Author Topic: on women (Read 1025 times)

love alabama · « **on:** September 04, 2011, 07:55:05 PM »

This post from an FE poster has an interesting topic and I thought we could discuss this in this forum because its interesting

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In the old days( I am talking way back in the early 20th century) women did not drive cars that often I believe. It was the domain of men. Nowadays, it's about equal.

Was this a good trend or is driving an unfeminine thing for women?

Daegus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 04, 2011, 08:01:12 PM »

Driving is an issue that's really not relevant. I believe that women can drive if they want. Driving in and of itself isn't really masculine or feminine. It's just a way of getting from point A to B in most cases. Certain styles of driving can be masculine or feminine in some obscure ways yes, but in general no. At the same time, I believe that men are naturally going to be better drivers because of our natural traits such as quicker judgment and great spatial analysis.

At the same time, I don't think most of the women who drive today would even need to consider driving very often, if at all, if society hadn't collapsed into the current feminist paradigm that we're in.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** September 04, 2011, 08:06:02 PM »

Quote from: love alabama

This post from an FE poster has an interesting topic and I thought we could discuss this in this forum because its interesting

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In the old days( I am talking way back in the early 20th century) women did not drive cars that often I believe. It was the domain of men. Nowadays, it's about equal.

Was this a good trend or is driving an unfeminine thing for women?

If women are driving cars more often, for what reasons do they drive so much more?

Are those reasons generally good, or are they associated with the breakdown of traditional values (and communities) and the rise of contemporary values and consumerism/suburbia/urban sprawl/bubble economy?

Are there many disadvantages in discouraging women from driving?

Women do need transportation, they are capable of driving, but is it to the advantage of society customs have changed so much?

The answer is obviously no.

PereJoseph · « **Reply #3 on:** September 04, 2011, 08:27:02 PM »

Tele, that was avery lucid and excellent post. I have to partly disagree with Daegus on the matter of whether or not the question is relevant precisely for the reasons Tele mentions, though I think the rest of his post was sound. I know that, when my fiancée and I are both in a car, whether it is hers or mine, I always drive and we would both find it unnatural if the opposite were the case. I mentioned in the Multiracial thread that, in Québec as late as the 1970s, a man would be ridiculed by other men as a fif/moumoune ("homo/fag") if he were in the passenger seat while his wife or girlfriend was driving. I think the sentiment is based on an appreciation of a fundamental truth : the man is naturally designed to assume the patriarchal position as director and guide of those under his care and authority, the women of his family. Imagine if, in the old days, the women held the reins and whipped the horse while their husbands/fathers and sons/brothers were sitting peacefully behind them in the wagon talking. The image is absurd and offensive to the sensus catholicus; it opposes the intuitive grasp we have of the natural order. Now imagine if a painter were to convey a scene of St Joseph sitting on a donkey while the expectant Virgin Mother led on foot to Bethlehem -- he would rightly be condemned as deranged and impious. That being said, the question is not one of sin as such but of virtue and what consists with the natural way of things.

love alabama · « **Reply #4 on:** September 04, 2011, 09:27:32 PM »

Quote from: PereJoseph

Tele, that was avery lucid and excellent post. I have to partly disagree with Daegus on the matter of whether or not the question is relevant precisely for the reasons Tele mentions, though I think the rest of his post was sound. I know that, when my fiancée and I are both in a car, whether it is hers or mine, I always drive and we would both find it unnatural if the opposite were the case. I mentioned in the Multiracial thread that, in Québec as late as the 1970s, a man would be ridiculed by other men as a fif/moumoune ("homo/fag") if he were in the passenger seat while his wife or girlfriend was driving. I think the sentiment is based on an appreciation of a fundamental truth : the man is naturally designed to assume the patriarchal position as director and guide of those under his care and authority, the women of his family. Imagine if, in the old days, the women held the reins and whipped the horse while their husbands/fathers and sons/brothers were sitting peacefully behind them in the wagon talking. The image is absurd and offensive to the sensus catholicus; it opposes the intuitive grasp we have of the natural order. Now imagine if a painter were to convey a scene of St Joseph sitting on a donkey while the expectant Virgin Mother led on foot to Bethlehem -- he would rightly be condemned as deranged and impious. That being said, the question is not one of sin as such but of virtue and what consists with the natural way of things.

basically the Natural order of things?

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 05, 2011, 07:58:53 AM »

Women drivers....no survivors. :wink:

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2011, 11:09:55 AM »

I think the suitability of women for driving is proportional to their intelligence, even temperament, ability to concentrate, and rationality.

In other words, some women can be great drivers because they have all these traits in abundance. I won't say ALL women, but some women.

Just like some women can have a rational discussion (as in, based on principles, not getting distracted by individuals, etc.) without letting emotions get in the way at all. I wouldn't say "pick a woman out of a crowd, and you'll probably find one of these", but they are out there.

I would also like to point out that male bad drivers are bad drivers for different reasons than female bad drivers. Like with anything else, the strengths and weaknesses are different.