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There are still conservative Protestant congregations as well, that would have an issue with such a blatant display of decolletage.  Some of them have standards that are more or less the same as what we call "Marylike".

Some are even stricter. I’ve visited or for a time, attended some of them during my wandering in the wilderness years. One even had yardsticks on either side of the door. If your hem was more than an inch above the mark, the church ladies would not let you in. Those women in pants, low-cut tops, cut-outs, wearing any denim whatsoever, or without sleeves covering the elbows were not allowed. They kept a small supply of chapel veils and hats for loan. For the men, they kept some blackness and dark blue ties. Men had to be wearing a suit and tie or bow tie, and shoes, no sneakers, sandals, etc. They had to wear long sleeve button up shirts, and suit jackets were definitely preferred, required if the shirt was short sleeved, in which case, the jacket stayed on. If it got really hot, men could remove the jacket if the shirt was long sleeved. Rolling the sleeves up was allowed only if the elbow remained covered. The rules applied to children once they could walk independently. Exceptions were made for infants, elderly or those with physical and/or serious mental challenges. The building had a wood stove for heat and only windows for AC! It was in Caney Creek, TN, an offshoot of Old Mennonites who’d gone more conservative from a church that had “gone too high” (liberal) in the 1960’s and 1970’s. It was founded in 1983, a fact I find interesting. Old timers from SSPX and SSPV may find that date of interest. They dropped the word Mennonite and referred to themselves as Christian Congregation at Caney Creek. Their schoolhouse doubled as their church. 

And where are these men?  The priests place signs in their chapels, but how many actually address the issue with a woman?  The fathers don't want to push back on the wife and daughters desire to fit in.  So maybe the men need the graces to get into fights with other men to get their women to cover up?

Is that the answer? Should we go around and humiliate people?

Some will say yes and some will say no.  It will work for some and send others to hell. 

Maybe we need to be better equipped to do what needs to be done in the moment and let the Holy Ghost guide us.  Accept to hear the Holy Ghost, we need to conquer self.

Women should cover up and show joy,  so that other women will want what they have.  Men should be extra complimentary to the women who are dressed well and open doors for her, and such  so other women want the attention.  I don't know, these are just random suggestions.

Excuse me, but if someone, man or woman, goes to hell because of immodesty, it is entirely their own fault.

If a father has any fault. It is because he was weak before, but he may now see the light. He has to make reparation, and manage the situation as best he can. And ask for prayers from other men, who would gladly support him in that way. It's a man thing, you might find that hard to understand.

It is your job to pray for these weak fathers, and not to criticize. 


When it comes to the chapel however, then it is the honor of the Holy place, which is not just the priests responsibility, but all the communities responsibility.

So if a woman wants to enter into the holy of holies dressed like a harlot, then priest, man, woman, child, would be well within their rights to absolutely shame the woman, and throw her out. Physically, if necessary. 

Shame is a tactic that works well on women, even better than men. You may get a reaction that is vicious, but smart good men, know to anticipate and deflect this cleverly.  6000  years of human history, and nothing has changed about our nature.

Maybe we should stop taking these posts as criticisms and just as other people's opinions.

If the post makes you feel criticized then maybe that is God weighing on your heart, not the opinion of the person posting.

In another post, Ladislaus left again because he felt criticized by what Matthew said.  Matthew's post was an opinion about a topic, not a direct hit at Ladislaus.

Here on the internet we do not have the luxury of all the slight cues we give off in person.  We decide how people sound or what they mean and react accordingly, we all do this.

Yes I will pray, but you shouldn't assume that because I have an opinion I am not praying as well.

I am not assuming that.