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Mothers overtaking men as breadwinners
« on: May 29, 2013, 08:00:33 AM »
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    WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's working mothers are now the primary breadwinners in a record 40 percent of households with children - a milestone in the changing face of modern families, up from just 11 percent in 1960.

    The findings by the Pew Research Center, released Wednesday, highlight the growing influence of "breadwinner moms" who keep their families afloat financially. While most are headed by single mothers, a growing number are families with married mothers who bring in more income than their husbands.

    Demographers say the change is all but irreversible and is likely to bring added attention to child-care policies as well as government safety nets for vulnerable families. Still, the general public is not at all sure that having more working mothers is a good thing.

    While roughly 79 percent of Americans reject the notion that women should return to their traditional roles, only 21 percent of those polled said the trend of more mothers of young children working outside the home is a good thing for society, according to the Pew survey.

    Roughly 3 in 4 adults said the increasing number of women working for pay has made it harder for parents to raise children.

    "This change is just another milestone in the dramatic transformation we have seen in family structure and family dynamics over the past 50 years or so," said Kim Parker, associate director with the Pew Social & Demographic Trends Project. "Women's roles have changed, marriage rates have declined - the family looks a lot different than it used to. The rise of breadwinner moms highlights the fact that, not only are more mothers balancing work and family these days, but the economic contributions mothers are making to their households have grown immensely."

    The trend is being driven mostly by long-term demographic changes, including higher rates of education and labor force participation dating back to the 1960s women's movement. Today, more women than men hold bachelor's degrees, and they make up nearly half - 47 percent - of the American workforce.

    But recent changes in the economy, too, have played a part. Big job losses in manufacturing and construction, fields that used to provide high pay to a mostly male workforce, have lifted the relative earnings of married women, even among those in mid-level positions such as teachers, nurses or administrators. The jump in working women has been especially prominent among those who are mothers - from 37 percent in 1968 to 65 percent in 2011 - reflecting in part increases for those who went looking for jobs to lift sagging family income after the recent recession.

    At the same time, marriage rates have fallen to record lows. Forty percent of births now occur out of wedlock, leading to a rise in single-mother households. Many of these mothers are low-income with low education, and more likely to be black or Hispanic.

    In all, 13.7 million U.S. households with children under age 18 now include mothers who are the main breadwinners. Of those, 5.1 million, or 37 percent, are married, while 8.6 million, or 63 percent, are single. The income gap between the families is large - $80,000 in median family income for married couples vs. $23,000 for single mothers.

    Both groups of breadwinner moms - married and unmarried - have grown sharply.

    Among all U.S. households with children, the share of married breadwinner moms has jumped from 4 percent in 1960 to 15 percent in 2011. For single mothers, the share has increased from 7 percent to 25 percent.

    Andrew Cherlin, a professor of sociology and public policy at Johns Hopkins University, said that to his surprise public attitudes toward working mothers have changed very little over the years. He predicts the growing numbers will lead to a growing constituency among women in favor of family-friendly work policies such as paid family leave, as well as safety net policies such as food stamps or child care support for single mothers.

    "Many of our workplaces and schools still follow a male-breadwinner model, assuming that the wives are at home to take care of child care needs," he said. "Until we realize that the breadwinner-homemaker marriage will never again be the norm, we won't provide working parents with the support they need."

    Other findings:

    -There is a gender gap on attitudes. About 45 percent of women say children are better off if their mother is at home, and 38 percent say children are just as well off if the mother works. Among men, 57 percent say children are better off if their mother is at home, while 29 percent say they are just as well off if she works.

    -The share of married couples in which the wife is more educated than the husband is rising, from 7 percent in 1960 to 23 percent in 2011. Still, the vast majority of couples include spouses with similar educational backgrounds, at 61 percent.

    -The number of working wives who make more than their husbands has been increasing more rapidly in recent years. Among recently married couples, including those without children, the share of "breadwinner wives" is roughly 30 percent, compared with 24 percent of all married couples.

    The Pew study is based on an analysis of census data as of 2011, the latest available, as well as interviews with 1,003 adults by cellphone or landline from April 25 to 28. The Pew poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

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    Mothers overtaking men as breadwinners
    « Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 08:45:00 AM »
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  • Healthcare and education are more recession proof than other fields. Also many women who worked part-time or on a per diem basis in healthcare when to full-time or more than full-time as the recession hit.

    I think the support in daycare assistance instead of cash assistance was a terrible thing the GOP did.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 08:49:54 AM »
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  • The same bias in favor of women that has historically existed in matters of law now exists in matters of employment.

    Women favor each other, and natural bullies that gravitate towards management are typically eager to find a reason to punish a man for this or that, but hesitant to punish a woman.

    That it wrecks society is a minor concern.

    "Men should be men" - "you're on your own" "People get what they deserve"

    These are the excuses of those who seldom miss an opportunity to gratify petty spite and love the cheap flattery of women.

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    Mothers overtaking men as breadwinners
    « Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 09:09:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: Pew
    These “breadwinner moms” are made up of two very different groups: 5.1 million (37%) are married mothers who have a higher income than their husbands, and 8.6 million (63%) are single mothers.1

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    While the vast majority of Americans (79%) reject the idea that women should return to their traditional roles, the new Pew Research survey finds that the public still sees mothers and fathers in a different light when it comes to evaluating the best work-family balance for children.

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    Today’s single mothers are much more likely to be never married than were single mothers in the past. The share of never married mothers among all single mothers has increased from 4% in 1960 to 44% in 2011. During the same period, the share of single mothers who had children from previous marriages has gone down from 82% to 50%.


    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/29/breadwinner-moms/

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    « Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 09:25:11 AM »
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  • I really doubt most Americans don't approve of women working. I've been in a culture where they do, and it's completely different. Their not approving of it does not depend on the family's economic circumstance.
    I remember feeling awkward  saying I was staying at home, not that I was embarrassed but just knowing how people respond, expecting their reaction, and then being surprised seeing their faces and reaction of approval and that is better. They look down on a woman being employed.It's not something you generally see in the US if the husband earns a low wage.

    Same thing as usual, religious people with traditional/good values until it doesn't = a lifestyle they approve of.



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    « Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 09:56:40 AM »
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    I really doubt most Americans don't approve of women working. I've been in a culture where they do, and it's completely different. Their not approving of it does not depend on the family's economic circumstance.
    I remember feeling awkward  saying I was staying at home, not that I was embarrassed but just knowing how people respond, expecting their reaction, and then being surprised seeing their faces and reaction of approval and that is better. They look down on a woman being employed.It's not something you generally see in the US if the husband earns a low wage.

    Same thing as usual, religious people with traditional/good values until it doesn't = a lifestyle they approve of.



    Our family is very blessed in that my wife is able to work and stay home simultaneously; she runs a home daycare. Of course, I would guess most "career women" would look down on her because, well, caring for children - even those not your own - just isn't a career in their eyes.
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X

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    « Reply #6 on: May 29, 2013, 10:14:52 AM »
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  • My wife is a teacher in a Catholic school. She is the only one there that knows her faith. She gets some angst for being a traditional. She has exposed a few people to the traditional church. I earn more than double what she earns and I don't know how I would feel if she earned more.
    She is an unbelievable teacher. It's not a job. It's a vocation. I think it's a mistake to work unless there is a grave financial need or its a genuine vocation from God.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!

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    « Reply #7 on: May 29, 2013, 10:40:00 AM »
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    Our family is very blessed in that my wife is able to work and stay home simultaneously; she runs a home daycare. Of course, I would guess most "career women" would look down on her because, well, caring for children - even those not your own - just isn't a career in their eyes.


    As a former nanny, I'd have to agree. While 99% families I worked for were extremely respectful and did not look down on me, I saw how many other nannies were treated.  The hypocrisy of some of the over-achievers!!  They treated the person who had the most daily contact with their baby as less than human.  How's that for women's rights?  


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    « Reply #8 on: May 29, 2013, 02:13:31 PM »
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  • Women with children may have the typical boyfriend/man and will stay single to get benefits from the gov't.  They refuse to marry for this one reason.  They still work.  Some countries PAY couples not to marry.  I certainly disagree with the gov't paying couples not to marry and incentives to stay single. When you see statistics there can be other underlying things going on.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 29, 2013, 02:29:33 PM »
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  • I haven't followed it but I know President Obama wanted to remove the "marriage penalty" from the Earned Income Tax Credit.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 29, 2013, 02:46:40 PM »
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  • The Welfare Reform Bill of the late 90's not only gave the uninsured(illegals) benefits galore, but also jobs!  The Bill is paying out with our Federal dollars.  Those  jobs were paid by you and me.  The money would pay the employer to pay the employee, the uninsured.  BUT there was a catch.  As long as no one got pregnant.  If they did, it could change the outcome of benefits.  Now guess who was the major organization to implement this?  The New Order so-called catholic church.  Here in Phoenix area, 6 churches set up their halls with vendors from planned parenthood to dental you name it.  And those who signed up the uninsured were their own deacons and lay of their churches.  I saw displays of IUD's in plastic wombs, and birth control prescribed right there!

    Now, we are told that NY dioceses is paying for the abortion industry.  that's right and so are all dioceses.  

    I bet no one can show me one dioceses that does not pay into the abortion industry.  Don't forget the campaign for human development or the so-called catholic charities with March of Dimes and Domestic Violence (which hides planned parenthood).  Check the hospitals handbooks.  Abortion and etc are being paid and supported very well by the New Order.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 29, 2013, 03:05:44 PM »
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  • Sad, but true!  As a teacher, it is increasingly difficult to find parents to chaperone field trips.  The volunteer "class-mother" is a thing of the past.  Tomorrow grades K-4 will go to a museum.  Only one mother will be along.  The other chaperones are several fathers who work nights, a father who is currently unemployed, and a grandfather.  The moms are all working during the day.  

    Realistically, in NYC, most mothers have to work, at least part-time in order to meet basic needs.  Unless dad is very-well paid, it is very difficult.  The very few who live on one medium income and have a large family generally all home school and live significantly below the "normal" standard of the majority.  The brave few are harshly criticized, especially in Traditional Catholic circles.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

     

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