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Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
« on: February 10, 2023, 03:35:09 PM »
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  • Read this headline. Note your first answer/impression. Then think about it for 10 min. and see if your view changes.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-will-be-a-tenant-my-boyfriend-wants-me-to-move-into-his-home-and-pay-rent-i-suggested-only-paying-for-utilities-and-groceries-what-should-i-do-11675697701

    My point: old norms/views do not apply to totally different, modern situations WHICH MIGHT BEAR A SUPERFICIAL RESEMBLANCE TO THE OLD.
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    Re: Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
    « Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 03:35:48 PM »
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  • Have you read the headline at least, and done the "exercise"?

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    See the next post for my comments.
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    Re: Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
    « Reply #2 on: February 10, 2023, 03:39:24 PM »
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  • In the olden days, it was TRUE and GOOD for a man to support his family: his wife-for-life, and all the children God chose to send him.

    But does that really apply to this situation? A boyfriend shacking up with a woman, no doubt on birth control? Presumably they're both enjoying the physical relationship? Why SHOULDN'T she pay exactly 50% of ALL the expenses? She can get just as high-paying a job as he, if anything she has an edge in the job market. She wears pants, has as good/better education than him, and is an Independent Wahmynz.

    If he gives her any discount, he's paying for access to... I won't be crude. But you get the idea. She's basically aiming for a certain socially acceptable form of prostitution here. If it were a male roommate, no one would expect this man to give him a discount. But because it's a FEMALE...which superficially looks/acts like his WIFE, people get all old fashioned in their expectations for him.

    BUT...why should they? DOES this woman deserve all the traditional care, concern, and privileges reserved for WIVES of old? I don't think so.


    P.S. If she were his "girlfriend" of 15 years, basically a common-law wife, having one or more children with him -- my opinion would be completely different. Then it goes back to the natural law obligations for a man to support his wife and family -- even if that man rejects the Church and Her laws concerning marriage.
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    Re: Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
    « Reply #3 on: February 10, 2023, 05:10:57 PM »
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  • I must say, my first impression did not change. I saw it was a man taking care of himself when living with his girlfriend.

    Since it is a girlfriend, and not a wife to be married until death does them part, a man must set some conditions and take precautions lest the relationship falls apart.

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    Re: Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
    « Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 05:17:59 PM »
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  • It's really fascinating to see how, the more you look at situations of this type that arise from the moral chaos of the modern world, the more you see that there is really only one way to handle this type of thing -- male/female relationships, commitment, children, marriage, family life, mother/father roles, etc. -- and that way is the one that God designed. This proves that there isn't any other way to do this other than what God designed, and it's interesting that this can be proved even by observation of people trying to do things differently.

    It's only because people have rejected the Christian notion of marriage and family life that they end up with an interminable list of problems like the one described in this article, problems that just can't be solved.

    Note that trads NEVER end up in problematic situations like this, unless they're living like pagans.


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    Re: Outdated norms applied to different, modern situations
    « Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 05:35:50 PM »
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  • The word "norms" refers to statistical norms, in which the subjective opinion of the statistical majority establishes the rules.

    Objective Reality, on the other hand, refers to the Truths established by Our Creator. An example of objective reality is that God created male and female. The truths of Ojbective Reality are true regardless of anyone's opinion.

    During Christendom, society was ruled by Objective Reality.
    Now that satan-worhipping globalists rule governments and media, society is being ruled by whatever they say. It's not even ruled by subjective reality anymore since the PTB control the media and therefore control what is perceived as subjective reaity.
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