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Offline Telesphorus

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« Reply #1170 on: September 18, 2012, 11:07:55 AM »
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    • St. Michael's not a woman.
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    « Reply #1171 on: September 18, 2012, 01:16:11 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.
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    Offline Loriann

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    « Reply #1172 on: September 18, 2012, 01:25:07 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL
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    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #1173 on: September 18, 2012, 01:29:32 PM »
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    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL


    Saint means Holy.  So you have churches dedicated to St. Saviour.  It means Holy Saviour.
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    « Reply #1174 on: September 18, 2012, 01:35:08 PM »
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    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL


    Saint means Holy.  So you have churches dedicated to St. Saviour.  It means Holy Saviour.


    If you dress immodestly inside the house don't look at a mirror. :laugh1:
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    « Reply #1175 on: September 18, 2012, 01:37:57 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL
     :dancing-banana:


    Saints are all who are in Heaven, other than God, I believe.  Technically, Saint Michael is neither male or female but a pure spirit.  I think I'm right on that.  But he is given a male's name and probably has appeared as a male.  God is pure Spirit and He is rightly referred to always in the masculine gender as God is refferred to "Father" and "Son" and the Holy Ghost is referred to by Jesus as "He".  
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    « Reply #1176 on: September 18, 2012, 03:45:10 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Angels don't really wear shorts, though.
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    « Reply #1177 on: September 18, 2012, 03:57:48 PM »
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    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL


    Saint means Holy.  So you have churches dedicated to St. Saviour.  It means Holy Saviour.


    Actually Saint means a resident soul of Heaven, known or unknown.  Angels were creatures of God, created by God...dead people do not become "angels" as many say.  Saint Michael is an enigma. Blame the English, lol
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    « Reply #1178 on: September 18, 2012, 04:00:09 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Angels don't really wear shorts, though.

    I always wonder about angels unaware--and whether people who magically appear sometimes are angels.
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    « Reply #1179 on: September 18, 2012, 04:06:38 PM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Well St Michael has always been a riddle--how can an Archangel be a saint, by definition, LOL
     :dancing-banana:


    Saints are all who are in Heaven, other than God, I believe.  Technically, Saint Michael is neither male or female but a pure spirit.  I think I'm right on that.  But he is given a male's name and probably has appeared as a male.  God is pure Spirit and He is rightly referred to always in the masculine gender as God is refferred to "Father" and "Son" and the Holy Ghost is referred to by Jesus as "He".  


    1st Sphere
     
    Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones
     
    2nd Sphere
     
    Dominions, Virtues, Powers
     
    3rd Sphere
     
    Principalities, Archangels, Angels
    El ia actually the name of God, so Gabri el means messenger of God. Micha el means One who is Like God, and he is the Arch angel, chief of them all in Hebrew tradition.  
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    « Reply #1180 on: September 18, 2012, 08:54:50 PM »
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    • Perhaps the advice on this link will help people to understand the requirements of true modesty:

    http://www.salvemariaregina.info/Modesty.html
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    « Reply #1181 on: September 18, 2012, 11:04:44 PM »
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    Good to mention men's clothing too.

    It could be 20 degrees out and my neighbor feels the need to stand out on his balcony shirtless.

    I don't believe it's the same thing for men, we're allowed to be shirtless, we don't have breasts.
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    « Reply #1182 on: September 19, 2012, 08:33:24 AM »
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    St. Michael's not a woman.


    Sede said that shorts were immodest and should be worn by no one, man, woman, or child.

    Ok, he didn't mention angels!

    Anyhow, the Church appears to have no objection to depicting an angel appearing as a man, dressed, what could be regarded as improperly.


    Angels don't really wear shorts, though.

    Indeed.

    But surely a short skirt is even less modest than shorts, and we are exposed to images of an angel appearing as a man wearing what is, basically, a short skirt.

    If it's sinful for actual men to dress thus, or in shorts, then why is it ok to show images of what to all appearances looks like a man dressed the same?

    (I don't think it is per se sinful, but if one were to follow Sede's rules, one would have to find it so.)
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    « Reply #1183 on: September 19, 2012, 08:46:29 AM »
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    Perhaps the advice on this link will help people to understand the requirements of true modesty:

    http://www.salvemariaregina.info/Modesty.html


    Good info, but nothing against men/shorts and nowhere does it mandate womne=dress down to the floor.......we are not amish.......
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    « Reply #1184 on: September 19, 2012, 08:47:19 AM »
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    Good to mention men's clothing too.

    It could be 20 degrees out and my neighbor feels the need to stand out on his balcony shirtless.

    I don't believe it's the same thing for men, we're allowed to be shirtless, we don't have breasts.


    not the point, about good taste..rarely do I go shirtless and never in public, its inappropriate.....
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