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Offline curiouscatholic23

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« on: November 21, 2011, 12:09:15 AM »
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  • I just got off the phone from a heretical protestant friend. He said he spent the night at his gf's house. I said oh.....ok and changed the subject. I have expressed to him before why fornication is a mortal sin, and he brushed me off. I thought about admonishing him tonight when he told me, but I didn't. Now my conscience tells me I messed up big time by not saying anything. Did I objectively commit a mortal sin of omission?


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    « Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 12:15:35 AM »
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    I've told you before, you need more priest and less MHFM...


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    « Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 01:03:46 AM »
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  • You say that you have already told him, so he already knows.  

    I second s2srea's advice.  You need to seek the counsel of a Traditional Catholic priest and avoid MHFM.  Beware of scruples and that is exactly what you are going to get by watching MHFM's videos and reading their literature.  The devil loves to put scruples into the minds of Catholics because he knows that if he can get you to despair, he has a better chance of dragging you to your eternal damnation.

    As the old proverb says, "He who teaches himself hath a fool for a teacher", and I would change that to "He who counsels himself, has a fool for a counselor".  Now, granted, if a Catholic has had a good foundation in Catholic teaching, he will be able to trust his instincts (conscience) better than if he did not have a good Catholic foundation, but even then, there are many times where a Catholic particularly in our day and time should seek a priest's counsel AND if you are not going to confession regularly, you are keeping yourself needlessly and dangerously in harm's way!

    If my memory serves me correctly, you are far away from a priest, but if that is the case, it is no excuse since you are a phone call or email away from a priest.  

    Also, if you don't yet have a copy of "My Catholic Faith" by Bishop Louis La Ravoire Morrow, pick one up.  We used this with our kids when they were growing up and I've reached for it many times when I needed to look something up.  You can find one new for about $40.00 or look on Amazon or other internet sites for used books.   :reading:

    While you are waiting for the book to arrive, pick up the phone and call a priest. Best wishes to you.  You are in my prayers.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 02:27:50 AM »
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  • The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?

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    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 04:02:08 AM »
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  • Curiouscatholic is going through a phase I think we all went through. Scruples isn't common to one age group, type of person, etc. We all have done it, I think, when learning the traditional Catholic faith. He is going to be this way, regardless of MHFM or not.

    BTW, don't worry about not reprimanding every single thing that comes your way. We would all be dead and blue in the face if we did (oh, I just saw a scantily clad woman at the supermarket, must chastise... I saw cleavage at the cashier, must chastise... I heard a guy say "Jesus Christ!" on the cell phone, must chastise).  See what I'm saying?

    Really just take this out on the personal level to people who are actually in dialogue with you, or are directly engaging in sin while attacking you or your children or your fiance/wife, etc, then you will be okay. God sees us all trying to be faithful and not be "pushovers" , I would hope.




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    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 04:04:41 AM »
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    The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?



    I think for the fact that professional sports are managed and run mostly by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and Freemasons, yes , it is problematic and conflicting to our Catholic interests (not sure if I would go so far as say mortal sin) to patronize them by watching their sporting events, watching the ads they place on TV in between airings, and buying tickets to see them in person. Professional sports is the religion of the modern pagan, mind you. They don't go to Mass on sunday, so they go to the stadium instead and "pray together with others like them" to the businessmen in protective padding on the field.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 03:19:01 PM »
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  • Just by saying, "Oh....ok," in a disapproving-sounding voice since you have already explained the reality of what he is doing is, itself, admonishment enough.  In fact, it probably cut to the heart much more deeply and accurately than anything else you could say.  You see, your friend could speak against anything you might have said about the subject and tried to defend himself, in his conscience anyway.  But by simply disapproving and changing the subject, he can't work over his conscience and convince himself that you're just being prudish and blow you off.  He has to live with what he clearly knows is your disapproval and it will have more an affect on his conscience.

    Never beat a dead horse or, as Christ said, throw pearls before swine.  You have done what must be done and he must answer for himself now.  Your job is never to approve of the situation, which would mean no attending parties when they decide to move in, no accepting invitations from them jointly, etc.

    But life must go on.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 04:18:48 PM »
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  • I also recommend talking to a Traditional priest about your concerns.

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    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a mortal sin for me to watch the games?


    I was a big sports fan as a kid, partly due to living with a sports-crazed Protestant father. Since I became a Traditional Catholic, however, I have slowly distanced myself from the modern world, sports included. I see way too many sins in sports...violation of the Third Commandment by playing on Sunday, greed, seductive cheerleaders, etc.

    I don't think watching sports is a mortal sin. But I wouldn't recommend going to sports games (atleast, not on Sundays) or obsessing over sports. It isn't sinful to like or watch sports in my opinion, but I am no priest. You should ask a Traditional priest about sports and see what he says.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 07:53:33 PM »
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    The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?



    I think for the fact that professional sports are managed and run mostly by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and Freemasons, yes , it is problematic and conflicting to our Catholic interests (not sure if I would go so far as say mortal sin) to patronize them by watching their sporting events, watching the ads they place on TV in between airings, and buying tickets to see them in person. Professional sports is the religion of the modern pagan, mind you. They don't go to Mass on sunday, so they go to the stadium instead and "pray together with others like them" to the businessmen in protective padding on the field.


    Freemasons, maybe, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  Based on what evidence?
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    « Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 09:14:18 PM »
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    The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?



    I think for the fact that professional sports are managed and run mostly by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and Freemasons, yes , it is problematic and conflicting to our Catholic interests (not sure if I would go so far as say mortal sin) to patronize them by watching their sporting events, watching the ads they place on TV in between airings, and buying tickets to see them in person. Professional sports is the religion of the modern pagan, mind you. They don't go to Mass on sunday, so they go to the stadium instead and "pray together with others like them" to the businessmen in protective padding on the field.


    Freemasons, maybe, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  Based on what evidence?



    Laura Ricketts, with the Chicago Cubs.
    http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gαy/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=23357


    Mark Cuban, either gαy or gαy-sympathizer.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2762656


    Theres more, and not localized but widespread underneath...


    And Freemasons are confirmed. There is no maybe to this. Want sources too? Google it , do some homework so it is more satisfying when you come to the truth.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 09:20:54 PM »
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  • Don't forget to add the Phoenix Suns' CEO to that list (can't think of his name), and the Suns' point guard Steve Nash is pro-gαy. I don't think Mark Cuban is gαy since he's married I believe (unless he's a bi-sɛҳuąƖ).

    Thanks for pointing that out, PIO. The NBA has been pro-gαy for a while now.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 09:23:45 PM »
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  • In fact, read what former NBA player Charles Barkley has to say about gαy marriage, it's quite disgusting. From Wikipedia:

    "I'm a big advocate of gαy marriage. If they want to get married, God bless them." Speaking to Wolf Blitzer on CNN two years later, he said: "Every time I hear the word 'conservative,' it makes me sick to my stomach, because they're really just fake Christians, as I call them. That's all they are. ... I think they want to be judge and jury. Like, I'm for gαy marriage. It's none of my business if gαy people want to get married. I'm pro-choice. And I think these Christians, first of all, they're not supposed to judge other people. But they're the most hypocritical judge of people we have in the country. And it bugs the hell out of me. They act like they're Christians. They're not forgiving at all." During a 2011 Martin Luther King, Jr. Day double-header on TNT, Barkley responded to a statement by Dr. King's daughter Bernice by saying, "People try to make it about black and white. [But] he talked about equality for every man, every woman. We have a thing going on now, people discriminating against ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in this country. I love the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity people. God bless the gαy people. They are great people."
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 09:57:45 PM »
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    The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?



    I think for the fact that professional sports are managed and run mostly by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and Freemasons, yes , it is problematic and conflicting to our Catholic interests (not sure if I would go so far as say mortal sin) to patronize them by watching their sporting events, watching the ads they place on TV in between airings, and buying tickets to see them in person. Professional sports is the religion of the modern pagan, mind you. They don't go to Mass on sunday, so they go to the stadium instead and "pray together with others like them" to the businessmen in protective padding on the field.


    Freemasons, maybe, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  Based on what evidence?



    Laura Ricketts, with the Chicago Cubs.
    http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gαy/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=23357


    Mark Cuban, either gαy or gαy-sympathizer.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2762656


    Theres more, and not localized but widespread underneath...


    And Freemasons are confirmed. There is no maybe to this. Want sources too? Google it , do some homework so it is more satisfying when you come to the truth.


    I really wasn't disagreeing.  I am just ignorant of everything about sports but the games themselves.  Thanks for the links. and the information.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 12:03:08 AM »
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    The  things I struggle the most with is debating what is a mortal sin in regard to staring/noticing pretty girls walking by (lust), and deciding what is appropriate to do on sunday (go to grocery store, restraunts, doing laundry, cleanig my room)????

    I also enjoy watching football and basketball on TV, but there are times in the game when the camera focuses in on the cheerleaders who are always dressed immodestly with the mini skirts. Is this objectively a moral sin for me to watch the games?



    I think for the fact that professional sports are managed and run mostly by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and Freemasons, yes , it is problematic and conflicting to our Catholic interests (not sure if I would go so far as say mortal sin) to patronize them by watching their sporting events, watching the ads they place on TV in between airings, and buying tickets to see them in person. Professional sports is the religion of the modern pagan, mind you. They don't go to Mass on sunday, so they go to the stadium instead and "pray together with others like them" to the businessmen in protective padding on the field.


    Freemasons, maybe, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  Based on what evidence?



    Laura Ricketts, with the Chicago Cubs.
    http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gαy/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=23357


    Mark Cuban, either gαy or gαy-sympathizer.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2762656




    Theres more, and not localized but widespread underneath...


    And Freemasons are confirmed. There is no maybe to this. Want sources too? Google it , do some homework so it is more satisfying when you come to the truth.


    I really wasn't disagreeing.  I am just ignorant of everything about sports but the games themselves.  Thanks for the links. and the information.



    No problem, Sig.  

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    « Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 12:04:07 AM »
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    In fact, read what former NBA player Charles Barkley has to say about gαy marriage, it's quite disgusting. From Wikipedia:

    "I'm a big advocate of gαy marriage. If they want to get married, God bless them." Speaking to Wolf Blitzer on CNN two years later, he said: "Every time I hear the word 'conservative,' it makes me sick to my stomach, because they're really just fake Christians, as I call them. That's all they are. ... I think they want to be judge and jury. Like, I'm for gαy marriage. It's none of my business if gαy people want to get married. I'm pro-choice. And I think these Christians, first of all, they're not supposed to judge other people. But they're the most hypocritical judge of people we have in the country. And it bugs the hell out of me. They act like they're Christians. They're not forgiving at all." During a 2011 Martin Luther King, Jr. Day double-header on TNT, Barkley responded to a statement by Dr. King's daughter Bernice by saying, "People try to make it about black and white. [But] he talked about equality for every man, every woman. We have a thing going on now, people discriminating against ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in this country. I love the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity people. God bless the gαy people. They are great people."



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