -- by a parent OR a sibling/peer. As long as I keep him in good company, he should be fine. But he would be the type to take massive damage if I let him watch TV, advertisements, or sent him to public school.

My daughter seems to be a little more toward the strong-willed category, but I've met plenty who are much more so. So I know they exist.

But if you CAN manage to form a strong-willed child, they will be leaders of their peers. They will be strong against the world, etc. and you'll have little or nothing to worry about. If you raise an "easy" child, you'll always have to worry about someone else overwriting your "programming".

Matthew

clare · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2009, 10:50:53 AM »

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Quote from: clare
Quote from: ChantCd
That's what I was thinking -- simply correct them. You'd be surprised how easily you can guide your kids into virtue -- at an early age -- by just requiring (or prohibiting) certain behavior.

It's not like they're strong-willed, set-in-their-ways, rebellious teenagers at that age.

My daughter has been a strong-willed, set-in-her-ways, rebellious teenager from birth.

Why didn't you quote the next line from my post?

I did! I just didn't quote it.

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Now kids have different dispositions/temperaments, and that has to be taken into account. But I think parents need to simply TRY and guide their kids down the path of virtue, and not surrender to Original Sin before the fight even begins.

I try. I think my daughter is choleric. That's what a priest reckons anyway.

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I know some kids can be stubborn and strong-willed -- I've met some of them.

But one can't complain if that's their child -- it can be a good thing.

True. There is a place for it, and I often find my daughter's stubbornness admirable! But not when it's directed at me! LOL!

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But if you CAN manage to form a strong-willed child, they will be leaders of their peers. They will be strong against the world, etc. and you'll have little or nothing to worry about. If you raise an "easy" child, you'll always have to worry about someone else overwriting your "programming".

My son was easy at first, but he seems to be developing a mind of his own like his sister. It's a terrible thing being bossed about and nagged by a nearly 4 year old, who doesn't take "no" for an answer, but knows how to give it!

clare · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2009, 10:55:19 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Is it REALLY that common?

Having seen what "it" refers to, I don't think so. I was unaware of it throughout my childhood, and I'm sure if everyone was doing it, the matter would have come up in the playground, with children saying what fun it apparently is.

Vladimir · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:00:28 AM »

Quote from: clare

Quote from: ChantCd
Is it REALLY that common?

Having seen what "it" refers to, I don't think so. I was unaware of it throughout my childhood, and I'm sure if everyone was doing it, the matter would have come up in the playground, with children saying what fun it apparently is.

No, since it is a mortal sin it would bite at the conscious and one would not want to talk about it.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:01:41 AM »

Know what it reminds me of?

The classic "everyone is doing it" referring to adult activities.

But we all know that those raised with morals routinely avoid the behavior claimed to be "impossible to avoid" by the pagans.