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More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
« on: June 09, 2017, 11:07:56 AM »
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  • If you could name just ONE saint that is fundamental to the Traditional Catholic movement, who would it be?

    Either St. Athanasius or St. Pius V, right?

    St. Pius V, the only Pope besides St. Pius X canonized during the past 500 years, was the author of the famous Papal Bull, Quo Primum, which gave permission and legitimacy for priests and Faithful to use the Tridentine Mass without scruple FOR ALL TIME. (I think the Holy Ghost was involved in the creation of Quo Primum, because God knew ahead of time what we'd be going through after 1970.)

    But today I find out that "St. Pius V" is one of the books being discontinued at the "new" TAN Books. 


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    We received your recent order on www.tansotres.com. Unfortunately St. Pius the V is out of stock and not available for backorder as we will not have it in for some time. I apologize our website was incorrectly labeled and the book should not have been available for order. 

    We will credit the card back the amount form the order. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. 
    Best Regards,
    Paul

    Note that THIS is how TAN deals with books they no longer intend to carry. "Not have it in for some time" means they have no plans to re-publish the book -- which pretty much means "never" for availability. 

    It's quite sad that such an important Traditional Catholic book publisher is slowly falling to pieces, just like the SSPX.

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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 11:23:20 AM »
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  • Yeah, Tan has/is definitely fallen/falling by the wayside.
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    But are you sure that this is how they deal with things that they're really discontinuing?  Because the sense of what they said is not a sense of discontinuation at all.  The sense of it is that they don't know if/when it'll be back in stock.  And for anyone whose every worked with material inventory, that is far from synonymous with discontinuation.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 12:16:59 PM »
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  • They were bought by a Protestant company some time ago.  The parent company is Goodwill Publishers.  A group of companies that sell "inspirational books". 

    Perhaps the Pius V book didn't sell well and it is just a pragmatic business decision on their part.

    Maybe someone will buy the copyright and self-publish.

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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 12:53:13 PM »
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  • Yeah, Tan has/is definitely fallen/falling by the wayside.
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    But are you sure that this is how they deal with things that they're really discontinuing?  Because the sense of what they said is not a sense of discontinuation at all.  The sense of it is that they don't know if/when it'll be back in stock.  And for anyone whose every worked with material inventory, that is far from synonymous with discontinuation.
    I didn't get that meaning from the words themselves. I am reading a lot into it, since I am intimately familiar with the company, the company that bought them, their business model, the details of the buyout in 2009, etc. 
    I'm also looking at the big picture, including their recent history (other books which have been discontinued).
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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 06:25:13 PM »
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  • Well, he's anti-semitic don't you know?

    https://gloria.tv/article/WLYgGkPwH7AN2tfLRLMXmEYMS


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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 10:02:54 PM »
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  • And Schönborn is a "Cardinal" no less.  It sounds like he thinks that he himself is more saintly than Pius V if he thinks he's qualified to vilify a sainted Pope.

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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 12:19:29 AM »
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  • St. Pius V, the only Pope besides St. Pius X canonized during the past 500 years, ...
    What about Saint John Paul II, the Great?
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    Which reminds me: where is Poche? 
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    If you could name just ONE saint that is fundamental to the Traditional Catholic movement, who would it be?

    Either St. Athanasius or St. Pius V, right?
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    Saint Philomena! 
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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 05:38:20 PM »
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  • But today I find out that "St. Pius V" is one of the books being discontinued at the "new" TAN Books.
    Are you referring to St. Pius V: 1566-1572: His Life, Times, Virtues and Miracles in the Aftermath of the Protestant Revolt with a foreword by Cdl. Ottaviani?
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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 05:51:00 PM »
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  • Are you referring to St. Pius V: 1566-1572: His Life, Times, Virtues and Miracles in the Aftermath of the Protestant Revolt with a foreword by Cdl. Ottaviani?
    One interesting fact I learned about Pope St. Pius V in that book is that he basically Poland by intransigently refusing to grant an annulment to the Polish king, who, like Henry VIII, could not have a male heir:
    Quote from: ch. 4 Protestantism & European Diplomacy
    The King of Poland was pressing the Holy See for a dissolution of his marriage on a pretext not unlike that of Henry VIII's, namely, that the queen could not bear him a son and he had to have an heir. Several Polish Bishops with ambitious aims and infected by Protestantism, instead of restraining the king were, "in the interests of the State," backing him up. The king's family and court, too, were leaning towards the unorthodox teachings of the Socinians1 at that time being persuasively propagated in Poland. Perceiving the danger of a national schism on a scale such as that of England, Pius V sent Cardinal Commendone to the Polish king who, however, tried by every means to win the Cardinal over to his side. Instead, the experienced Legate, together with the few Bishops that had remained faithful, prevailed upon the others to reaffirm their orthodoxy and hold a council, at which Cardinal Commendone spoke so convincingly of the dissensions and persecutions suffered in England as to persuade them against bringing about a similar break with Rome.

    Shaken but unconverted, the king feigned conviction. But no sooner had the Legate left the country than he began repeating his requests for the Holy See to allow introduction of Protestant practices such as a married clergy, Communion under two kinds and freedom for religious sectaries to practice and propagate their several cults. The king's requests were not really made in the hope of obtaining them, as he claimed, for the good of the people, but rather with the design of making the Pope appear unreasonably intransigent by his inevitable refusals, thus gaining popular favor for himself and for the dissolution of his marriage.

    Realizing this, Pope Pius intervened directly by letter to those he knew were abetting the king, but without being aware that the Archbishop of Gneszno, chief among them, had meanwhile secretly apostatized.

    Again Pius sent Cardinal Commendone to Poland, where this time he found support in the Jesuits who had come into the country to help remedy things; and enough influence was brought to bear upon clergy and people to save the nation from general schism and apostasy. The papal Legate did not leave Poland before getting an official declaration from the king, whose wife had meanwhile died, that he would remain faithful to the religion of his fathers.
    Amazing, saintly pope!
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    Re: More evidence TAN Books no longer Traditional Catholic
    « Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 03:13:09 PM »
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  • Is Loreto more traditional than TAN?
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