If nothing else, at least vote for law and order.  Trump is at least trying to enforce the laws while the demonrats celebrate chaos.

This is disputed, whether you can vote for a pro-sodomite candidate just because he's otherwise for law and order.  In other words, you're simply glossing over the broader theological question of whether and under what conditions it's permissible to vote for a defective candidate, whether you can separate the concerns within a single candidate.

This is disputed, whether you can vote for a pro-sodomite candidate just because he's otherwise for law and order.  In other words, you're simply glossing over the broader theological question of whether and under what conditions it's permissible to vote for a defective candidate, whether you can separate the concerns within a single candidate.

Not voting is not neutral.  Someone is going to get elected no matter what you do.  So your actions will have some small influence on the outcome whether you like it or not.  There is no way to stay out of it.  Your citizenship makes you responsible.  So the only thing to do is to choose the best possible outcome.  The only reasonable thing for a Catholic to do is to vote for the candidate who is more compatible with Catholic principles.  But whoever you vote for should have at least some small chance of winning.  Even a Libertarian candidate who will probably only get low single digit percentage of votes is ok in my opinion. But write-ins are not viable at all.  Don’t waste everyone’s time with that garbage.

Not voting is not neutral.  Someone is going to get elected no matter what you do.  So your actions will have some small influence on the outcome whether you like it or not.  There is no way to stay out of it.  Your citizenship makes you responsible.  So the only thing to do is to choose the best possible outcome.  The only reasonable thing for a Catholic to do is to vote for the candidate who is more compatible with Catholic principles.  But whoever you vote for should have at least some small chance of winning.  Even a Libertarian candidate who will probably only get low single digit percentage of votes is ok in my opinion. But write-ins are not viable at all.  Don’t waste everyone’s time with that garbage.

You're oversimplying matters.  What if I live in a Blue State where Trump has no chance?  In that case a vote for Trump will not have ANY influence on the outcome?

You're assuming that the vote count is legit.

Why is it OK to vote for a single-digit Libertarian but not OK to write someone in?  That makes zero sense.

You're just emoting here and not applying logical to any of your statements.

You are right Laud, the end doesn't justify the means.. but right now we would have to admit that elections don't matter, even issue by issue, to cement your point.  I'm to the point that they really don't ( almost) . The communists are entrenched. Elections are just bread and circuses and the real war is the spiritual war. Politics is a placating cover. We want politicians to do the spiritual battle for us- haha-no luck there. It's just very hard for me to ignore the unborn under any paradigm. I know even that attitude lends itself to manipulation by the world.

1.  Trump is the most anti-abortion president we've had since Roe v Wade.  Come on.

Is this true or is it normie pro-lifer propaganda? How much money has Trump given to planned parenthood as president? When I tried to look that up the internet search results said he has given them over five hundred million dollars a year in federal government money. Perhaps that is fake news.

So yes, he spoke at the march for life, but he has signed off over a billion dollars to planned parenthood, more money per year than Obama. But do look it up yourself. Perhaps it is fake news, as you never know what you can trust on the internet.

So yes, he spoke at the march for life, but he has signed off over a billion dollars to planned parenthood, more money per year than Obama.

Congress is in charge of the budget; the president only signs laws.  Most of Congress (including many fake republicans) support planned parenthood.  The president isn't able to just veto all budget bills, or else the govt would shut down (which Trump did twice).  ALL BUDGET LAWS from Congress will fund planned parenthood, so what do you expect Trump to do?  He can negotiate but that's about it.  Any funding of immoral practices is the fault of Congress, ultimately.
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Secondly, the entire Federal budget is corrupt.  It funds all kinds of immoral things - sodomy, planned parenthood, LGBT "learning" in schools, birth control, anti-christian programs in schools, divorce courts, etc, etc, etc.
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So if Trump were to de-fund planned parenthood, what's the next immoral issue that would blamed on him?  There's about 1,000 other things in the budget that are against the natural law.  The point is, the country is so corrupt that the fixing of 1 issue doesn't stop evil.  Those that are defeatists, whiners and complainers about America being uncatholic (...can't believe they haven't accepted reality, but that's another topic), will NEVER BE HAPPY and they can point to a 1,000 things as "evidence" that "politician x" is bad. 
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Again, we live in a culture/moral war.  Every politician falls short of sanctity, just like all of us do.  All countries in the modern world are guilty of evil laws.  You have to try to win the battles you can win and take small victories, while realizing that the larger war is (humanly speaking) lost.  Only Our Lady can resurrect the Church, and only she can convert a country.

Almost everyone here is applying Utilitarian reasoning, which is not a Catholic moral system.

If it's wrong to vote for a pro-sodomite candidate, then it's wrong to vote for a pro-sodomite candidate, regardless of whatever good he might otherwise do.

That's how everything slides to the left, both in society and in the Church.  Hey, look, this one bishop believes in the dogma of the Immaculate Conception.  Bring up his cause for canonization now!

Read the sspx article on voting posted by Sean early in this thread.  It isn’t obligatory to vote if both candidates are equally bad.  But that’s a judgment call. Pius XII said that decision is on our conscience.  I think it is clear that Trump is a better candidate and significantly better than the demonrats candidate.  If you think the difference between Trump and Biden/hαɾɾιs is insignificant then you can refrain from voting.  They say you are obligated to vote only if there is a Catholic candidate.  But I don’t think that’s right.  Suppose Trump is running against Joe Stalin.  Stalin is campaigning on the promise that he will put 30 million rural conservatives to death if elected.  But Trump is pro fag like 99.9% of all political candidates nowadays.  So it’s ok for you not to vote?  I’m calling that BS.  We are responsible for the outcome of this election whether we like it or not.  We have to do the best we can under the circuмstances.