It doesn't say: "Don't trust princes."
I don't think anyone here considers Trump a savior; there is only one Savior.
How do you know?

Is voting idolatry? the same as offering a grain of incense to false gods?

It could be idolatry depending on how one goes about it. Voting in this country's current state is at best a waste of time and at worst an actual endorsement of hybrid zio-masonic-satanic conservatism. We've lost the political-cultural war many times over.  Every option is being provided by the Church's enemies and there is no good or "worthy" option in my view. I am completely done giving each Republican candidate a free pass. Every single election cycle it becomes more and more obvious that they do not represent Catholics, they have no intention of protecting the Church from Her enemies, and that there are far too many "checks and balances" in place to insure that all "Christian" efforts are relegated to token resistance. There is only one way out of this and it has to be Catholic. Not almost Catholic, not Novus Ordo Catholic, not non-denom Zio-Christian.

Catholic.

I'm only using "savior" in a rhetorical sense. We've had four years of this guy and he's no closer to converting than he was when he first came into office. His "conservative" judges can't manage to take a stand against satanic transsɛҳuąƖs. Gee I wonder why! Oh is that Trump bragging about how long he knew Epstein and joking about his proclivity for young girls? You don't say! Oh, is that our Great White Hope Trump wishing Ghislaine Maxwell luck? Wowee, he must be using his trademark Trump Christian charity again! Oh was that Trump with the rainbow flag?... an Israeli flag?... an entire family sold out to Jєωs? Well anything is better than abortion... let's just all jump like gazelle goyim to the polls!

If you're voting for Trump, you've got to know what you're voting for. You've got to be aware of what his corrupt agenda is. Once you really understand that, there is no reason why anyone here should feel the need to actively promote him. Every election is an meditation on failure and satanic control. I repeat, there are literally no "good" options, only the lesser evils. We have now finally come to the moment when transsɛҳuąƖ rights are to be considered the "lesser evil." I don't want to have anything to do with that.

You may be more optimistic than I am about the current state of our country and its politics. You may truly believe Our Lady's Triumph will occur this way. If you are a well meaning trad, all that I can say is that I respectfully disagree. If nothing else, when that optimism finally wears off at a certain point and you're looking at the same reality I'm looking at and every political angle is overflowing with ravenous wolves, just remember to keep praying for the complete and unadulterated Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. We know it will happen at some point when all hope will appear to have been lost.

Well, I don't want to say "are we there yet?" but... are we there yet?

Either way, you already have. Aren't citizens (even righteous ones) in some way responsible for their country's sins?

So if I'm guilty already, why not wallow in it? No. We do not share the responsibility for the nation's sins if we do not partake in them but we do bear the consequences due from them just the same. Hence, our current state. Hence, why true Catholic leaders are so important because without them there is nothing save Our Lady herself that will keep the punishments of God from scourging the Earth, both the good and the evil. We've become far too comfortable and too content to vote for someone else's party. Our enemies know it and have taken full advantage of it.

Make the Catholic vote a lot tougher to earn.

And for your hard-earned single-issue vote, you get the feast of heretics: one truth mixed with a multitude of lies. This is why even trads can be corralled and swayed by the pillow talk of politicians.

A double-effect in regards to the President overturning Abortion is incredibly weak and removed by several levels of bureaucracy and corruption in this country. Now that we have seen what a majority conservative "Supreme" Court does with tranny normalization, Roe v. Wade might as well be part of the original Constitution. Without a miracle of a magnitude greater than the acts of Milan and Thessalonica combined, it will not happen. This is well beyond either party at this point. You might as well get a converted Democrat as you might a Republican, because both parties have placed themselves to the far left of anything the Church stands for.  

It must also be stated that without a dedication to the whole truth, the one, holy and apostolic Catholic Church, that even if one manages to remove abortion, you will immediately be confronted with those promoted and protected lifestyles so poisonous to the soul as to relegate the vast majority of these innocent lives to Hell the moment they are dragged into the age of reason by parroting their parents' evil ways. Speaking of a collective lesser evil, which is "better": a guaranteed eternity in limbo or a 99% chance of eternity in Hell? Tell me oh great voter!

Don't ever promote Trump like he's some kind of savior. This is the grisly fate that awaits all duped conservatives who think they can tap-dance with the devil. We could stop excusing notorious sinners in their sin and start glorifying God and His Church by demanding that all of His Law be supported and followed. Did Our Lady ask us to vote or to pray? Her Triumph will not be at a ballot box. Sufferage has been given over to worldy men (minority) and women (majority) of both parties to show precisely where the power of God is not.

To recap: Trump cannot repeal abortion even if he wanted to (he doesn't), Trump will absolutely continue the Satanic LGBT sɛҳuąƖ revulsion revolution, and the miracle needed for abortion to be repealed will have to be big enough to wipe the entire political spectrum down to the marrow of its kosher bones anyway. We have to promote the Church in toto, not one issue at a time.

Excellent post.  I am starting to promote a write-in for "Christ the King".

You should check out the posts against those of us who dare to question voting for Trump here.  You see you are anti-Catholic and an enemy of God if you do not!

https://novusordowatch.org/2020/09/morality-of-voting-permissible-lesser-of-two-evils/

Make the Catholic vote a lot tougher to earn.

How?

We've become far too comfortable and too content to vote for someone else's party.

We live in reality, not in a land of hypothetical "what if"s. Catholics are a minority in the U.S.

Our enemies know it and have taken full advantage of it.

So?

How?

By calling out Republicans on their sinful platforms, by not jumping to vote just for the Republican cause, and not throwing money at it. If they really wanted the vote, they'd have to do more and say less... at least in theory. Like PAT317 said, we should have done that earlier. Practically speaking I don't believe we are likely to regain that position again since a general apostasy has set in. There is no process in place to build up tradition faster than it is collapsing and because representative democracy always tends towards the lowest common denominator, conscientious Catholics will be an ever-shrinking minority.

I abstain not out of practical considerations, but on principle alone.

We live in reality, not in a land of hypothetical "what if"s. Catholics are a minority in the U.S.

Let's talk about this wonderful reality. Vote for a bunch of lying godless worms because God's going to work through them any minute now!
The only time in history the world ever had a saintly president was Gabriel Garcia Moreno in Ecuador, who was elected as a devout Catholic. Your hope is unfounded and by trying to force the vote on people you intuitively know to squelch all discussion on how sick and unfit a leader Trump really is.

So?

I don't know, because maybe some people don't want to be willing pawns for the NWO? Our conversation is with God.

Trump is a billionaire, his chances of getting to heaven are less than that of a camel passing through the eye of a needle. Add to that he's been married 3 times so he lives in adultery, loves Jєωs and queers, accepts some abortions, promotes feminism, and who knows what other public sins he is guilty of committing and promoting - I am sure there are plenty.

This coming election we have two choices and only two choices to vote for the leader of our country. We are not voting for a pope.  

It is a choice between voting for one who is at least trying to make this country materially better, or one who is certainly hell bent on this country's immediate destruction.

If you don't vote at all, or vote a "write in", then you may as well vote Biden because write ins and no votes only means more votes for the guy hell bent on destroying our country. This is the situation we are in.

It's not complicated.

The powerful Jєωs, the ones who are actually in charge, have a play book they they use no matter who the president is, but we can at least go down swinging.