Author Topic: Only Some Jєωs Are Bad (Read 3530 times)

Curious · « **on:** September 30, 2014, 12:45:04 AM »

So I was discussing 9/11 with an acquaintance of mine and I directed him to this website:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

I find the information there pretty convincing that Zionists are the most likely group behind that event. So he replies to me that he could believe it's possible. But that the expose lacks footnotes, so he doesn't know how seriously he can take the claims. He's recently come to believe that LBJ was behind Kennedy's assassination, and so is aware of the power of elites and what they can get away with. However, assuming he came to believe Zionists were behind 9/11, he would make the distinction between them and Jєωs at large. If I were to tell him that Judaism teaches that when the Jєωιѕн messiah returns all gentiles will become slaves of Jєωs, he would reply that most Jєωs don't believe that and don't even know of that teaching. Which is probably true.

The problem when dealing with certain types of people, is that if you show them a bunch of Jєωs doing bad things they will not take that as reflective of Jєωs as a whole, but just a fraction of Jєωs.

It's frustrating dealing with people like this. How best to go about convincing someone like this, who's not necessarily of ill will but who's a bit naive?

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2014, 04:19:43 AM »

Curious said,

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So I was discussing 9/11 with an acquaintance of mine and I directed him to this website:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

I find the information there pretty convincing that Zionists are the most likely group behind that event.

Not all Jєωs are Zionists. I can vouch for this, having known a lot of Jєωs in my time.

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However, assuming he came to believe Zionists were behind 9/11, he would make the distinction between them and Jєωs at large.

Your friend is right to make the distinction. Not all Germans were nαzιs.

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If I were to tell him that Judaism teaches that when the Jєωιѕн messiah returns all gentiles will become slaves of Jєωs, he would reply that most Jєωs don't believe that and don't even know of that teaching. Which is probably true.

I'm glad you acknowledge that most Jєωs don't believe this teaching, or even know about it. This is true, in my experience.

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The problem when dealing with certain types of people, is that if you show them a bunch of Jєωs doing bad things they will not take that as reflective of Jєωs as a whole, but just a fraction of Jєωs.

It's frustrating dealing with people like this. How best to go about convincing someone like this, who's not necessarily of ill will but who's a bit naive?

A "bunch of Jєωs doing bad things" is certainly not "reflective of Jєωs as a whole". In my experience, most Jєωs would rather go shopping than plot the domination of the world. Does that make me one of those naive people you refer to?

I find the endless demonisation of the Jєωs to be found on this forum to be both disturbing and dangerous. Yes, I agree, that the Zionists have their plans and I am as aware of them as anyone else here. But please, it really is true that not all Jєωs are Zionists. Most Jєωs I have known have an emotional attachment to the state of Israel, this is true. But that does not make them Zionists.

Most Jєωs I have known, and liked very much, would rather sit you at the table and ply you with excellent food and drink than plot to enslave you.

CharlesII · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2014, 06:44:12 AM »

Awkward, I agree with your basic assessment of "most Jєωs" however try discussing 9/11, the USS Liberty, or the fact that "the h0Ɩ0cαųst" (not the Jєωιѕн Bolshevik slaughter of Russia) can be shown to not have happened. You will find that these wonderful people are suddenly advocates of very definite thought policing.

If you want links for any of the above topics, let me know. Here's a great piece on the origins of WWII that should be widely read and known:

The Transfer Agreement and the Boycott Fever of 1933

Frances · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2014, 06:46:39 AM »

:dancing-banana:
As in all such cases, a distinction must be made between the individual soul, created "in God's image" and a people as a whole. Christ Himself made this distinction. Thus, we have the "good" Samaritan, the Roman centurion with "great faith" not seen in all Israel, etc. At the end of time, Christ will judge not only individual souls, but nations and peoples.
While growing up, many of my friends were Jєωs. That's who lived in my neighborhood. I also had Indian and Asian friends for the same reason. I had only one black friend, not because of the general characteristics of blacks, but because there was one black family in the entire school district, and they happened to live two blocks from my home. I also happened to like their daughter who was in my class at school.
Current example: I have Muslim neighbors in the building across the street. Fa'ad is married to one wife, Fadimah. (Fatima!) They have seven children. They aren't terrorists. Of course, one never knows for sure, but I highly doubt Fadimah is, at this moment, plotting my beheading. In all likelihood, she is bustling around getting breakfast and seeing to her four girls getting out the door to school on time. Fa'ad is more likely mentally going over his workday tasks as he rides the subway than salivating over the forty virgins he'll get after blowing up the Manhattan building where he works.
For myself, I'm concerned mainly with getting on the subway, getting off at the right stop, finding the right building, and, hopefully NOT having to miss any more work because of jury duty. I thought of getting myself a St. Joan of Arc costume and sword and taking out those Freemasons and Revolutionaries who run the system, but, well, what do CI readers think?

OHCA · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2014, 08:16:46 AM »

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

Curious said,
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So I was discussing 9/11 with an acquaintance of mine and I directed him to this website:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

I find the information there pretty convincing that Zionists are the most likely group behind that event.

Not all Jєωs are Zionists. I can vouch for this, having known a lot of Jєωs in my time.

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However, assuming he came to believe Zionists were behind 9/11, he would make the distinction between them and Jєωs at large.

Your friend is right to make the distinction. Not all Germans were nαzιs.

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If I were to tell him that Judaism teaches that when the Jєωιѕн messiah returns all gentiles will become slaves of Jєωs, he would reply that most Jєωs don't believe that and don't even know of that teaching. Which is probably true.

I'm glad you acknowledge that most Jєωs don't believe this teaching, or even know about it. This is true, in my experience.

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The problem when dealing with certain types of people, is that if you show them a bunch of Jєωs doing bad things they will not take that as reflective of Jєωs as a whole, but just a fraction of Jєωs.

It's frustrating dealing with people like this. How best to go about convincing someone like this, who's not necessarily of ill will but who's a bit naive?

A "bunch of Jєωs doing bad things" is certainly not "reflective of Jєωs as a whole". In my experience, most Jєωs would rather go shopping than plot the domination of the world. Does that make me one of those naive people you refer to?

I find the endless demonisation of the Jєωs to be found on this forum to be both disturbing and dangerous. Yes, I agree, that the Zionists have their plans and I am as aware of them as anyone else here. But please, it really is true that not all Jєωs are Zionists. Most Jєωs I have known have an emotional attachment to the state of Israel, this is true. But that does not make them Zionists.

Most Jєωs I have known, and liked very much, would rather sit you at the table and ply you with excellent food and drink than plot to enslave you.

Didn't the Good Friday prayer used to reference "perfidious zionists..." ...hmmmm..... Or was it .... maybe .... "perfidious Jєωs" ....

OHCA · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2014, 08:23:25 AM »

Quote from: Frances

:dancing-banana:
As in all such cases, a distinction must be made between the individual soul, created "in God's image" and a people as a whole. Christ Himself made this distinction. Thus, we have the "good" Samaritan, the Roman centurion with "great faith" not seen in all Israel, etc. At the end of time, Christ will judge not only individual souls, but nations and peoples.
While growing up, many of my friends were Jєωs. That's who lived in my neighborhood. I also had Indian and Asian friends for the same reason. I had only one black friend, not because of the general characteristics of blacks, but because there was one black family in the entire school district, and they happened to live two blocks from my home. I also happened to like their daughter who was in my class at school.
Current example: I have Muslim neighbors in the building across the street. Fa'ad is married to one wife, Fadimah. (Fatima!) They have seven children. They aren't terrorists. Of course, one never knows for sure, but I highly doubt Fadimah is, at this moment, plotting my beheading. In all likelihood, she is bustling around getting breakfast and seeing to her four girls getting out the door to school on time. Fa'ad is more likely mentally going over his workday tasks as he rides the subway than salivating over the forty virgins he'll get after blowing up the Manhattan building where he works.
For myself, I'm concerned mainly with getting on the subway, getting off at the right stop, finding the right building, and, hopefully NOT having to miss any more work because of jury duty. I thought of getting myself a St. Joan of Arc costume and sword and taking out those Freemasons and Revolutionaries who run the system, but, well, what do CI readers think?

Ohhhh--isn't multiculturalism and this "melting pot" created by freemasons and Jєωry wonderful.

--NOT--

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2014, 09:04:14 AM »

Charles II said,

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Awkward, I agree with your basic assessment of "most Jєωs" however try discussing 9/11, the USS Liberty, or the fact that "the h0Ɩ0cαųst" (not the Jєωιѕн Bolshevik slaughter of Russia) can be shown to not have happened. You will find that these wonderful people are suddenly advocates of very definite thought policing.

I have, in fact, confronted a Jєωιѕн friend of mine with some uncomfortable (for her) facts about the preponderance of Jєωs in the murderous Bolshevik regime. Most Jєωs are so used to the victim narrative they have been given that the idea that there is blood on Jєωιѕн hands too comes as something of a shock. I gave her a few names of leading Jєωιѕн Bolsheviks - Bukharin, Sverdlov, Yagoda etc, not to mention Lazar Kaganovich, also known as 'the butcher of Ukraine' for his leading role in the Ukrainian Holodomor (genocide by hunger) of the 1930s which led to the death of up to 7 million people.

After a stunned silence, she took it quite well. My approach to this subject would be to point out the facts without making wild accusations. This is news to most Jєωιѕн people, or may be something they were vaguely aware of but chose not to dwell upon.

I have also questioned her about the тαℓмυd, about Zionist plans for a greater Israel with its capital at Jerusalem, and about plans to rebuild the temple in anticipation of the long-awaited Messiah who will sit there. When I mentioned that several Church Fathers identified this scenario with the rise of the Antichrist, she just laughed and said she didn't believe any of it.

We're still friends, by the way. Oh, and Aaron Russo was Jєωιѕн, the same Aaron Russo who, in an interview with Alex Jones, described how David Rockefeller told him in advance about plans for 9/11.

Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2014, 09:22:52 AM »

Quote from: OHCA

Ohhhh--isn't multiculturalism and this "melting pot" created by freemasons and Jєωry wonderful.

--NOT--

:dancing-banana:It certainly was on Pentecost!

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2014, 09:24:54 AM »

OHCA said,

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Didn't the Good Friday prayer used to reference "perfidious zionists..." ...hmmmm..... Or was it .... maybe .... "perfidious Jєωs" ....

I almost thought you had me there. But thankfully the term Zionist is a relatively recent one and wouldn't have been in use at the time the original Good Friday prayer was written. Does this answer sound a bit Modernist? It's just that I cannot image the Jєωιѕн people I know, and have known, being party to plots to enslave gentiles.

I agree with Frances in her assessment of her Moslem neighbours. I also think it important to recognise that people often have emotional attachments to their own cultures and histories, which do not necessarily equate with being ready and willing to destroy others. Let me give you an example.

I am of Irish descent and have lived in London for decades. During the 1980s, when the 'Troubles' were at their height and the IRA were planting bombs on the British mainland, myself and some other friends of Irish descent were discussing to what extent we supported the IRA. I remember thinking at the time that I would not actively help the IRA in one of their campaigns, but if an IRA man turned up at my door needing refuge, I would let him in. Does that mean I would plot to destroy the English people. Definitely not. It just shows that I was swayed by romantic attachments to history and the lyrics of Irish rebel songs.

Curious · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2014, 11:43:49 AM »

What about this argument to convince him that the Jєωs are corporally bad, and not just some of them:

They don't police themselves, but spend all their time policing gentiles. That Jєωs are not aware that Judaism teaches that all gentiles will be slaves of Jєωs indicates that the Jєωs cannot be trusted to police their own group. That most of them are not aware of the Jєωιѕн role in the Atlantic Slave Trade and the Bolshevik Revolution doesn't make me think they're naive, so much as incompetent at policing themselves.

Curious · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2014, 11:54:40 AM »

More on the point above:

If all my knowledge of history came from the Jєωs I would not know about the role they played in the Atlantic Slave Trade. Their role in that trade has been covered up in Hollywood movies, and mainstream books about slavery. It took reading The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jєωs (which uses Jєωιѕн sources meant for Jєωιѕн eyes) to figure this out. I would not know that the Bolshevik Revolution was really a Jєωιѕн revolution, and not a grassroots revolt of the Russian gentile peasantry.

So this is, I think, a good argument for being prejudiced towards all Jєωs. In that they simply don't police themselves, and so gentiles are necessary to be a true witness to their activity.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2014, 02:32:14 PM »

If a Jєω converted to Catholicism, that would be a cause for celebration. A Jєω who pretended to convert but then celebrated their Judaism would be a rancid soul who is a fake. No one likes a fake.

If a Jєω remained a Jєω and continued to deny Our Lord, that would be a sad event and the soul who continues to renounce Chrst is a rancid soul and, yes, a bad person.

PG · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2014, 03:32:52 PM »

The situation is delicate in our times with the secularization that affects them as well. The last thing that you want to do is drive secular Jєωs(conscious of it or not) back into the hands of full blooded Jєωs. So, be careful about labeling them, because their are degrees of practicality and morality concerning all of this. However, the catholic teaching is that we should limit our relations with all Jєωs. And, we should be very suspicious and cautious of them.

Someone mentioned Jєωs are more interested in feeding you than enslaving you. And, that is true. However, we should not eat their food, and that means their recipes. Read about modern Jєωιѕн cuisine and dietary practice. Their practices are very telling. They "play with their food". Haven't your parents ever told you, "don't play with your food". They even play with it to a point where it no longer qualifies as food, because, we live on "every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God".

The best way to understand the Jєωs in my opinion is that they ape Christ in how he overcame the devil in the three temptations in the desert.

If you have studied the Jєωs, you would recognize that three things stand out. These summarize/characterize their religion. 1 - their diet/food. 2 - the fact that they believe their flesh is divine. And 3 - they fall down in worship(meaning it is observable to all) of the devil(тαℓмυd contains many clearly cut diabolical passages) in order to possess the kingdoms of the world(enslave the world).

As for all these things. They are all bad. But, Christ conversed with the devil concerning the first two temptations. The last however, he did not converse with the devil. Christ commanded satan to "begone".

I believe that Christ's way of dealing with the devil can guide us in how to deal with Jєωs. He opposed the devil on all three temptations, but distinctly different for the third temptation(defining in a sense how to "anti"). And, it is not true that all Jєωs knowingly worship satan. However, those who study the тαℓмυd would know this, and therefore do. Those who study the тαℓмυd are their leaders, and we should respond to them in the same way that Christ responded to the devil. We command concerning them. We do not converse with them. We are "anti" them.

However, as for the fat smiley worldly Jєωs, who are enemies to a degree, we must love. As for the "bella youve"("the beautiful Jєω"), who are enemies to a degree, we must love. And, love does not mean "like".

I would say that the religious orthodox Jєωs represent those guilty of the third degree. If they have hanging side burns, that's them.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2014, 03:33:14 PM »

You don't really have to take all the trouble of reading history from sundry sources, you just need to learn a little Hebrew and visit a Jєωιѕн Book Store. Buy a couple of key Jєωιѕн books and read them yourselves (they are in both English and Hebrew, knowing the Hebrew is a good way to ensure that crucial English translations are correct). The hatred and disdain directed toward all other people is as obvious as can be.

And you don't need to really know Jєωιѕн folklore and their views on non-Jєωs, you just have to understand that the Jєωιѕн people hold the rejection of Our Lord as the keystone of their identity and their actions as a people are directed against Our Lord.

PG · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2014, 04:03:50 PM »

The passionate divide in israel between Jєωs who see themselves as people of a race(worldly = food/flesh) rather than as people of a religion(Jєωιѕн orthodox = spirit) is telling of the fact that not all Jєωs know about the spirit of judaism(the satanic).