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Hazteoir against Coca Colas immorality
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2013, 05:01:30 PM »
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I just can't see most people going back to small farms


No one is talking about that, although it could certainly become popular for a broad swathe of people to supplement their food supply by producing some on their own.

Farming and homesteading should be a reasonable way to make a living, so that this situation of farmers "dying out" would not be happening.

If so-called market forces lead to the destruction of society (low birth rates, catastrophic immigration, gradual collapse of rural life) then they must be checked by intervention.


Hazteoir against Coca Colas immorality
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 05:31:53 PM »
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Farming and homesteading should be a reasonable way to make a living, so that this situation of farmers "dying out" would not be happening.


It is possible to earn a living in this manner, if one has some resources and a very strong work ethic, even at a small scale.  Acquiring land is a separate (albeit critical) issue.  

Based upon my observations, it's not really the lack of income keeping most people from farming.  It's the workload and lifestyle.  These progeny of farmers could go back to their parents' farm to work, but they choose not to, even when the parents desire it.  It's not the sort of lifestyle they want for themselves.  Farming does not quite mesh with a 9-5 and weekends off mentality.  It's also inherently risky.  Crop failure and animal health issues aren't uncommon.  Just look at what the drought last year accomplished.  Small square hay bales (poor quality grass!) were going for $10-20/bale.  (Normally worth $3, generously.)  I know several cattle and sheep farmers that had to majorly downsize because they couldn't afford the cost of feeding over the winter.  These are aspects that cannot be controlled and play a larger role.  They really have nothing to do with the economy or politics.  These are things that have been struggled with since man first milked a ewe or pushed a plow into the ground.  

At any rate, the entire situation is complicated and there are a number of factors involved.  These are just several of them.


Hazteoir against Coca Colas immorality
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 05:40:04 PM »
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It's also inherently risky.  Crop failure and animal health issues aren't uncommon.  Just look at what the drought last year accomplished.  Small square hay bales (poor quality grass!) were going for $10-20/bale.  (Normally worth $3, generously.)  I know several cattle and sheep farmers that had to majorly downsize because they couldn't afford the cost of feeding over the winter.  These are aspects that cannot be controlled and play a larger role.  They really have nothing to do with the economy or politics.  These are things that have been struggled with since man first milked a ewe or pushed a plow into the ground.  


Yes, it's not an economically secure profession.  It's not that there aren't enough country boys to farm the land.  It's that they can't afford the land and they haven't the income levels to manage the risk.

We're not talking about going back in history.  We're talking about preserving what little is left.

Hazteoir against Coca Colas immorality
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2013, 02:34:10 AM »
Here is more on the effects on Coca Cola's support of immorality;
Coca-Cola saw its stock value drop yesterday as the boycott against the soft-drink giant has spread across Spain and into Latin America over statements by its CEO in Spain, Marcos De Quinto.

In what has been labeled a direct attack on Christians, De Quinto, president of Coca-Cola Spain, hurled insults at life and family defense groups in response to a campaign by the religious liberty organization HazteOir.org to fight a controversial Spanish reality show.

During the program “Summer Camp,” a version of “Survivor,” one of the female contestants was made to strip to her underwear and jump into a pool of melted chocolate, while the host invited her fellow contestants to lick the chocolate off of her.

HazteOir.org successfully convinced several companies – including McDonald's and Burger King – to withdraw their ads from the show. However, Coca-Cola declined to pull its ads, and De Quinto responded to those who objected to the sponsorship by calling them “fanatics” and “intolerant,” and accusing them of launching a “guerrilla-style” attack against Coca-Cola.

“May God spare us from groups like ‘The Guardians of the Faith,’ who want to tell us what TV shows to watch, what books and newspapers to read, what party to vote for,” De Quinto said on Twitter.

He also used the social media site to tell HazteOir.org president, Ignacio Arsuaga, “If having to think like you is the price I have to pay for you to keep drinking Coca-Cola, I prefer you don’t drink it.”

The comments sparked outcry in the Spanish-speaking world, and the Twitter hashtag #BoikotCocacola became a trending topic in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Panama, as hundreds of Twitter users announced their decision to stop buying the products until De Quinto retracts his statements.

In an article yesterday for the website DailyFinance.com, Wall Street analyst Amanda Alix noted that “Coca-Cola has fallen into the red today, a somewhat surprising follow-up to its performance yesterday.”

Noting the possibility of a widespread boycott, she said that De Quito’s Twitter response will likely “only inflame the anti-Coke sentiment even further.”

Ben Bouckley of BeverageDaily.com said the growth of the boycott against Coca-Cola in the Spanish-speaking world is clearly “bad news for Coca-Cola.”

 Coca-Cola spokesman told Bouckley that “there has been a misunderstanding of Mr. De Quinto's earlier statements on Twitter. As one of the world's most inclusive brands, Coca-Cola has a long established reputation of respect for all people – regardless of race, religion or gender.”

However, HazteOir.org president Ignacio Arsuaga said his organization is considering filing a lawsuit over the Twitter comments. De Quinto accused Arsuaga of belonging to a “mafia sect” made up of “criminals” who “hack into websites” and are “outside the law.” Hazteoir.org denied that it has engaged in criminal actions.

Arsuaga told CNA that the group has “been initially told that there are sufficient grounds for suing for slander and libel” and added that HazteOir.org is “still looking over the messages Marcos De Quinto posted on Twitter.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/coca-cola-stock-drops-as-boycott-spreads-in-latin-america/

Hazteoir against Coca Colas immorality
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2013, 08:50:26 PM »
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(we Finns like to call it sisu)  


I gave you a thumbs up for finding a way to use the word sisu on a trad forum!

Luke