CathMomof7 said:It can not be argued that the Novus Ordo uses proper form and matter,
Huh? Of course it can, and has been argued [ against ] over and over again by many people. Remember that in the Novus Ordo the words of consecration for the wine have been changed. The correct way is:
This is the Chalice of My Blood of the New and Eternal Testament: the Mystery of Faith: which shall be shed for you, and for many to the remission of sins.
In the Novus Ordo they have the gall to change the words of Christ Himself, saying "for you and for all" instead of "for you and for many."
This is a violation of form. It clearly changes the sense of the consecration to suggest universal salvation, and thus is most likely invalid. No one can really say for sure, but at any rate, it's wrong.
There is also the problem that they've changed the Rite of Consecration, and if bishops are invalid, then the priests they "ordain" are also invalid... That is why I don't believe Christ is usually confected in the Eucharist in the Novus Ordo. The priest would have to have been ordained before a certain point. And even then, he'd be using this most-likely-invalid form.
Moreover -- back to Adrienne -- you shouldn't go for the same reason you shouldn't go to a Protestant service, because even to sit there looks like giving some kind of approval to this betrayal of the Church. Meaning that you would be giving scandal by attending.
Not everyone would agree with me there, and of course it depends on your own convictions. It is true we have no formal instructions from Rome yet, no Pope telling us how to behave or what to do. But that is because Rome has been taken over, as I would like to point out for the legalists. Like it or not we have to make some decisions ourselves here, hopefully guided by the Holy Ghost. Waiting for guidance from this group in Rome is like waiting for a piranha to decide to stop eating people and to take up quilt-sewing. It's illogical to the extreme. Even the SSPX doesn't really listen to anything Ratzinger says, no one is really guided by this man, nor could they be, because he is incoherent.