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Offline LightOfBethlehem3

Re: Occult Subversion of Traditional Catholicism
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2026, 03:40:22 PM »
Quote from: russianpropagandapurveyor on May 07, 2026, 03:08:31 PM
Thank you. Is good explanation. especially underline. Like word Re-Enchantment movement. Do you have link to article or book or video so can learn more?
I would say the most famous and most beginner are I Might Believe in Fairies, More Christ and Jonathan Pageau and his brother (disclaimer the last ones are Eastern Orthodox it shouldn't be a big problem but I don't know how solid you are)
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Re: Occult Subversion of Traditional Catholicism
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2026, 06:50:31 PM »
Quote from: LightOfBethlehem3 on May 07, 2026, 03:40:22 PM
I would say the most famous and most beginner are I Might Believe in Fairies, More Christ and Jonathan Pageau and his brother (disclaimer the last ones are Eastern Orthodox it shouldn't be a big problem but I don't know how solid you are)
Thank you for recommendation. Decided start by listening to episode of More Christ. Choose episode because recognize guest speaker. is very interesting listen about symbol in movie. Intend to listen more episode.



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Offline Yeti

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Re: Occult Subversion of Traditional Catholicism
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 08:54:06 AM »
Quote from: LightOfBethlehem3 on May 07, 2026, 03:28:08 PM
As a famous medieval collection of archetypes and illustrations to ponder on or write about.
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Okay. Could you please give a little better answer than that?
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Offline Meg

Re: Occult Subversion of Traditional Catholicism
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 10:26:40 AM »
Quote from: OSanctissimus on May 05, 2026, 09:27:12 AM
https://bigmodernism.substack.com/p/defenders-of-occultic-writing-in?utm_source=publication-search


Within churches, a groundswell of folks interested in the liturgy -- but. for. the. wrong. reasons. 

Tradcats need to be aware that not everyone who is interested in tradition or the Mass of the Ages does so out of love for Jesus.

I am not saying that the people mentioned in this article are occultists (I do not think the author is saying this either?)    I am saying that there are alarming trends and that it is important to be discerning, yes, even with traditionalism.

I recall back when the old (and now long-defunct) Angelqueen trad forum had a few trads who were into occultism. I think they've been around for quite awhile. They seem to want to find a way to justify the blending of occultism and traditional Catholicism. And they will quote from saints in order to prove their point. 

The question I have is: why do they have a need to do this? Isn't Our Lord and His Church enough for them? Apparently not. It's like a sort of gnosticism, where personal experiences must be gained in order to believe, such as the charismatics believe. Or, some of the Catholic occultists have restless minds, and are bored with Catholicism as it is, and they are forever in search mode for hidden truth. Why not just use the profound and relatively simple methods that the Church has always provided in order to gain holiness and sanctity, and growing in love for Our Lord? 
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Offline LightOfBethlehem3

Re: Occult Subversion of Traditional Catholicism
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 11:22:01 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on Yesterday at 08:54:06 AM
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Okay. Could you please give a little better answer than that?
Sure. The Tarot deck has a series of figures, usually called the Major Arcana. They also have associated art. These figures are very basic patterns / archetypes present in the world, a King, the Devil, Lovers, the Sun, etc. People analyze these archetypes along with the art, for example, what did the medieval christians who invented the Tarot deck mean by this image? 


  
It is analogous to meditating on the Litany of the Blessed Virgin, which contains rich images to ponder on (Seat of Wisdom, House of Gold, etc.). Or for that matter meditating on different animals (How do deer represent Jesus, Our Lady, the Church or me. What can I learn from deer?).
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