Nineveh would be the model we're looking for where the king and the people repented and the city was saved. But it must be both.

Scripture supports both the 'leader-repents-for-their-country' model and the 'just-men-obtain-mercy' model.
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Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy: deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man.

I’m basically giving up on the world.  When even Traditional Catholics are duped into believing that the Jєωs do not control the Presidency and most of Congress, there’s no hope left outside God’s direct intervention.

And if one more Trad uses the term lesser evil, my head is going to explode.

You guys are asleep at the switch and being played for fools.  It’s downright embarrassing.

I’m not voting at all in November, not playing along with the charade that our votes mean a damn thing in this Ziocracy.

Even Bishop Williamson has fallen for this crap, spending too much time with Brit socialites.  There was actually some truth in Pfeiffer’s otherwise-unhinged excoriation of +Williamson ... who, among other things, continues to harbor a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ offender.

Sean Johnson, it's a mortal sin to vote for Biden. 

Re-electing President Trump is at least morally permissible under double effect. A case could be made that it is morally obligatory to vote for President Trump, in order to get more of the 200+ judges on the federal courts (who are the ones who are going to rule on sodomy-related issues anyway, not the President), and reach the critical mass necessary to overturn Roe v Wade. It's not possible to do everything at once, but the pro-life judges will generally be pro-family, pro-natural marriage as well. 4 more years and 200 more federal judges, with possibly 2 or even 3 new Supreme Court Judges chosen by the next President, will have a huge moral impact on America's future.

Sean Johnson, it's a mortal sin to vote for Biden.

Sean is sitting out the election, so he's not voting for Biden.

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I’m basically giving up on the world.  When even Traditional Catholics are duped into believing that the Jєωs do not control the Presidency and most of Congress, there’s no hope left outside God’s direct intervention.

And if one more Trad uses the term lesser evil, my head is going to explode.

You guys are asleep at the switch and being played for fools.  It’s downright embarrassing.

I’m not voting at all in November, not playing along with the charade that our votes mean a damn thing in this Ziocracy.

Even Bishop Williamson has fallen for this crap, spending too much time with Brit socialites.  There was actually some truth in Pfeiffer’s otherwise-unhinged excoriation of +Williamson ... who, among other things, continues to harbor a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ offender.

So you know more than +Williamson and +Vigano.

You and the rest of  the do-nothing trolls sit this one out.

So IF sleepy joe and the commies take over and turn this country into a complete third world sh*t hole, and subject us to the globalist elitists serfdom,I don't want to hear crap out of you people.

You have no clue the damage the commie-dems have in store for us. I have seen it first hand here in NY.

Tell you what, if the biggest fαɢɢօt in the world was running against Deblasio,Cuomo or schumer, I would pull the lever for the queer six days a week and twice on sunday at this point.That's how bad I want these people gone. they have created a complete disaster and living hell  out of NYC and the rest of the state.Especially Deblasio, he needs to be pulled, stretched, disemboweled  and quartered in the middle of Times Square putting each body part to the farthest four corners of the state while his head on a spike on the GW Bridge to set an example to the next wanna be commie-murder who would even think of pulling the garbage that he has wrought upon the good people in this once great city of this state.  He has put my very family in danger.HE HAS GOT TO GO.

Like Biden,hαɾɾιs, Peℓσѕι, Cuomo and every other dem-commie fαɢɢօt trying to destroy this country.
I don't care what it takes.

Now you bastards know where I stand.

You and the rest of  the do-nothing trolls sit this one out.

Yep, I plan on it.  Or I might go and vote for Pat Buchanan (while voting for various local issues and offices).  And by going to the polls in November, you too will "do nothing" ... only difference is that I won't have to sully my conscience by pulling the lever and making a symbolic vote for a degenerate like Donald Trump.

On top of that, especially in New York, your vote will mean absolutely nothing as that state will inevitably go Blue.  So the only thing you're doing is polluting your conscience, such as it is.

I actually believe we'll get 4 more years of Trump.  If we think the rioting is bad now, just wait until Trump gets elected.  They'll probably stretch out the election results due to the mail-in voting to build up the tension (it'll take longer to count those).  And then if Trump gets elected, the country could very well explode into a full-blown cινιℓ ωαr ... which might be exactly what they want at this point.

Republicans/conservatives tend not to riot and loot, so if Joe wins, things would actually calm down.  I don't believe that they want that.