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Moms who don't homeschool
« on: October 02, 2018, 01:27:39 PM »
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  • To all those mothers who "can't homeschool" (a malady which is nebulous, seldom adequately explained, and usually self-diagnosed) and send their kids to a private school, co-op, or even worse, public school:


    I am genuinely curious, what do you DO all day long while your husband is at work?

    If my wife didn't have to homeschool our children, I think she would start 1 or 2 home businesses, and our house would be so clean it would rival the middle class DINK (double-income-no-kids) homes in the suburbs. She would probably want to find a part time job and/or some volunteer work to productively spend all her free time.

    ...and that's right now, while we're smack in the middle of child-bearing years, with children under 4 around. When the kids stop coming, we'd have a plethora of free time rivaled only by those who are single!

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 01:44:09 PM »
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  • What works for your family might not work for others. God bless.


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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 01:48:55 PM »
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  • I was thinking the same thing.   I know a mom who has a degree in teaching.  After husband died stopped homeschooling to put her 7 children in public school.   She cries poor and yet she goes out to lunch.  Then there is girls night out, rock concerts, dinners with non Catholic friends.   Who is watching these children.?  She uses foul language on Facebook.  One of her daughters corrected her on line.  I felt sorry for the girl. A decent Mother would put her children first. 
    And she teaches Catechism on Sunday's.  



    Here I am with zero children.  




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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 01:51:36 PM »
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    To all those mothers who "can't homeschool" (a malady which is nebulous, seldom adequately explained, and usually self-diagnosed)
    ? what ?  So mothers who don't homeschool have to explain why they don't or can't?  Why does it matter, as long as the children receive a catholic education?  Homeschooling has its pros/cons. 

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 02:05:28 PM »
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  • Then there was another trad family.  I became friendly with a woman and her grandchildren. The mother (daughter in law)was home all day but rarely interacted with her children. 
    She was jealous of me big when I started to assist the grandmother.  
    She then sent her children off Protestant private Christian school.   

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 02:10:52 PM »
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  • ? what ?  So mothers who don't homeschool have to explain why they don't or can't?  Why does it matter, as long as the children receive a catholic education?  Homeschooling has its pros/cons.


    1. Because the proper education of one's children, including intellectual and spiritual formation, is PRIMARILY the responsibility of the parents. Baby Boomers and successive generations delegating this duty en masse to Government public schools doesn't change this fact.

    2. Strictly speaking it doesn't matter as long as the children are receiving a Catholic formation. But many "I can't homeschool" moms are also "I can't afford private school" moms, and hence they send their children to government indoctrination camps public schools.

    3. If a family happens to live close to one of the many SSPX private schools (for example), that's fine I guess, but my question remains: what do these moms (who avail themselves of private or public schools) do with all their resulting free time and/or money? They must have a ton of time to spend (or waste!) because I know for a fact how much time home schooling takes.

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 02:43:39 PM »
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  • So, we send our kids to school. *let the public flogging begin*

    Why? Well, that’s our reasons as a family. 


    I have 3 kids (5,3,17 months) when the oldest is at school I take the other two in play dates, and yesterday it just so happens I met a friend of mine in a cute little town for coffee, and shopping. When my middle is in school I spend those mornings with our 17 month old for some quality time, and some good snuggles. My house is cleaner then any moms house I know. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. I have my daily chores, cooking, and I go to a mom workout group. When the kids come home we have home work, and extra studies for them. The school isn’t responsible for their whole learning we are... 

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 02:55:04 PM »
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  • Any USA catholic who sends their kids to public schools in this day and age, isn’t catholic and certainty isn’t a trad.  Assuming we are comparing homeschool vs private sspx/trad school then...

    As far as money goes it’s probably cheaper to homeschool so those that don’t, aren’t saving $ by paying for an sspx/private school.  But...some private schools are free (or tuition is provided by donors) so that’s a factor. 

    It also probably takes less time to homeschool than regular school, if you factor into commute times, homework time after school and all the other wasted time that a child spends on activities which a homeschool can’t provide (school plays, field trips, etc).  

    It’s much more efficient to homeschool, and pick up teaching where you left off the previous day when you can adjust teaching to one student vs 10 or 20.  

    So, obviously, if parents aren’t saving time or money by sending their children to private schools, why are they doing it?  Because either 1) the mother doesn’t have the confidence or patience to teach, 2) the mother isn’t intellectually inclined enough, 3) the mother isn’t organized enough, 4) don’t know enough about homeschooling or how it works.  5) Don’t have a network of support in the homeschooling community.

    Homeschooling is like running a business.  Gotta be organized, disciplined and able to solve problems on your own.  And MOTIVATED EVERY DAY.  Not everyone can do it, even if they want to.  Not everyone has the personality.  

    Even 100s years ago, when private schools weren’t as available, homeschooling was rare.  Most kids who grew up on farms had minimal schooling.  Even if the town had a schoolhouse, kids had a few years to learn the basics, at most.  Homeschooling as it is now, especially with the breakdown of the nuclear family and with couples not having the advantage of living close to relatives, is a luxury because it falls on one person, the mother, to make it work.  


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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #8 on: October 02, 2018, 03:08:56 PM »
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  • P.s.  Many US states have very strict homeschool laws which makes it extremely difficult to do, unless you're a lawyer who can navigate the laws and figure out how to comply with regulations.  Even if you figure out how to do it, the costs and paperwork make it an awful experience.

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 03:22:09 PM »
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  • this is true, Pax.  AZ is the most lenient of all states.  A family from Germany came to AZ to homeschool some years ago.  We did and Thank God we could do it.  Some homeschool programs are made/set-up in such a way that a parent can work part-time.

    Also we knew of a family where both worked in the hospital.  They homeschooled their children around the clock and year round.  It was not unusual for a parent to come home at 10 pm, homeschool and then go to bed by midnight.

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #10 on: October 02, 2018, 03:36:34 PM »
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  • I don’t think it’s fair to say your aren’t Catholic if you do this, or don’t do that.

    My five year old is firm in her faith, and knows what/why/how we believe. My 3 year old is in a church preschool which is fantastic. She and I needed this help because God knows she wasn’t listening to me on anything. It’s helped our relationship. When they are in school I’m able to do things, or errands for my husband. Plus, make sure I’m keeping up on being the best, wife and mother I can be.


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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #11 on: October 02, 2018, 03:39:19 PM »
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  • Any USA catholic who sends their kids to public schools in this day and age, isn’t catholic and certainty isn’t a trad.

    Catholics are sinners. Nobody is not a Catholic just because he or she is a sinner. Only exceptions: The sin is apostasy, heresy, or schism.

    Redefining what a Catholic is, you are a heretic.

    I suggest you look up the dogma in the decrees of the Council of Trent which condemns you as an exercise of expiation, and then repent.


    Besides:
    1.) Who are you to define whether it is a sin or not to send kids to public schools in the U.S. these days?
    2.) Parents have a god-given natural right to care for their children in the way they judge appropriate.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #12 on: October 02, 2018, 03:51:38 PM »
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  • Also, I’d like to add my husband works hard for everything we have, but that doesn’t mean we can afford private schools for all three kids. If we have up my workout group, and one my mom play date a week that wouldn’t change or help that. It also wouldn’t help if we added canceling his gym membership, or date nights. Got a lot of sanctimoms/dad’s here.

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    Re: Moms who don't homeschool
    « Reply #13 on: October 02, 2018, 04:03:29 PM »
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    1.) Who are you to define whether it is a sin or not to send kids to public schools in the U.S. these days?
    2.) Parents have a god-given natural right to care for their children in the way they judge appropriate.


    The Church cannot approve schools which exclude religion from the curriculum, both because religion is the most important subject in education, and because she contends that even secular education is not possible in its best form unless religion be made the central, vitalizing, and co-ordinating factor in the life of the child. The Church, sometimes, tolerates schools in which religion is not taught, and permits Catholic children to attend them, when the circuмstances are such as to leave no alternative, and when due precautions are taken to supply by other means the religious training which such schools do not give. She reserves the right to judge whether this be the case, and, if her judgment is unfavourable, claims the right to forbid attendance"
    --(Letter of Gregory XVI to Irish Bishops, 1831).


    •"…Those parents who allow their children to frequent schools where it is impossible to avoid the loss of souls… according to Catholic moral teaching, such parents, should they persist in their attitude, cannot receive absolution in the Sacrament of Penance."
    --Instructions Of The Holy Office To The Bishops Of The U.S., Pope Pius IX, 1875


    •“It is, then, incuмbent on parents to strain every nerve to ward off such an outrage, and to strive manfully to have and to hold exclusive authority to direct the education of their offspring, as is fitting, in a Christian manner, and first and foremost to keep them away from schools where there is risk of their drinking in the poison of impiety
    --Sapientiae Christianae, Pope Leo XIII, 1890 Pope


    •“First, Catholics should not choose mixed schools but have their own schools especially for children. They should choose excellent and reputable teachers for them. For an education in which religion is altered or non-existent is a very dangerous education
    --Militantis Ecclesiae, Pope Leo XIII, 1897

    •“Obviously the need of this Christian instruction is accentuated by the decline of our times and morals. It is even more demanded by the existence of those public schools, lacking all religion, where everything holy is ridiculed and scorned. There both teachers’ lips and students’ ears are inclined to godlessness. We are referring to those schools which are unjustly called neutral or lay. In reality, they are nothing more than the stronghold of the powers of darkness.”
    --Editae Saepe,** Pope St. Pius X, **1910

    •"Duty of Attending Only Catholic Schools.
    Catholic children may not attend non-Catholic, neutral, or mixed-schools, that is, those which are open also to non-Catholics, and it pertains exclusively to the Ordinary of the place to decide, in accordance with instructions of the Holy See, under what circuмstances and with what precautions against the danger of perversion, attendance at such schools may be tolerated.
    --1917 code of Canon Law(Canon 1374)

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