What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoliWhat are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
who was a woman.
When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
of Jesus, who was a man.
Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.
Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoliWhat are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
who was a woman.
When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
of Jesus, who was a man.
Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.
What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Why do all you women feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sɛҳuąƖ matters?
Why do all youwomenladies feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sɛҳuąƖ matters?
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. (1Tim 2:12)
The OP is a man. Don't change the subject to "temptations of women".
I doubt any lady is going to come on this PUBLIC forum and talk about what you are attempting to bring up.
I never mentioned any particular names in my posting, I was talking to all the ladies that have posted here. I do correct my posting though:
Quote from: Last TradhicanWhy do all youwomenladies feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sɛҳuąƖ matters?
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. (1Tim 2:12)
The OP is a man. Don't change the subject to "temptations of women".
What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Masturbation is a mortal sin making one worthy of Hell. What kind of advice is that? Learn your Faith.
Quote from: Maximus33Masturbationimpure touching is a mortal sin making one worthy of Hell. What kind of advice is that? Learn your Faith.
No it's not. I can't believe I got 9 thumbs down there.
I am a good poster. That was ridiculous, although I realize
how what I said could have been misconstrued, which it was.Masturbationimpure touching is not often a cardinal sin.
Quote from: Maximus33
Masturbation is a mortal sin making one worthy of Hell. What kind of advice is that? Learn your Faith.
No it's not. I can't believe I got 9 thumbs down there.
I am a good poster. That was ridiculous, although I realize
how what I said could have been misconstrued, which it was.
Masturbation is not often a cardinal sin.
Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoliWhat are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?
Realize (and always remember) that you can't hide from God, He can see you, so can your guardian angel. One has to forget God exists to self abuse themselves, it's a kin to doing it in front of your parents, while thinking you are invisible.
I don't like the use of the word "m", Catholics should use language that can be spoken around anyone (mixed company, younger men, children), use impure touching, abuse oneself. Another example, Sodomites are impure men.
Masturbation is not often a cardinal sin.
I guess that it's not always a mortal sin...
I just wanted to say that I also believe that self-abuse is a mortal sin and I also downthumbed your post because I thought it was bad advice.
This is my advice it works for ALL sin, I can guarantee it..
Meditate on the passion of Christ, imagine His Precious Blood flowing from His Body, imagine His suffering of His knowledge, how He felt every pain before it happened to Him. Nothing was held back, by that I mean, He felt it without any narcotic to help Him, He did not deceive us in any way by willing the pain would not be so bad. He could have with a wink of His eye willed His executioners to suffer or drop like a fly, but He did not.
Put yourself in His place through that entire night, of Holy Thursday, His being dragged about from judge to judge knowing all along His fate. Can you just imagine His suffering on Good Friday, think of the entire passion.
If you spend a little time on this daily, you will not so much as tell a lie.
Yeah snowball, all forms of sɛҳuąƖ activity outside of marriage are mortally sinful except for nocturnal emissions. Even the thought alone is mortal if sufficiently entertained... even if only for a second!.
With that in mind, my only other suggestion for the OP outside some of the very good meditations and prayers that have been suggested here is this: use the Sign of the Cross whenever an impure thought or memory enters into your mind. It's vital to catch them as soon as we are aware of them and for young men this can be many, many times in one day. The Sign of the Cross is quick and easy to do and will be able to match the pace of any temptation that bears down on you. Let the Cross do the work and any other pious image you can produce in your mind's eye.
sounded good until you said "if you have to ... uh.. [do yourself], which is a mortal sin regardless of pornography
Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
who was a woman.
When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
of Jesus, who was a man.
Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sɛҳuąƖ pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sɛҳuąƖ faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sɛҳuąƖ pleasure is sought outside of "the sɛҳuąƖ relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139Has this teaching been inserted in previous catechisms? And, by saying "that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability" does it mean that under some circuмstances, it might NOT EVEN BE A SIN at all? I'm confused now. :o :o
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says that:"Mission complete".
Has this teaching been inserted in previous catechisms? And, by saying "that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability" does it mean that under some circuмstances, it might NOT EVEN BE A SIN at all? I'm confused now. :o :o
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says that:Be very careful. I got rid of my two copies of the CCC because of the fuzzy feel-good heresy expressed in certain sections.
" 2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sɛҳuąƖ pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sɛҳuąƖ faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sɛҳuąƖ pleasure is sought outside of "the sɛҳuąƖ relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139 "
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability. "
Has this teaching been inserted in previous catechisms? And, by saying "that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability" does it mean that under some circuмstances, it might NOT EVEN BE A SIN at all? I'm confused now. :o :o
Not if you're the Devil; it's "counterproductive", don't you know?
Surely the awareness of sin and what behaviour is sinful needs to be taught to children from the start ?