Author Topic: Modesty and how to dress (Read 33159 times)

clare · « **Reply #145 on:** September 25, 2010, 04:41:55 PM »

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Humiliations properly received lead to humility.

Indeed. but it would defeat the object wouldn't it? It would just prove that I was talking nonsense. And, while it may help me to be humble, it still wouldn't convince them or me that women shouldn't wear trousers!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #146 on:** September 25, 2010, 04:42:25 PM »

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It's how you wear them. I have never been particularly elegant, and I think that if I had tried to claim to be more womanly in a skirt than all the other more fashionable and, yes, feminine women in the office who wore trousers, there would have been some politely stifled chuckles!

It's not about you versus them. It's about pants versus skirts.

"In the office"

Doesn't exactly sound like a bastion of femininity.

clare · « **Reply #147 on:** September 26, 2010, 04:08:56 AM »

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It's how you wear them. I have never been particularly elegant, and I think that if I had tried to claim to be more womanly in a skirt than all the other more fashionable and, yes, feminine women in the office who wore trousers, there would have been some politely stifled chuckles!

It's not about you versus them.

My point is that I would hardly have been regarded as a more feminine and womanly specimen than the other women in the office who wore trousers. See, they wore make-up too and had nice hair. I don't, and my hair is a law unto itself. A skirt doesn't make me more elegant and ladylike!

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It's about pants versus skirts.

I don't see an opposition between them. Most women who wear trousers also wear skirts. Usually quite short ones though.

Interestingly, as I recall from my time when I worked in an office, there were a couple of women who always wore trousers. They were Muslims, and they wore veils as well. Not feminists!

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"In the office"

Doesn't exactly sound like a bastion of femininity.

Better than "On the building site"!

clare · « **Reply #148 on:** September 26, 2010, 09:51:16 AM »

I was reflecting on the importance of feminity to get a woman to Heaven, and I remembered a saint I had read about years ago.

St Wilgefortis. Her dad wanted her to marry. She didn't want to marry, as she had made a vow of chastity. She prayed to be made repulsive, and her prayer was answered: She grew a beard!

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #149 on:** September 26, 2010, 10:22:20 PM »

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Although, obviously, if the issue crops up, I will argue about it, but I won't raise it by wearing trousers and inviting bother.

It sounds contradicting but I will leave it as that...

It isn't contradictory.

How come? You don't practice what you preach. Do you still believe it's not contradictory?

Our Lady had told us that certain fashion would offend God. Considering what pants do to most women nowadays, don't you think it's high time to cease defending something that's offending Him? I don't know until when you'd come to your senses but one thing is certain. It is an occasion of sin to both men and women. For men - because it can lead to impurity. For women - because it can lead them to false notion of equality with men. And if our Catechism teaches us to flee any occasion of sin, why not do the same here? I don't know what's keeping you adamant against something that's truly Catholic and simple logic.

As both of us are from the Society camp, it's not good to see that we're having a debate here. It hurts but this is the sad fact.

So long, may Our Lady enlighten you.