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Re: New NFP booklet?
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2017, 10:14:39 AM »
Correct, Bellator.  Pius XII has had to answer for his NFP revolution.

Re: New NFP booklet?
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2017, 10:15:02 AM »
It's a good thing the parents of St. Catherine of Siena were not brought under the influence of some pro-NFP advocate.

Catherine was born on 3-25-1347 to Lapa Piagenti and Giacomo di Benincasa Lapa was about forty years old when she gave premature birth to twin daughters Catherine and Giovanna. She had already borne 22 children, but half of them had died. Giovanna was handed over to a wet-nurse and died soon after. Catherine was nursed by her mother and developed into a healthy child. She was two years old when Lapa had her 25th child, another daughter named Giovanna.


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Re: New NFP booklet?
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2017, 10:40:02 AM »
Right.  Was just trying to use a term other than 'primary end'.  I agree wholeheartedly with you on this topic.

I know.   I wasn't trying to argue with you.  I just keyed on the "Openness to Life" terminology that the Novus Ordo has become so fond of.

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Re: New NFP booklet?
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2017, 11:42:51 AM »
This is a great anti-NFP article by MHFM
It also answers a lot of the objections raised by its proponents.

While I do not agree with them on a lot of things, this was an excellent video as well:


Re: New NFP booklet?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2017, 01:50:31 PM »
I have been away from this forum for awhile, just out here lurking.

I am posting today, because a great source of sadness for me right now, at 50, is that, while a NO Catholic, my husband and I practiced NFP.  Before converting to Catholicism, we used other birth control methods. 

We have 7 children and I love them all dearly, but I wonder so many times how many are not here because of our practice of NFP.  

Once I decided that I wasn't going to do it anymore, my children started coming around 2 years apart.  I guess I can reasonably assume that my body worked that way.  But we didn't throw NFP away until after our 4th child was born...and she was born primarily because I felt unhappy doing all the checking and charting.

I did lose one child in a miscarriage, but before I converted to NO Catholicism.

Would we have had 9 or 10 children?  More?  

In those days of NO, I knew many women who gave up the NFP and just went to using pills or patches.  They reasoned it was all the same and not as gross.

I knew what we were doing when we were doing it.  And I felt unloved, because my husband only wanted me when I couldn't conceive.  

So I'm not going to argue about what constitutes grave reason or if it even exists.  I never had any health problems associated with pregnancy.  We did suffer the loss of a job or two during those years, but we always managed financially.  And eventually we did buy a 12 passenger van, but I never got to fill it up because I was too old.  It fit the 9 of us and our dog comfortably, but there was always room for one or two more.

Forgive me for being overly emotional.  I guess I mention it because sometimes one of the spouses in the NFP couple often feels guilty or uncertain, but they are often told they are just being scrupulous, like I was told.  

I'm glad we rejected it, but when a woman is 36 she doesn't really have that many child bearing years left. I was fortunate to have 3 more children, but a great many are not that blessed.