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Offline Peter15and1

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Obsession with Number of Children
« on: April 10, 2017, 02:24:41 PM »
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  • There is a new family at the chapel I attend.  From what I understand, they have been married about 15 years, and have four children.  They both appear to be about 40 years old.  They've only been attending our chapel for a month or so, so I haven't had a chance to get to know them very well, but they appear to been good Catholics.  I have no reason to believe otherwise.

    However, some long-standing members of the chapel have voiced concerns about these newcomers, saying that if they have been married for 15 years and following the Church's teachings, they should have more than four children.  To me, this kind of talk is beyond the pale; lay people in the pews have no business policing the number of children other people have, particularly when they have no real evidence they are committing any kind of sin.  These pew-police (many of whom are unmarried, by the way), to me, seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with the number of children other people have, and want nothing more than to find fault in other's behavior.  I'm worried this behavior may drive this poor family away from the chapel.  What should I so, if anything?  Has anyone else encountered this type of thing?


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    Re: Obsession with Number of Children
    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2017, 03:09:41 PM »
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  • I know a family in our chapel who have been married for 16 years.  They have 5 boys.  

    They've also had 11 miscarriages.

    The type of people you describe help the type of people I describe grow in charity, patience and humility. 

    Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. - Nicene Creed


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    Re: Obsession with Number of Children
    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 03:17:00 PM »
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  • Whenever the opportunity arises make them feel welcome.
    There could be many reasons for their having 4 children
    NONE OF WHICH ARE ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
    If the busybodies voice anything about it in your presence, I
    hope you will let them know charitably that they have no
    authority to judge.
    If it happens again you might not have to be so charitable.
    We are called to instruct the ignorant (perhaps also the rude
    and malicious).
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Obsession with Number of Children
    « Reply #3 on: April 10, 2017, 04:28:28 PM »
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  •   These pew-police (many of whom are unmarried, by the way), to me, seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with the number of children other people have, and want nothing more than to find fault in other's behavior.  I'm worried this behavior may drive this poor family away from the chapel.  What should I so, if anything?  Has anyone else encountered this type of thing?
    Yes, I've seen it and yes it will drive those people away from the chapel.
    At least that is how it went down in the chapel I was in.

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    Re: Obsession with Number of Children
    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2017, 04:58:51 PM »
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  • It is very unhealthy (and frankly un-Catholic, for that matter) and unnecessary. None of their business.

    They are at that chapel to witness the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass where there is Christ in all His Glory, receive sound Catholic instruction and the Sacraments and nothing more. 

    They should leave all else at the door. There is a saying in the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom: "Let us now set aside all earthly cares so we can receive the King of All."
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    Re: Obsession with Number of Children
    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 06:27:46 PM »
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  • The priest should get seriously involved with this, and give a sermon to talk about charity & thinking the best of others, and correct those who are bing busybodies about other people.
    "there can be no holiness where there is disagreement with the pope" - Pope St. Pius X

    Today, only Catholics holding the sedevacantist position are free from the anguish entailed by this truth.