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Newman, now a Doctor of the Catholic Church
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  • Newman, new co-patron of Catholic schools

    In his homily, Leo XIV justified the date of this proclamation by recalling that November 1 marks the conclusion of the Jubilee of the World of Education this year. “Newman's imposing cultural and spiritual stature will serve as an inspiration to new generations with hearts thirsting for the infinite,” said the pontiff, also naming the British doctor co-patron of Catholic schools, alongside St. Thomas Aquinas.


    How can this be? Newman, St Thomas Aquinas and St Augustine are now joined together as teachers of theology in the Catholic Church. How can the Lord allow contradicting Doctors in His Church?

    ‘That the world began to exist is an object of faith, but not of demonstration or science.’ (St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologiae I.46.2)

    'No, not though I found probable reasons for thinking the first chapters of Genesis were not of an economical character, that there was a pre-Adamite race of rational animals, or that we are now 20,000 years from Noah. For that past controversy and its issue have taught me beyond all mistake, that men of the greatest theological knowledge may firmly believe that scientific conclusions are contrary to the Word of God, when they are not so, and pronounce that to be heresy which is truth. It has taught me, that Scripture is not inspired to convey mere secular knowledge, whether about the heaven or the Earth, or the race of man; and that I need not fear for Revelation whatever truths may be brought to light by means of observation and experience out of the world of phenomena which environs us. And I seem to myself here to be speaking under the protection and sanction of the [1835] Sacred Congregation of the Index itself, which has since the time of Galileo prescribed to itself a line of action, indication of its fearlessness of any results which may happen to religion from physical sciences…’--- Fr John Henry Newman, 1861.

    Here we have two Doctors who adhere to the supernatural dogma of Creation, and another who teaches a natural one long condemned as containing multiple heresies. God help your Church from such contradictions.

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    Re: Newman, now a Doctor of the Catholic Church
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 11:20:30 AM »
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  • Here we have two Doctors who adhere to the supernatural dogma of Creation, and another who teaches a natural one long condemned as containing multiple heresies. God help your Church from such contradictions.
    Here’s the problem. It’s not “your” Church. It’s THE CHURCH. Each church building, each parish is a separate entity with its own creed, its own morals, its own practices, connected only by “synodal” association.  IOW, Protestant. 
    If this describes “your Church,” you need to leave and join the Catholic Church.  


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    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 12:04:04 PM »
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  • Here’s the problem. It’s not “your” Church. It’s THE CHURCH. Each church building, each parish is a separate entity with its own creed, its own morals, its own practices, connected only by “synodal” association.  IOW, Protestant.
    If this describes “your Church,” you need to leave and join the Catholic Church. 
    You're right...it's not "your Church"....it's "Your Church"  meaning God's Church.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Newman, now a Doctor of the Catholic Church
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 12:12:50 PM »
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  • Here’s the problem. It’s not “your” Church. It’s THE CHURCH. Each church building, each parish is a separate entity with its own creed, its own morals, its own practices, connected only by “synodal” association.  IOW, Protestant.
    If this describes “your Church,” you need to leave and join the Catholic Church. 

    If by “your” he means the Conciliar Church, then he is not wrong. Cardinal Newman, though liberal in tendency, still belonged to Eternal Rome. The Conciliar Church, which later declared him a “doctor,” came into existence only at Vatican II, that false council which produced the false church. The post Conciliar modernist popes, up to and including Pope Leo XIV, occupy the offices of the Catholic Church yet simultaneously preside over what Father Hesse rightly called “that stupid club,” a man made ecuмenical fabrication that falsely calls itself the Church. The Conciliar Church is entirely distinct from the Catholic Church, distinct because they are not the same. One is the spotless Bride of Christ founded by Our Lord, and the other is a counterfeit born of modernism, erected upon the wreckage caused by those who have betrayed the true Faith.

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    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 12:15:12 PM »
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  • You're right...it's not "your Church"....it's "Your Church"  meaning God's Church.
    My bet, too.