Author Topic: Need Scriptural Quotes (Read 710 times)

TheRealMcCoy · « **on:** June 17, 2016, 08:15:04 AM »

I have a family member (#1) who has a family member (#2) that is putting pressure on #1's family to let #2 live with them indefinitely. I am not related to #2--just #1.

#2 quit a stable lucrative career about 5 years ago in anticipation of an economic "reset" in which he will go underground and wait it out and then re-emerge and start over. He lost his very overpriced house to foreclosure and has gone underground to hide from creditors. #2 has been a non-practicing Catholic for 3 or 4 decades. #1 is very religious and #2 has held himself out recently as a quasi-Catholic in the hopes that #1 will let him move in for only God knows how long. #2 is healthy and had a good job record so he's just refusing to work. #2 has no dependents/no wife but he has a large extended family that I think he might have hit the end of the road with so to speak. None of them can or will let him move in with them.

#2 apparently uses scripture out of context (prot bibles) to justify his heretical beliefs and poor behavior. My question is this:

What scripture quotes can #1 use to explain to #2 why he must go back to work and support himself and stop imposing on the charity of others? I ask for scripture quotes because quoting Church teachings isn't going to register with this person because he essentially isn't Catholic and rejects those teachings.

Thanks.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2016, 09:53:15 AM »

You might try the book of Proverbs Chapter 28, this short chapter is a good read.

Good luck!

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2016, 11:31:57 AM »

That's an easy one:

Quote from: 2 Thessalonians 3:10

... if any man will not work, neither let him eat.

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2016, 01:13:24 PM »

Quote from: The Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ, According to St. Matthew

25:14 For even as a man going into a far country, called his servants, and delivered to them his goods;
sicut enim homo proficiscens vocavit servos suos et tradidit illis bona sua

25:15 And to one he gave five talents, and to another two, and to another one, to every one according to his proper ability: and immediately he took his journey.
et uni dedit quinque talenta alii autem duo alii vero unum unicuique secundum propriam virtutem et profectus est statim

25:16 And he that had received the five talents, went his way, and traded with the same, and gained other five.
abiit autem qui quinque talenta acceperat et operatus est in eis et lucratus est alia quinque

25:17 And in like manner he that had received the two, gained other two.
similiter qui duo acceperat lucratus est alia duo

25:18 But he that had received the one, going his way digged into the earth, and hid his lord's money.
qui autem unum acceperat abiens fodit in terra et abscondit pecuniam domini sui

25:19 But after a long time the lord of those servants came, and reckoned with them.
post multum vero temporis venit dominus servorum illorum et posuit rationem cuм eis

25:20 And he that had received the five talents coming, brought other five talents, saying: Lord, thou didst deliver to me five talents, behold I have gained other five over and above.
et accedens qui quinque talenta acceperat obtulit alia quinque talenta dicens domine quinque talenta mihi tradidisti ecce alia quinque superlucratus sum

25:21 His lord said to him: Well done, good and faithful servant, because thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will place thee over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
ait illi dominus eius euge bone serve et fidelis quia super pauca fuisti fidelis super multa te constituam intra in gaudium domini tui

25:22 And he also that had received the two talents came and said: Lord, thou deliveredst two talents to me: behold I have gained other two.
accessit autem et qui duo talenta acceperat et ait domine duo talenta tradidisti mihi ecce alia duo lucratus sum

25:23 His lord said to him: Well done, good and faithful servant: because thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will place thee over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
ait illi dominus eius euge serve bone et fidelis quia super pauca fuisti fidelis supra multa te constituam intra in gaudium domini tui

25:24 But he that had received the one talent, came and said: Lord, I know that thou art a hard man; thou reapest where thou hast not sown, and gatherest where thou hast not strewed.
accedens autem et qui unum talentum acceperat ait domine scio quia homo durus es metis ubi non seminasti et congregas ubi non sparsisti

25:25 And being afraid I went and hid thy talent in the earth: behold here thou hast that which is thine.
et timens abii et abscondi talentum tuum in terra ecce habes quod tuum est

25:26 And his lord answering, said to him: Wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sow not, and gather where I have not strewed:
respondens autem dominus eius dixit ei serve male et piger sciebas quia meto ubi non semino et congrego ubi non sparsi

25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have committed my money to the bankers, and at my coming I should have received my own with usury.
oportuit ergo te mittere pecuniam meam nummulariis et veniens ego recepissem utique quod meum est cuм usura

25:28 Take ye away therefore the talent from him, and give it to him that hath ten talents.
tollite itaque ab eo talentum et date ei qui habet decem talenta

25:29 For to every one that hath shall be given, and he shall abound: but from him that hath not, that also which he seemeth to have shall be taken away.
omni enim habenti dabitur et abundabit ei autem qui non habet et quod videtur habere auferetur ab eo

25:30 And the unprofitable servant cast ye out into the exterior darkness. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
et inutilem servum eicite in tenebras exteriores illic erit fletus et stridor dentium

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2016, 02:09:36 PM »

Quote from: JohnAnthonyMarie

Quote from: The Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ, According to St. Matthew
25:14 For even as a man going into a far country, called his servants, and delivered to them his goods;
sicut enim homo proficiscens vocavit servos suos et tradidit illis bona sua

25:15 And to one he gave five talents, and to another two, and to another one, to every one according to his proper ability: and immediately he took his journey.
et uni dedit quinque talenta alii autem duo alii vero unum unicuique secundum propriam virtutem et profectus est statim

25:16 And he that had received the five talents, went his way, and traded with the same, and gained other five.
abiit autem qui quinque talenta acceperat et operatus est in eis et lucratus est alia quinque

25:17 And in like manner he that had received the two, gained other two.
similiter qui duo acceperat lucratus est alia duo

25:18 But he that had received the one, going his way digged into the earth, and hid his lord's money.
qui autem unum acceperat abiens fodit in terra et abscondit pecuniam domini sui

25:19 But after a long time the lord of those servants came, and reckoned with them.
post multum vero temporis venit dominus servorum illorum et posuit rationem cuм eis

25:20 And he that had received the five talents coming, brought other five talents, saying: Lord, thou didst deliver to me five talents, behold I have gained other five over and above.
et accedens qui quinque talenta acceperat obtulit alia quinque talenta dicens domine quinque talenta mihi tradidisti ecce alia quinque superlucratus sum

25:21 His lord said to him: Well done, good and faithful servant, because thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will place thee over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
ait illi dominus eius euge bone serve et fidelis quia super pauca fuisti fidelis super multa te constituam intra in gaudium domini tui

25:22 And he also that had received the two talents came and said: Lord, thou deliveredst two talents to me: behold I have gained other two.
accessit autem et qui duo talenta acceperat et ait domine duo talenta tradidisti mihi ecce alia duo lucratus sum

25:23 His lord said to him: Well done, good and faithful servant: because thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will place thee over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
ait illi dominus eius euge serve bone et fidelis quia super pauca fuisti fidelis supra multa te constituam intra in gaudium domini tui

25:24 But he that had received the one talent, came and said: Lord, I know that thou art a hard man; thou reapest where thou hast not sown, and gatherest where thou hast not strewed.
accedens autem et qui unum talentum acceperat ait domine scio quia homo durus es metis ubi non seminasti et congregas ubi non sparsisti

25:25 And being afraid I went and hid thy talent in the earth: behold here thou hast that which is thine.
et timens abii et abscondi talentum tuum in terra ecce habes quod tuum est

25:26 And his lord answering, said to him: Wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sow not, and gather where I have not strewed:
respondens autem dominus eius dixit ei serve male et piger sciebas quia meto ubi non semino et congrego ubi non sparsi

25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have committed my money to the bankers, and at my coming I should have received my own with usury.
oportuit ergo te mittere pecuniam meam nummulariis et veniens ego recepissem utique quod meum est cuм usura

25:28 Take ye away therefore the talent from him, and give it to him that hath ten talents.
tollite itaque ab eo talentum et date ei qui habet decem talenta

25:29 For to every one that hath shall be given, and he shall abound: but from him that hath not, that also which he seemeth to have shall be taken away.
omni enim habenti dabitur et abundabit ei autem qui non habet et quod videtur habere auferetur ab eo

25:30 And the unprofitable servant cast ye out into the exterior darkness. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
et inutilem servum eicite in tenebras exteriores illic erit fletus et stridor dentium

What a weird coincidence.....this is the passage that person #2 frequently quotes. :shocked:

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:03:50 PM »

Quote from: The Second Epistle of St. Paul to the Thessalonians

3:10 For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.
nam et cuм essemus apud vos hoc denuntiabamus vobis quoniam si quis non vult operari nec manducet