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« on: June 19, 2016, 02:26:05 AM »
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  • What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?

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    « Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 06:17:09 AM »
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  • Three hail Mary's devotion, daily rosary, and scapular consecration.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 11:20:18 AM »
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  • Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoli
    What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?


    Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
    When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
    who was a woman.
    When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
    of Jesus, who was a man.

    Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
    Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
    In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
    with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.


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    « Reply #3 on: June 19, 2016, 11:52:43 AM »
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  • The pornography part you can control easier -- throw it out, delete it, put blocks on your computer, cancel your Internet if you have to.

    Unless you work in IT, or you are using your Internet connection to telecommute to work, you CAN live without the Internet. For the occasional online shopping or communication with someone you don't have a phone number for, there's always a friend's house or the library.

    As for the others, you should make sure you stay busy. Your average day shouldn't be filled with tons of (completely private) leisure time like the typical American. Stay busy. Find more work (hobby, volunteer, or paid) and make sure at least some of it is PHYSICAL to wear out your body a bit.

    You need to practice more fasting and mortification. It's hard to avoid taking pleasures you are forbidden, if you haven't practiced mortification at all. One good form of mortification is to deny yourself licit pleasures once in a while.

    The world has practically forgotten the value of corporal mortification.

    You also need to make use of frequent confession, Mass, and foster a devotion to the Blessed Mother.

    Also realize that plenty of men -- married and single, layman and cleric -- practice chastity with success every day. They are "continent" which means "they can contain their vessel with honor" -- they properly control the faculties God gave them, without sin. For the single, that means not using these faculties at all, and for the married that means using them only within the bounds of marriage (which still has rules!)

    If you aren't able to control/contain yourself, realize that you are somewhat deficient, and somewhat "less of a man". Think of how shameful it is to be a slave to your lowest of passions. Let this fact motivate you.

    Don't compare yourself to the lame excuses for "men" around you. If everyone else is a lemming headed for a cliff, does it help you any to be "no worse than them"? Ok, perhaps technically you're no worse than they, but you're still extremely bad off!

    You are being led off a precipice (leading to Hell) by a thing that lets you have your shameful "few seconds of pleasure" every so many hours -- and you're helplessly content with that, following along like a stupid puppy. How shameful and ridiculous is that!

    What would you think of a dog who followed me to the top of a live volcano, just because I dropped a lousy piece of dry dog food every 150 feet? Pathetic, right?
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    « Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 12:04:17 PM »
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  • I posted this on Cathinfo 9 years ago (wow has it been that long?):

    Christ Wants More: Ignatian Principles and Ideals on Prayer and Action
    Fr. Frank Holland, S.J.
    Sodality Director
    Originally published in 1961

    “The Difficult Commandment”

    Every normal individual that has reached young manhood or womanhood is bound to have some temptations against purity – impure thoughts that run quickly through the mind, temptation to sins of curiosity, of touch, of desire, and so on. There are times when we wish we could toss our bodies away just to get rid of such temptations. Since that is not God’s plan for us, it’s better to face the fact calmly that this is part of living, part of growing up and staying grown up. And the whole truth about the matter is that it’s a fight to the end! At least, that’s St. Paul’s version of it, and he was human.

    A saint who experienced very trying temptations against purity was St. Catherine of Siena. One day she was “tormented” by the most vile imaginations against purity; and when the ordeal was finally over, she asked Our Lord: “Where were you when I needed You so much?”

    Christ’s answer to Catherine should assure us when we have to endure the same or a similar trial: “I was with you, Catherine, strengthening you by My grace and loving you for your resistance to sin. I wanted to KNOW and to see how much you loved Me!”

    Just how do we fight this particular kind of battle? Most often by the “indirect method,” by building up defenses before the enemy engages us. When it’s a matter of purity, we’re all “in the army.” So, here’s an important list of “army regulations” from our King and Commander:

    1) Be careful of the way you use your EYES. Learn to turn away quickly from impure pictures, stories, ads, movies, immodest persons and anything that could cause trouble now or later. Mortify your eyes even in legitimate things from time to time. It’s easier then when something sinful shows up.

    2) Store up your mind with good reading. Satan’s human helpers are turning out thousands of indecent books and magazines a year. Don’t get stupidly caught in this snare. Recoveries are rare! One bad book or one obscene magazine may cause you endless trouble for the rest of your life. Cut the curiosity! You’re not missing anything worthwhile!

    3) Develop a LOVE FOR WORK! Idleness is still the Devil’s Workshop. Don’t sit around and wait for trouble. Work keeps you mentally and physically occupied. It keeps your mind off yourself and off any number of dangerous things. Work gives you a sense of dignity and achievement, a healthy self-respect and a sense of decency.

    4) Avoid day-dreaming, especially when you see temptation coming. Get right down to the next thing to be done. If it’s time for sleep, go to sleep (in God). If it’s time for work or study, put your mind on that – that’s God’s Will for you right now.

    5) Have a fixed “code” for dating; otherwise, you’re just begging for a WAR. Have something to remind yourself about your code; for example, always kneel down and put yourself and the date in Our Lady’s hands before you leave the house; ask for grace. Take a good look at the St. Christopher medal in your car and say a meaningful aspiration to be likewise a “Christ-bearer.” Don’t let HIM down for anything. Remember a mere creature (even a pretty girl or a handsome fellow) is nothing compared to God. Necking may not always be a sin, but rule it out unless you really want TROUBLE. Sex is a “passion” and once you let it go, the chances are that ten to one, the fight to control it is going to be bigger than you are. And if you fall, think of the REMORSE. You’ve let God down, let yourself down, and harmed someone else who belonged to God.

    6) Dress APPROPRIATELY. This is especially important for girls. You are someone who lives in God’s presence. When you’re all dressed up and ready to go places, ask HIM how you look. Then you won’t need to worry about being the occasion of sin to others on that score.

    7) Use your HEAD, not your BODY, on dates. Keep up an interesting, intelligent conversation. Father Lord used to say that petting and necking were signs of a social “breakdown”; the couple had run out of other and better things to talk about and do. It’s time to go home at that point.

    8) Remember: Men and women react differently both physically and mentally in the face of sex occasions. Men are much more easily aroused to passion than women are, and a woman ought to know this so as to help a man keep his integrity. If a girl is somewhat aroused by physical affection, then she can be almost sure the boy is more so, and may be on the danger-line of mortal sin. This is why prolonged kissing and embracing are simply “out” for the un-married. They lead directly and surely to impure thoughts and impure desires, and then to sins of touch and all the rest that goes with it. That ought to be plain enough for anyone to understand. Don’t ask for trouble.

    9) Demand respect from others firmly but kindly.

    10) In time of temptation, don’t dally around. Delay may be fatal. Be calm. Put your purity in the hands of Christ Crucified. If you know that you prayed in the time of temptation and did not will to sin, you can be sure there is nothing to worry about. Put your mind to work – on a god detective story, a cross-word puzzle, a hard problem in math, or a Latin translation for the next day’s class.

    11) Go to confession frequently and to Holy Communion daily if possible, or at least once a week. Here is our real SOURCE OF STRENGTH.

    12) Have a devotion to Mary that is REAL. Another word for devotion is IMITATION, and imitation is always the highest manifestation of love. Real devotion to Mary will influence your every act, your whole approach to life. If it’s an imitation, it will show itself in a dedicated practice of Mary’s virtues – love for God’s Will, obedience to authority, humility before God’s Law, and above all the perfection of chastity.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 19, 2016, 02:16:47 PM »
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  • OP - The best way to avoid vices is to avoid their near occasions, even concerning little things.  "Pes meus stetit in directo"(my foot hath stood in the straight way) says the psalmist.  Do likewise.    
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15

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    « Reply #7 on: June 19, 2016, 07:17:01 PM »
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    Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoli
    What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?


    Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
    When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
    who was a woman.
    When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
    of Jesus, who was a man.

    Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
    Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
    In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
    with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.



    Masturbation is a sin and almost always a mortal sin. Why would you offer advice that could send someone to hell?

    I am He who is- you are she who is not.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 19, 2016, 09:27:17 PM »
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    What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?


    Jesus and all your ancestors are watching you.
    When you see a woman in porn, think of the Blessed Mother,
    who was a woman.
    When you see a depiction of a man in pornogrpahy, think
    of Jesus, who was a man.

    Learn how to detest pornography. It is your enemy.
    Put your efforts into finding a righteous spouse.
    In the meantime, if you must masturbate, do so in your bed,
    with no pornography. Be in tune to your goals of life.



    Masturbation is a mortal sin making one worthy of Hell. What kind of advice is that? Learn your Faith.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 21, 2016, 08:47:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: GiuseppeMichelePoli
    What are the best and most effective methods for conquering the sin of lust and masturbation, pornography, impure thoughts, etc?


    Realize (and always remember) that you can't hide from God, He can see you, so can your guardian angel. One has to forget God exists to self abuse themselves, it's a kin to doing it in front of your parents, while thinking you are invisible.

    I don't like the use of the word "m", Catholics should use language that can be spoken around anyone (mixed company, younger men, children), use impure touching, abuse oneself. Another example, Sodomites are impure men.  
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #10 on: June 21, 2016, 09:33:35 AM »
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  • This is my advice it works for ALL sin, I can guarantee it.

    Meditate on the passion of Christ, imagine His Precious Blood flowing from His Body, imagine His suffering of His knowledge, how He felt every pain before it happened to Him.  Nothing was held back, by that I mean, He felt it without any narcotic to help Him, He did not deceive us in any way by willing the pain would not be so bad.  He could have with a wink of His eye willed His executioners to suffer or drop like a fly, but He did not.

    Put yourself in His place through that entire night, of Holy Thursday, His being dragged about from judge to judge knowing all along His fate.  Can you just imagine His suffering on Good Friday, think of the entire passion.  

    If you spend a little time on this daily, you will not so much as tell a lie.  







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    « Reply #11 on: June 21, 2016, 11:14:05 AM »
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  • Why do all you women feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sexual matters?


    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. (1Tim 2:12)
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #12 on: June 21, 2016, 12:34:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: Last Tradhican
    Why do all you women feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sexual matters?


    Why are you so ignorant as to believe that only men are tempted to sins of impurity?  I don't know what MyrnaM meant by her post (whether she was NOT referencing women, but only men), but I do know what I mean by "giving advice."  It is hardly only to men.  So I will "teach" women, whether or not you personally want me to teach women.  I don't think you are the moderator of the forum.

    So, women (because apparently some men on CI believe that "only men" are tempted to impurity), we know that we are also tempted, even though some of those temptations are quite different, or can be, being that so often ours are verbal rather than -or in addition to-- visual.  We are "wired" differently than men are; we have much in common, though, with men, and with the advice given by Matthew and at least a couple of others here, regarding idleness, regarding fidelity in prayer, regarding practice of the sacraments.

    So Tradhican can ignore me while I speak to the others.  On a personal level, I will tell you that when I am tempted to impurity, it is most often because I actually need to go to confession for other sins, and I have been ignoring some persistent vices (attachments to venial sins, and venial sins which are getting close to mortal in level).   This happened to me recently, by the way.  My barely-resisted temptations to impurity were a screaming signal to get the heck to confession.  Once I did, immediately those pressures vanished.  Thanks be to God for the sacraments.



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    « Reply #13 on: June 21, 2016, 12:58:19 PM »
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  • The OP is a man. Don't change the subject to "temptations of women".

    I doubt any lady is going to come on this PUBLIC forum and talk about what you are attempting to bring up.

    I never mentioned any particular names in my posting, I was talking to all the ladies that have posted here. I do correct my posting though:

     
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    Why do all you women ladies feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sexual matters?


    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. (1Tim 2:12)


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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #14 on: June 21, 2016, 01:23:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: Last Tradhican
    The OP is a man. Don't change the subject to "temptations of women".

    I doubt any lady is going to come on this PUBLIC forum and talk about what you are attempting to bring up.

    I never mentioned any particular names in my posting, I was talking to all the ladies that have posted here. I do correct my posting though:

     
    Quote from: Last Tradhican
    Why do all you women ladies feel compelled to give advice to a man about personal sexual matters?


    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. (1Tim 2:12)




    If your post was directed toward me ... I directed my post as a method to conquering ALL  sin.  

    The solution to your problem Last Tradhican might be to ask Matthew to provide a "mens only" area as he has  "for women only" area right here on this forum.  More womanly advice given ... too bad! :laugh1:

    Thank you MMagdala ... thumbs up to you!

     


     

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