I think I'm with Parents for truth on this one..I just can't see myself attending a novus order mass. is there anything from popes supporting the attend but don't participate stance? here's some interesting quotes..let me know your thoughts
Pope Pius IX’s encyclical, Graves ac diuturnae. Speaking of the “Old Catholic” heretics and schismatics, Pius IX says:
Pope Pius IX, Graves ac diuturnae (# 4), March 23, 1875: “They [the faithful] should totally shun their religious celebrations, their buildings, and their chairs of pestilence which they have with impunity established to transmit the sacred teachings. They should shun their writings and all contact with them. They should not have any dealings or meetings with usurping priests and apostates from the faith who dare to exercise the duties of an ecclesiastical minister without possessing a legitimate mission or any jurisdiction.”
Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos #9, Jan. 6, 1928: “Everyone knows that John himself, the Apostle of love, who seems to reveal in his Gospel the secrets of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and who never ceased to impress on the memories of his followers the new commandment ‘Love one another,’ altogether forbade any intercourse with those who professed a mutilated and corrupt form of Christ’s teaching: ‘If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him: God speed you’ (II John 10).”
This is more about respecting the dead and having an ordered relationship with your family than it is about respecting the novus ordo liturgy. Furthermore, according to the conciliar church, the doctrine has not changed, only the pastoral mission and the liturgy.
Actually the doctrine has changed, the conciliar or Vatican 2 church professes beliefs contrary to the sacred dogmas- i.e. non catholics can receive communion, catholics should pray with protestants, catholics and muslims worship the same God, etc. etc.
The comparison between the Vatican 2 sect and the Old Catholic Sect is very accurate. Pius IX makes it VERY CLEAR to avoid priests who hold no authority, hold no offices in the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and are wolves leading people to hell which the Novus Ordo does. Again, I will provide this excellent quote:
Pope Pius IX, Graves ac diuturnae (# 4), March 23, 1875: “They [the faithful] should totally shun their religious celebrations, their buildings, and their chairs of pestilence which they have with impunity established to transmit the sacred teachings. They should shun their writings and all contact with them. They should not have any dealings or meetings with usurping priests and apostates from the faith who dare to exercise the duties of an ecclesiastical minister without possessing a legitimate mission or any jurisdiction.”
Which churches have jurisdiction these days Conquistador and where do they get the jurisdiction from? Can we attend Byzantine churches? SSPX? FSSP? Which ones have jurisdiction?
All of the groups you mentioned have problems, and are heretical, so no.
V2 byaznitne/FSSP- They are in the Vatican 2 church. Enough said
SSPX- Refuse to accept the Church's teaching that a manifest heretic cannot be pope (cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio, Paul IV ) and have decided to adopt a schismatic position where they recognize the actual "pope" leading a modernist "conciliar" church which is also THE Catholic Church at the same time? Confused? I am.
More importantly, as Gooch clearly demonstrated, they believe souls can be saved in other religions by implicit desire. This is heresy. Its a complete perversion of Pius IX. On top of that, they also preach birth control through NFP. Other problems too.