Author Topic: Ted (2012) (Read 4592 times)

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #45 on:** August 02, 2012, 05:47:06 PM »

Quote from: Thorn

lefebvre fan, read his posts to get his drift. Trad didn't have a problem with that part of my statement. I never said that the Passion was bad either. It just didn't move ME. If you liked it, fine with me.

Fair enough. Just out of curiosity, though, if you don't mine me asking: how old are you? I ask because, as someone who came to Tradition when I was about his age (18-19), I know from experience that at that time, you're still trying to figure stuff out. (Heck, I'm still trying to figure stuff out!) Plus, you've got peer pressure and raging hormones to contend with. It's very different from finding Tradition when you're older. At that age, you tend to be quite naive (again, I'm still pretty naive), and you don't have the advantage of life experience that someone older has. It might be good to be a bit more forgiving of such a person, no?

I'm not saying that we have to break out the guitars and start singing Kumbayah, but don't you think you're being a bit harsh on the poor fellow?

Thorn · « **Reply #46 on:** August 02, 2012, 09:09:46 PM »

lefebvre fan, thanks for your kind response. I'm as old as dirt. I could be Trad's grandmother. As far as 'finding tradition' I've always been a trad - even before it was a term so I never 'found ' it. It just was never lost to me. I left the NO in the early 70's & never looked back. My story is on the thread 'Changes' & continued in the Intros so shan't repeat it here. How old are you?

I put up with Trad all this time without laying into him. The Ted thread was the last straw. He's this young guy who seems to think he's now an expert. Maybe I was too harsh but he seemed so obdurate in seeing that you must not put filth in your mind that I needed to hit him over the head, so to speak, to wake him up.
His excuse is that he hears it at work all the time. I too worked in the world back in the stone age when it wasn't quite as bad but it was still bad. I never joined in & at breaktime would go off by myself or talk with the least offensive ones. Once I was asked if I was a narc!!! Another place & time I was asked if I had a man since I never joined in with their sex chats. Just before I left I told them about The Man I followed. After they picked their chins up off the floor, they cooled it with the filthy talk - at least around me & I had peace for the rest of the time. I always did my work well, never took off 'sick' & was cheerful & friendly to all. I bet they remember me to this day. Isn't that what we as Catholics & soldiers of Christ MUST do? What Trad is doing by going to these bad movies thinking he can 'handle it' is very dangerous. Excusing it by saying it's for critical examination is ridicuous. Someone had to tell him the truth. Sometimes that truth is harsh in this fluffy world.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2012, 08:51:52 AM »

Well Thorn revolution never comes from the old but always the young, and we 'conservatives' need to be revolutionaries in this sick world. I said that this movie Ted was indeed sick and sinful. As for the 'I know more than you because I'm older' card I see no moral superiority of generations here. The 'Greatest Generation' got us into that mess called World War II, the reason the West is in decline these days, the baby boomers in sex, drugs, riots, rock n' roll and women's liberation, etc.

As I said it was a horrible movie and Catholics should not see it.

And l_f fan I thank you for your defense but I do see some merit in what Thorn is saying, especially about the movies. Hollywood is indeed sick and vile.

Belloc · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2012, 08:55:03 AM »

anyone notice the mostly poor quality of films coming out that either are remakes or the usuall:
-gαy character
-foreigner, usually, a Brit.
-wimply, indecisive men
-know it all women

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2012, 08:56:48 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

anyone notice the mostly poor quality of films coming out that either are remakes or the usuall:
-gαy character
-foreigner, usually, a Brit.
-wimply, indecisive men
-know it all women

All part of the Frankfurt School and Hollywood ideology.

It is supposed to make minorities, women, and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs as 'cool' or 'wise' while the normal white male is evil.

Thorn · « **Reply #50 on:** August 03, 2012, 12:47:11 PM »

Guy, I never had anything to do with any of that stuff of the GG. In the 60's I was working & looked upon the hippies as freaks of nature. I'm part of a small army striving to preserve tradition & teach the young - most of whom are pig-headed or oblivious & clueless. I taught my children & they are all knowledgeable about what's happening. You seem to consider yourself a 'revolutionary' but you're going about it all the wrong way. I still say you need to grow up & stop spouting off & absolutely swear off putting filth in your mind. Christ demands it. Be an example to others by the way you live & talk so that they know what a real Christian is - one who doesn't partake of the ways of the world or go to & talk about disgusting movies. We're to be in the world but not of this world. Quite a burden, I know.
And if you write 'Frankfurt School' one more time I'm going to puke on this keyboard.

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #51 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:49:55 PM »

Quote from: Thorn

lefebvre fan, thanks for your kind response. I'm as old as dirt. I could be Trad's grandmother. As far as 'finding tradition' I've always been a trad - even before it was a term so I never 'found ' it. It just was never lost to me. I left the NO in the early 70's & never looked back. My story is on the thread 'Changes' & continued in the Intros so shan't repeat it here. How old are you?

I put up with Trad all this time without laying into him. The Ted thread was the last straw. He's this young guy who seems to think he's now an expert. Maybe I was too harsh but he seemed so obdurate in seeing that you must not put filth in your mind that I needed to hit him over the head, so to speak, to wake him up.
His excuse is that he hears it at work all the time. I too worked in the world back in the stone age when it wasn't quite as bad but it was still bad. I never joined in & at breaktime would go off by myself or talk with the least offensive ones. Once I was asked if I was a narc!!! Another place & time I was asked if I had a man since I never joined in with their sex chats. Just before I left I told them about The Man I followed. After they picked their chins up off the floor, they cooled it with the filthy talk - at least around me & I had peace for the rest of the time. I always did my work well, never took off 'sick' & was cheerful & friendly to all. I bet they remember me to this day. Isn't that what we as Catholics & soldiers of Christ MUST do? What Trad is doing by going to these bad movies thinking he can 'handle it' is very dangerous. Excusing it by saying it's for critical examination is ridicuous. Someone had to tell him the truth. Sometimes that truth is harsh in this fluffy world.

OK, I actually figured that you were probably an oldie who had resisted the changes in the Church way back when, but I didn't want to say anything lest I mistake someone's age and end up offending them. I'm glad you're here, perhaps you can knock some sense into us younger ones!

Certainly, your points are valid, there's no arguing with that. I just thought that maybe you were being a bit harsh on him. But perhaps you're right, perhaps we all need a swift kick in the pants sometimes, lol.

As for my age, just click on my name and you'll see my birthdate. (Just to save you time, I'll be 26 in 3 days).

Belloc · « **Reply #52 on:** August 03, 2012, 01:58:42 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: Belloc
anyone notice the mostly poor quality of films coming out that either are remakes or the usuall:
-gαy character
-foreigner, usually, a Brit.
-wimply, indecisive men
-know it all women

All part of the Frankfurt School and Hollywood ideology.

It is supposed to make minorities, women, and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs as 'cool' or 'wise' while the normal white male is evil.

true, the homo-pushing is getting worse. Read as achild the "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Network" book and notice its all coming true and more and more daily.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:06:06 PM »

Quote from: Thorn

Guy, I never had anything to do with any of that stuff of the GG. In the 60's I was working & looked upon the hippies as freaks of nature. I'm part of a small army striving to preserve tradition & teach the young - most of whom are pig-headed or oblivious & clueless. I taught my children & they are all knowledgeable about what's happening. You seem to consider yourself a 'revolutionary' but you're going about it all the wrong way. I still say you need to grow up & stop spouting off & absolutely swear off putting filth in your mind. Christ demands it. Be an example to others by the way you live & talk so that they know what a real Christian is - one who doesn't partake of the ways of the world or go to & talk about disgusting movies. We're to be in the world but not of this world. Quite a burden, I know.
And if you write 'Frankfurt School' one more time I'm going to puke on this keyboard.

Go ahead then, I just said the fact that the Frankfurt School is Jєωιѕн and Marxist. And 'pig-headed' could be applied to the older folks as well, who think they know everything because they have been around longer. Never has a change in society happened through older people.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #54 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:32:36 PM »

Quote from: Thorn

I'm part of a small army striving to preserve tradition & teach the young - most of whom are pig-headed or oblivious & clueless.

This is a key point. Traditional Catholics have been under siege for fifty years. Three generations of Catholics under the age of 50 have no experience of life in a normal, traditional diocesan parish setting. Most people under the age of 50 don't even know what the traditional Faith is. The Novus Ordo is in chaos and implosion and Trads have been forced into enclaves to hang on to what we can. Normal is gone and we aren't getting it back until Christ restores the Church.

Thorn · « **Reply #55 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:44:00 PM »

You just won't quit even when you're ahead, will you, Guy?
You're completely wrong again!!! I've never thought or portrayed myself as knowing everything. Have you ever seen me in hard core discussions here? NO, because I know I don't know everything or even enough to contribute.

The NO came about because of the young???!!! See what I mean? You don't know what you're posting half the time. You really think your rantings are going to change society? You need a lesson is humility & respect.
You need to LIVE the Christian life first , & then maybe you can talk.

And you didn't JUST say about the Frankfurt School. You're CONSTANTLY putting it in almost all you posts. Enuf already.

Thorn · « **Reply #56 on:** August 03, 2012, 03:54:18 PM »

You are so right, catherineofsiena! I feel so sad for the youth of today who have no idea what we had & lost. No man can bring back the church at this point. It's going to take God himself as in the days of Noah.
Half my life I took the church for granted, & now we are left with this mess. Just a deep sadness.