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Re: How Catholics Must Live in this World
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2020, 02:35:39 PM »
The last three are pretty much complete and do not need much further elaboration, but the first does require further going into. It is very profound to me.
"People should stop using worldly principles to pick marriage partners". Then it details the worldly principles: (chemistry, physical attractiveness, wealth, success)

Those examples can also be unworldly, Catholic, and natural ( I excluded chemistry because I think it is a modern expression with no meaning) if they also include living the Catholic Faith. A person can be living the Catholic faith and be physically attractive to the eye of the beholder, and  be wealthy and successful. The key is that they do not live in any way by worldly principles. Many Catholic  monarchs, leaders, and men of business through history have been good Catholics and providers to the faithful, great gifts from God.
Agreed.  Let me restate
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- People should stop using  relying solely on worldly principles to pick marriage partners (lust, vanity, greed, and self-pride)


Re: How Catholics Must Live in this World
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2020, 03:09:58 PM »
The Blessed Mother instructs Sister Mary of Agreda on how to live in this world

From the book: Mystical City of God (1600 A.D.) by Sister Mary of Agreda, Volume II, The Incarnation, Page 226-228

http://www.themostholyrosary.com/mystical-city-vol-ii.pdf

279. Guard thyself, my dearest, against those living in darkness and the lovers of the world more than against fire; for the wisdom of the sons of this world is carnal and diabolical, and their ways lead to death. In order to walk the way of truth, even at the cost of the natural life, it is necessary to preserve the peace of the soul. Three dwelling-places I point out for thee to live in, from which thou must never intentionally come forth. If at any time the Lord should bid thee to relieve the necessities of thy fellow creatures, I desire that thou do not lose this refuge. Act as one who lives in a castle surrounded by enemies, and who perchance must go to the gate to transact necessary business. He acts with such wariness, that he will pay more attention to safe guard his retreat and shield himself, than to transact business with others, being always on the watch and on guard against danger. So must thou live, if thou wishest to live securely; for doubt not, that enemies more cruel and poisonous than asps and basilisks surround thee.

280. Thy habitations shall be the Divinity of the Most High, the humanity of my most holy Son, and thy own interior. In the Divinity thou must live like the pearl in its shell, or like the fish in the sea, allowing thy desires and affections to roam in its infinite spaces. The most holy humanity shall be the wall, which defends thee; and his bosom shall be the place of thy rest, and under his wings shalt thou find refreshment (Ps. 16, 8). Thy own interior shall afford thee peaceful delight through the testimony of a good conscience (Cor. 2, 12), and it will, if thou keep it pure, familiarize thee with the sweet and friendly intercourse of thy Spouse. In order that thou mayest be aided therein by retirement of the body, I desire that thou remain secluded in thy choir or in thy cell, leaving it only, when obedience or charity make it inevitable. I will tell thee a secret: there are demons, whom Lucifer has expressly ordered to watch for the religious, who come forth from their retirement, in order to beset them and engage them in battle and cause their fall. The demons do not easily go into the cells, because there they do not find the occasions afforded by conversations and the use of the senses, wherein they ordinarily capture and devour their prey like ravenous wolves. They are tormented by the retirement and recollection of religious, knowing that they are foiled in their attempts, as long as they cannot entice them into human discourse.

281. It is also certain that ordinarily the demons have no power over souls, unless they gain entrance by some venial or mortal fault. Mortal sin gives them a sort of direct right over those who commit it; while venial sin weakens the strength of the soul and invites their attacks. Imperfections diminish the merit and the progress of virtue, and encourage the enemy. Whenever the astute serpent notices that the soul bears with its own levity and forgets about its danger, it blinds it and seeks to instill its deadly poison. The enemy then entices the soul like a little heedless bird, until it falls into one of the many snares from which there seems to be no escape.

282. Admire then, my daughter, what thou hast learned by divine enlightenment and weep in deepest sorrow over the ruin of so many souls absorbed in such dangerous tepidity. They live in the obscurity of their passions and depraved inclinations, forgetful of the danger, unmoved by their losses, and heedless of their dealings. Instead of fearing and avoiding the occasions of evil, they encounter and seek for them in blind ignorance. In senseless fury they follow their pleasures, place no restraint on their passionate desires, and care not where they walk, even if to the most dangerous precipices. They are surrounded by innumerable enemies, who pursue them with diabolical treachery, unceasing vigilance, unquenchable wrath and restless diligence. What wonder then, that from such extremes, or rather from such unequal combat, irreparable defeats should arise among the mortals? And that, since the number of fools is infinite, the number of the reprobate should also be uncountable, and that the demon should be inflated by his triumphs in the perdition of so many men? May the eternal God preserve thee from such a misfortune; and do thou weep and deplore that of thy brethren, continually asking for their salvation as far as is possible.
Thanks for the link and the post with some of the Instructions from the Blessed Mother.  Those direct instructions from the BVM that we can read at the end of many of the chapters in this truly magnificent work are among the most inspiring and informative ever in all of Christian literature!


Re: How Catholics Must Live in this World
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2020, 04:37:40 PM »
Thanks for the link and the post with some of the Instructions from the Blessed Mother.  Those direct instructions from the BVM that we can read at the end of many of the chapters in this truly magnificent work are among the most inspiring and informative ever in all of Christian literature!
I read the 4 volume set, about 800+ pages per volume, shortly after I returned to the Church when I was like 42. I was single, and had the time, and the quiet to think. I had hurt my lower back and was semi-bed ridden for like 7 days. I read the entire set. I could not put it down. What I found was that any questions I had in a chapter, were always answered by the Blessed Mother at the end of every chapter. It was uncanny.

A cousin that was the most pivotal person in my conversion, early on gave me a book to read, it was Novus Ordo (he didn't know tradition even existed, I later re-paid him by showing him tradition). He asked me what I thought of the book he gave me to read, and I told him it went in one ear and out the other, that I retained nothing. He said that was because the author was inept, that that does not happen with a good author. Every word of Mystical City of God is profound and well retained. If I could only have one book in prison, this would be it, though it is 4 volumes, so not one book.