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Offline cassini

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Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
« on: August 14, 2023, 01:06:56 PM »
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #1 on: August 14, 2023, 01:42:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on August 14, 2023, 01:06:56 PM
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/d018rpLuminousMysteries.html
    There may be nothing contra fidem about them, but it throws off the entire rhythm of the Rosary.  I don't say them myself.

    Yet one more instance of post-Vatican II Popes wanting to come in and make a change to something that is working perfectly well, a kind of "Kilroy was here" mindset.  It's very common among narcissistic middle and upper managers who come into a company or a position, and want to make some kind of change for change's sake, to try and legitimize themselves, or just to throw everyone off balance under the rubric of "change is inevitable and you need to adapt to it".  Countless man-hours are wasted to stoke the egos of self-important bosses who, likely as often as not, are suffering from "imposter syndrome".

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #2 on: August 14, 2023, 01:52:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on August 14, 2023, 01:06:56 PM
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/d018rpLuminousMysteries.html
    While praying the Luminous Mysteries does not go against the faith (there is obviously nothing heretical about them), attempting to add to the Rosary was certainly not a good thing. 
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #3 on: August 14, 2023, 01:53:49 PM »
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    • Outside of the fact that the “luminous” mysteries (I prefer to call them “Illuminati”) being a novelty created by modernist JPII, they completely alter the purpose of the Rosary given by Our Blessed Mother to St. Dominic, which is honoring the mysteries of Salvation: The Incarnation, The Suffering and Death, and The Resurrection of Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, with 150 Aves representing the 150 psalms.  

    It also utterly destroys the Novena which consists of nine (3x3), a Trinitarian number.  Even more so, the Rosary Novenas to Our Lady of Pompeii which requires three novenas of petition followed by three novenas of thanksgiving.
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    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #4 on: August 14, 2023, 01:56:16 PM »
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    • The 150 Hail Mary's said in the full Rosary are part of Tradition, being that they correspond to the 150 psalms of King David in Scripture.  Religious pray/chant the 150 psalms daily as part of the Divine Office and the Rosary is the laity's way of taking part in the Divine Office and praying with the Church.

    Changing the most Holy Rosary is a major break with the past, with Tradition and with Scripture (like all of V2).  It's an abomination.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #5 on: August 14, 2023, 02:08:49 PM »
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    • “The formula of the Rosary, too, is excellently adapted to prayer in common, so that it has been styled, not without reason, "The Psalter of Mary." And that old custom of our forefathers ought to be preserved or else restored, according to which Christian families, whether in town or country, were religiously wont at close of day, when their labours were at an end, to assemble before a figure of Our Lady and alternately recite the Rosary.”

    FIDENTEM PIUMQUE ANIMUM
    ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII
    ON THE ROSARY

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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #6 on: August 14, 2023, 06:09:33 PM »
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    • This jєωιѕн, schismatic pope had incredible audacity to create his own Rosary.

                                       
                                        World class Judaizer

    He was a world class actor, who made Bergolio look like a burlesque vaudeville clown.

    JPII's acting skills exceeded any of the usurper popes after Pope Pius XII.

    During his 25 year pontificate which included 109 tours, he spread the heresy of ecuмenism, scandalizing billions of souls throughout the world and the Church.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #7 on: August 14, 2023, 09:55:07 PM »
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    • Of all his offenses, Wojtyla the Worst most offended me when, in his poison pen on the Rosary, he was so proud of his wonderful self that he explained that he was perfecting the Christology of the Rosary.  Such ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian gall to pretend that miserable actor could perfect what Heaven gave us!!!


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    "I believe, however, that to bring out fully the Christological depth of the Rosary it would be suitable to make an addition to the traditional pattern…" ROSARIUM VIRGINIS MARIAE §19
    https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters/2002/docuмents/hf_jp-ii_apl_20021016_rosarium-virginis-mariae.html

     It is no mere accident that ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian chose to name them "luminous."  Occultists, including Kabbalists, are obsessed with "luminosity." You know, as in… "the light bearer" himself, Lucifer!

    Jews love their inside jokes and gematria.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2023, 01:00:45 PM »
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    • There’s nothing wrong with meditating on them or using a Rosary to keep track, however, they aren’t part of the Rosary.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2023, 10:57:47 PM »
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    • We always called them the Illuminati mysteries….
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #10 on: August 16, 2023, 06:00:01 AM »
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    • I seem to recall walking out of a Novus Ordo church when I realized they were going to pray the Luminous Mysteries instead of the Traditional Mysteries, but this is at least 10 years ago so I can't remember the specifics.  I do remember I was a member of the Catholic Answers forum at the time and being chastised there for doing so.  
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2023, 05:06:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on August 16, 2023, 06:00:01 AM
    I seem to recall walking out of a Novus Ordo church when I realized they were going to pray the Luminous Mysteries instead of the Traditional Mysteries, but this is at least 10 years ago so I can't remember the specifics.  I do remember I was a member of the Catholic Answers forum at the time and being chastised there for doing so. 
    I wouldn’t walk out, but since they aren’t the Rosary, I’d stay afterwards to pray the real Rosary in reparation for those who wouldn’t be saying theirs.  
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #12 on: August 16, 2023, 05:41:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on August 16, 2023, 06:00:01 AM
    I seem to recall walking out of a Novus Ordo church when I realized they were going to pray the Luminous Mysteries instead of the Traditional Mysteries, but this is at least 10 years ago so I can't remember the specifics.  I do remember I was a member of the Catholic Answers forum at the time and being chastised there for doing so. 

    I don't fool with them.  As far as I'm concerned, they're not part of the Rosary.
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #13 on: August 16, 2023, 09:36:18 PM »
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    Re: Opinion on the Luminous mysteries of Pope John Paul II.
    « Reply #14 on: August 17, 2023, 10:10:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on August 14, 2023, 09:55:07 PM
    Of all his offenses, Wojtyla the Worst most offended me when, in his poison pen on the Rosary, he was so proud of his wonderful self that he explained that he was perfecting the Christology of the Rosary.  Such ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian gall to pretend that miserable actor could perfect what Heaven gave us!!!


     It is no mere accident that ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian chose to name them "luminous."  Occultists, including Kabbalists, are obsessed with "luminosity." You know, as in… "the light bearer" himself, Lucifer!

    Jєωs love their inside jokes and gematria.

    That's the dead give away "luminous" freemasons and their ilk love that word "illuminate" "thousand points of light".  It's definitely not motivated by anything from God, while nothing seems overtly heretical in and of themselves, I would never pray them just because of the connotation and connection to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.
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