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Needing a break from maternity leave?!
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 08:48:17 PM »
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  • Thanks Roman.

    It brings me back to high school homecoming when I suggested we invite the girl with down syndrome to cheer with us for the football game instead of sitting on the sidelines.

    I got the nastiest notes in my locker for weeks.
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    « Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 08:59:35 PM »
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    Thanks Roman.

    It brings me back to high school homecoming when I suggested we invite the girl with down syndrome to cheer with us for the football game instead of sitting on the sidelines.

    I got the nastiest notes in my locker for weeks.
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    That is quite alright.  So sorry to hear of your suffering coming from the good you did.  A good priest once told me: "You may have to suffer in this life for your sins, but you may have to suffer for someone elses sins too."  I finally figured out what was meant by uniting our sufferings with Our Lord.  A 'lurking, jealous person is behind it- I'd bet on it and yes, I'm a 'gambling man', in one sense.


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    « Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 09:01:13 PM »
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    So for the 5 people who gave me a thumbs down, I have an honest question. Is babysitting almost always immoral?


    The priest had suggested I look into more babysitting to replace waitress work. Most prospective clients would be looking for sitters to get away from the kids, drink etc. Or maybe they need one to work an unnecessary second job.  Am I always enabling?


    PW I don't think anyone said or implied it's immoral to babysit.  The way I read it was IF we know the parent(s) are going to be doing something that as Catholics we shouldn't help them along in, then perhaps we would refrain.

    Like s2srea said, it's best you talk with your priest confessor about these types of matters. He is the one qualified to judge individual circuмstances, etc and give you the best counsel on the matter.

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    « Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 09:12:05 PM »
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  • Penitent Woman,

    I wouldn't get too worked up over this.  Always do your best to give people the benefit of the doubt and to try to understand their weaknesses.  

    Every chance you get, compliment her on her beautiful newborn and encourage her to become a Catholic.  If she's already one, encourage her to attend a Traditional Chapel with you.  That way the two of you can back each other up.

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    « Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 09:34:25 PM »
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  • PW you really have done nothing bad.  Who could resist the opportunity to hold a teeny baby for a couple of hours and be a good friend.  I know I would not have been able to say no.

     And if her husband's a cop, I am sure the wee one will make him glad he's out there on the job!  Some men are great with babies.



     



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    « Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 10:41:16 PM »
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    A good priest once told me: "You may have to suffer in this life for your sins, but you may have to suffer for someone elses sins too."  I finally figured out what was meant by uniting our sufferings with Our Lord.  A 'lurking, jealous person is behind it- I'd bet on it and yes, I'm a 'gambling man', in one sense.


    Our Blessed Lord Himself tells us we must guard against rash judgments.  Seems I recall on another thread the same 'lurking jealous person' accusation and some posters  offered kindly fraternal correction.  Unless we have proof we are not to cast blame or fault.  And even with specific knowledge of another person's fault we are supposed to keep quiet lest we detract.  Look around, a lot of people get thumbs up and down, it is not limited to a chosen few.
    Just trying to offer a helpful word.   :pray:


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    « Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 10:46:50 PM »
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  • I'm being too sensitive. I am going to meet with the priest again hopefully next week. I will ask about this because I'm sure it  won't be the last time I'm asked. My list of questions is quite long.  :scared2:  

    Thorn, I agree that the push present thing is crazy. Pregnancy and childbirth are amazing things, but the commercialization of something so amazing really cheapens it.


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    PW you really have done nothing bad.  Who could resist the opportunity to hold a teeny baby for a couple of hours and be a good friend.  I know I would not have been able to say no.

     And if her husband's a cop, I am sure the wee one will make him glad he's out there on the job!  Some men are great with babies.



     



    Thanks Elizabeth. I love newborns. I am anxious to see how my little peanut will react. She might be jealous. :wink:
    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25

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    « Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 11:04:43 PM »
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    I'm being too sensitive. I am going to meet with the priest again hopefully next week. I will ask about this because I'm sure it  won't be the last time I'm asked. My list of questions is quite long.  :scared2:  

    Thorn, I agree that the push present thing is crazy. Pregnancy and childbirth are amazing things, but the commercialization of something so amazing really cheapens it.


    Thanks Elizabeth. I love newborns. I am anxious to see how my little peanut will react. She might be jealous. :wink:



    PW, you are indeed blessed to have a wise and holy priest whom you can seek counsel from.  Deo Gratias and thank you Blessed Mother!

    I guess I'm in company with Thorn, I have never heard about "push presents" until now.  When I first read it my mind wasn't registering and all I could think of was a lawnmower... I guess that's what a guy gets for reading a lady-like thread  

    And yes, there is nothing sweeter than a wee newborn to love and care for!


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    « Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 11:43:55 PM »
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    You forgot that new mothers now expect "push presents"


    ha ha
    I've not heard that one before.
    Do you get a nicer present for a long, hard labor or are the best ones reserved for the quick and efficient labors?  :rolleyes:
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    « Reply #24 on: July 20, 2012, 06:22:33 AM »
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    You forgot that new mothers now expect "push presents"


    ha ha
    I've not heard that one before.
    Do you get a nicer present for a long, hard labor or are the best ones reserved for the quick and efficient labors?  :rolleyes:


    LOL good question. The poor fathers and the pressure..
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    « Reply #25 on: July 21, 2012, 06:42:44 PM »
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  • Oh he is so snuggly and sweet!!!  

    Wish I could be home rocking babies every night. Perfect job!

    My little pumpkin doesn't seem jealous but just clingy. We did examine his tiny hands and she didn't try to taste them so that's good, lol.  

    I hope someday I am blessed with  at least two fairly close together because this is fun. :)
    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25


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    « Reply #26 on: July 21, 2012, 06:48:13 PM »
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    Oh he is so snuggly and sweet!!!  

    Wish I could be home rocking babies every night. Perfect job!

    My little pumpkin doesn't seem jealous but just clingy. We did examine his tiny hands and she didn't try to taste them so that's good, lol.  

    I hope someday I am blessed with  at least two fairly close together because this is fun. :)


    Hey there girlie, just remember kidnapping is a crime in most states...ha!


     




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    « Reply #27 on: July 21, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »
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  • I would never leave my 2 week old either. In fact on another thread I mentioned I don't leave them for the first year. But I wouldn't judge someone else for "needing" to. And I truly wouldn't judge, not just say so then proceed to do so.

    I would worry if she starts to exhibit a pattern of such behavior but not the first time or even every time she went out. I say this as someone who has never been the "go out for drinks with the girls" type. It's not my thing and it may or may not be moral depending on how much they drink, where they go or what entertainment they have, but aside from that I do understand some people need a break. I hesitate to think it has anything to do with not loving her baby.

    It's been 9 months so perhaps you forget how exhausting the nine months of pregnancy, childbirth and the first few weeks with a newborn are. I don't blame any mother looking for a bit of recreation once in a while. In fact it's essential to her sanity sometimes. The first advice against shaken baby syndrome is to step away when you are overwhelmed. Not to say that's what's happening here but I am making the point that stepping away is not intrinsically evil. It can be a good. And we don't know what her circuмstances are. I have a lot of patience and calm with babies but I know it's more than most. In other words I am grateful for it but realize it's above average and don't expect everyone else to be like me in that respect. I try not to look down on those who don't have the same level of patience unless they show bad will in their impatience.

    There's also personalities to take into consideration. I am introverted. The most refreshing thing for me is peace and quiet. DH took everyone but the baby out of the house for a couple hours today. That was so refreshing for me! The quiet ... Ahh... That's how he " spoils" me now and then. But people who are extroverted are refreshed by going out and noise and by being with other people. As much as I can't fathom it ( thats the definition of hell for me!) I do understand it intellectually. If she is extroverted it makes perfect sense that at the exact time when some of us think there would be nothing in the world better than to stay home with our babies, she is seeking refreshment outside. If that's the case she isn't alone in that and is behaving quite in line with her extroversion.

    Of course she may be a terrible mother and all my points are for naught but I hope it gives some food for thought to help you perhaps be more well rounded in your assessment. Unless a pattern of behavior arises it's very premature to be calling her ridiculous or assuming she is a bad mother (implied in all the mothers of today talk) Especially with what little we have to go on.

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    « Reply #28 on: July 21, 2012, 10:12:18 PM »
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  • I have heard of push presents and find it is a very crass term. I disagree with women expecting or demanding them but when a husband wants to gift his wife out of his own desire to show his love and appreciation for her and the gift of the child she just gave him, I find it sweet. It's all in the circuмstance.

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    « Reply #29 on: July 21, 2012, 10:12:24 PM »
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    Hey there girlie, just remember kidnapping is a crime in most states...ha!


     





    Awww, are you sure??  ;-)

    Two sleeping babies. God is good.
    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25