And what happened while the commie, black racist, babykilling, fag-enabler Obama was in office for eight years? where was your catholic conscience about not voting the "lesser of two evils" then? Did a real "godly" man step up for you to coose and not worry about "sinning" in doing so? No and you know it.

This is not about "sin", this is about survival. Obama desecrated everything that this country and Christianity stands for he possibly could and Hilliary was intent on furthering that agenda until the very end. until FINALLY the NORMAL people in this country had enough and put the outsider Trump in play. And THEY were furious. And THEY have for four years done EVERYTHING to get him out, including unleash a BS virus and now a virtual race war and borderline Christian pogrom.

You can rationale all you want about "sin" or double effect you want. These people, if elected, are coming for YOU and everything you have and believe in. It's that simple. This is a war, you HAVE to choose.

What happened while Obama was in office?

Answer: Pretty much the same thing as is happening while Trump is in office, except that the country is in worse shape today with Trump in office than while Obama was in.

We lost our freedoms under Trump; the country is in chaos under Trump.

Wake up: Republicrats and Democans are the problem.

Voting for either is ignorant, and perpetuates (and worsens) the problem.

They are on the same team.

That's a lie.  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-california-idUSKBN22W04O

Trump didn't lock down.  It was the governors.  And when Trump tried to open things up the governors threatened to sue.  So it is 100% on the governors.

Trump was the first to lock down travel between China and the US and began adding countries day by day. It was a pattern set, and the governors would not have had any push to lock down in ridiculous ways unless it came from the higher ups. Scare tactics abounded including having Chrysler build ventilators, killing machines for Covid, a sham if I ever heard one. They only needed a few months to tip the country into bankruptcy and melt down for their NWO.  Only months later did Trump start talking about opening up the country even though he knew full well that Covid wasn't killing hundreds of thousands or millions much earlier. Nor does a savvy businessman print money to save the economy and thereby insuring ultimate collapse. Switzerland and other countries early on said they'd have zero lock downs and they fared quite well. If some governments knew it'd be fine, Trump knew. But Trump used Fauci to give cover and take the heat. And Fauci is still spilling verbal sewage and not in jail. And even though most wouldn't see it, Trump has always been pro gαy. He's certainly pro vaccine. People need to get over hero worship and see past the fog of pretense coming out of the politics that deflected many from realizing what was really happening.    

What happened while Obama was in office?

Answer: Pretty much the same thing as is happening while Trump is in office, except that the country is in worse shape today with Trump in office than while Obama was in.

We lost our freedoms under Trump; the country is in chaos under Trump.

Wake up: Republicrats and Democans are the problem.

Voting for either is ignorant, and perpetuates (and worsens) the problem.

They are on the same team.

I agree that both parties are a big part of the problem, but Trump is nominally a Republican. His own party hates him. How do you reconcile that with him being part of the conspiracy?

They pretend to hate him because they know that will help him win because nobody trusts the media or the political parties anymore. They think they are all pedophiles and devil worshipers. So by casting Trump as an outsider, he won.

This is the only reasonable answer for all that has transpired.

This is the only reasonable answer for all that has transpired.

Trump pretends to hate the swamp and the swamp pretends to hate Trump. You don't make it in Jєω York real estate to the point of being a billionaire without being a part of the swamp.

Many of you are trying to apply catholic principles (voting) to an uncatholic situation (99% of those in govt).  Abstain from voting if you want, but God gave us common sense to judge things on a practical level, if catholic principles don't/can't apply.  As Alaric said, we're living in a psuedo-war, a preliminary war, a cultural war.  Wartime changes your perspective from idealism (normal morality) to practical (doing the best with what you have).  You choose the best candidate, ...or...you choose AGAINST the worst candidate.  
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The wartime/common sense principles to judge candidates are:
1) Access to church
2) Access to weapons
3) Rule of Law and stopping anarchy in the streets
4) Protections of food from national shortages
5) Promotion of peace instead of war; bringing home troops
6) Protection of borders
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The lines are clear between who has supported the above and who hasn't.  Don't let catholic principles get in the way of common sense.  Wartime morality is different from peaceful morality.

Of your list, Trump has only succeeded in #2.

Of your list, Trump has only succeeded in #2.

That list applies to Trump/many (but not all) Republicans (ie Red State governors).
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Trump can’t affect all of those 6 in equal ways, because there’s a thing called “states rights” which still exist, and the idea that Trump can rule by executive order on anything is so retardedly wrong, I can’t believe I have to say it.