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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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« Reply #1230 on: September 22, 2012, 12:19:19 PM »
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  • The wearing of trousers for women comes from left-wing feminism and from the Jєωιѕн fashion industry to create a 'masculinized' image for women which is unnatural.

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    « Reply #1231 on: September 22, 2012, 12:32:33 PM »
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    Spiritus, the reason I've asked here is because I just want an idea of what other women specifically wear themselves and what men view as modest when seeing a woman. Reading a list of guidelines and seeing them modeled nowhere is very frustrating. Women who grew up traditional or have been at this longer than me are used to seeing living models of modesty. I have anxiety because I need to show sincere repentance for past dress, but I cannot reasonably walk around dressed like I just stepped out of a time machine without drawing an excessive amount of attention to myself. I understand it gets annoying, I thought maybe pictures would help, but maybe I just need to trust myself. It sounds stupid, but it's important to me because of my past. I am not trying to be annoying.


    Well, I'm not suggesting that you're being annoying, PW. I am just saying that a Traditional priest will be able to give you proper guidelines on modest dress, more-so than laypeople will be able to.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #1232 on: September 22, 2012, 02:50:19 PM »
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    The wearing of trousers for women comes from left-wing feminism and from the Jєωιѕн fashion industry to create a 'masculinized' image for women which is unnatural.

    As does shorter hair.

    Thing is, a thing can still be objectively not sinful regardless of who encouraged it and why.

    The Jews are not infallible!

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    « Reply #1233 on: September 22, 2012, 04:41:42 PM »
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    The wearing of trousers for women comes from left-wing feminism and from the Jєωιѕн fashion industry to create a 'masculinized' image for women which is unnatural.

    As does shorter hair.

    Thing is, a thing can still be objectively not sinful regardless of who encouraged it and why.

    The Jews are not infallible!


    Actually, I have very long hair and a beard for the very reason that short hair is an innovation of freemasons and pagans.  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #1234 on: September 22, 2012, 05:16:22 PM »
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    The wearing of trousers for women comes from left-wing feminism and from the Jєωιѕн fashion industry to create a 'masculinized' image for women which is unnatural.


    I think now, the way they are designed, the bigger problem with pants is that they are too revealing on women.  



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    As does shorter hair.

    Thing is, a thing can still be objectively not sinful regardless of who encouraged it and why.


    Isn't there a biblical reference against women with short hair?  Or am I just imagining that?



    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25


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    « Reply #1235 on: September 22, 2012, 05:25:30 PM »
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    ...

    Isn't there a biblical reference against women with short hair?  Or am I just imagining that?





    Yes, PW, there is a verse from the Bible.
    Women should have long hair.

    Read Saint Paul: I Corinthians. 11. 15:
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    But if a woman nourish her hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering.

    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
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    « Reply #1236 on: September 22, 2012, 05:46:44 PM »
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  • Women should have long hair.

    Read Saint Paul: I Corinthians. 11. 1-15:
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    Be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me: and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.
    For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man. For the man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man. Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.
    But yet neither is the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, so also is the man by the woman: but all things of God. You yourselves judge: doth it become a woman, to pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that a man indeed, if he nourish his hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman nourish her hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering.
    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

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    « Reply #1237 on: September 22, 2012, 07:22:25 PM »
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    As does shorter hair.

    Thing is, a thing can still be objectively not sinful regardless of who encouraged it and why.

    The Jews are not infallible!


    Who here supports short hair? I support women with long hair.


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    « Reply #1238 on: September 22, 2012, 07:23:44 PM »
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    Actually, I have very long hair and a beard for the very reason that short hair is an innovation of freemasons and pagans.


    No it just makes you look like an idiotic leftist hippie.

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    « Reply #1239 on: September 22, 2012, 09:42:40 PM »
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    Actually, I have very long hair and a beard for the very reason that short hair is an innovation of freemasons and pagans.


    No it just makes you look like an idiotic leftist hippie.


    You must hate pictures of The Son of God.

    Do you appreciate the work the woman did on that Fresco in Italy or Spain or wherever it was?  

    Christ with a flat top, clean shaven.  That's the American way to look at God!
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #1240 on: September 22, 2012, 09:45:23 PM »
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    Christ with a flat top, clean shaven.  That's the American way to look at God!


    Hmm well it is well known that the leftists in the 60's were the ones with the beards and long hair while the ones on the Right were the ones who had short hair and were clean shaven.


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    « Reply #1241 on: September 22, 2012, 09:56:21 PM »
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    Christ with a flat top, clean shaven.  That's the American way to look at God!


    Hmm well it is well known that the leftists in the 60's were the ones with the beards and long hair while the ones on the Right were the ones who had short hair and were clean shaven.


    Because the history of the world hinges on the political fashion of the 1960's.

    I seem to remember reading about how modernists in the 50's depicted Christ with a flat top, as a way of fitting him into society.

    I do have long hair and a beard.  Such was the fashion of Christian men, for longer than has been "traditional" to have short hair.  Short hair really is an innovation of masons and is culturally pagan.  Fact.  

    Short hair isn't evil, of course.  Just to illustrate a point.  Go ahead and let the thumb-downs fly, I've done my weekly posting.  Back to FE.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #1242 on: September 22, 2012, 09:59:28 PM »
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    Because the history of the world hinges on the political fashion of the 1960's.

    I seem to remember reading about how modernists in the 50's depicted Christ with a flat top, as a way of fitting him into society.

    I do have long hair and a beard.  Such was the fashion of Christian men, for longer than has been "traditional" to have short hair.  Short hair really is an innovation of masons and is culturally pagan.  Fact.  

    Short hair isn't evil, of course.  Just to illustrate a point.  Go ahead and let the thumb-downs fly, I've done my weekly posting.  Back to FE.


    Long hair is pagan as well if you look at the Germanic barbarians.

    And I don't thumb down anyone or ignore anyone by the way but go ahead and go back to FE if that's what you want. By the way I wasn't talking about a flat-top I was talking about 'short hair' as in a regular haircut.

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    « Reply #1243 on: September 23, 2012, 06:27:12 AM »
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    As does shorter hair.

    Thing is, a thing can still be objectively not sinful regardless of who encouraged it and why.

    The Jews are not infallible!


    Who here supports short hair? I support women with long hair.

    Short hair on women never gets condemned as a dangerous trend, except by Protestants.

    Not that I think it should be (my hair is fairly short), just that it seems strange that it doesn't get condemned.

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    « Reply #1244 on: September 23, 2012, 07:03:37 AM »
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    Clare, do you like pants for the comfort?

    Who says I "like" them? I just don't disapprove of them. Do I "like" them? I'm indifferent. As long as they're feminine and modest (which is possible), then I see nothing wrong with wearing them.
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    I don't miss jeans or slacks at all.  

    Neither do I.

    I wear long skirts most of the time. One of which covers my ankles, and I keep standing on the hem when going upstairs or standing up from sitting!

    I wear tracksuit trousers (with a tunic over) for physiotherapy, and I wear pyjamas at night. Apart from that I wear long skirts.