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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Seraphina on August 07, 2025, 06:30:42 PM
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Listen carefully. If some races are better than others, then you must believe in Evolution.
https://youtu.be/SgW5yu_Wphg?si=f8BkqBDscbnxXHSg
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I like Fr. DeSaye, will give it a listen.
To your commentary: a race being more or less intelligent than other races, physically stronger or weaker, shorter or taller, more or less physically attractive, more able to survive in hot or cold climates, more or less prone to aggression, etc., etc., does not in any way contradict the fact that their souls are created in the image and likeness of God, and that by converting to the True Faith and living holy lives they may one day attain eternal salvation :incense:
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I like Fr. DeSaye, will give it a listen.
To your commentary: a race being more or less intelligent than other races, physically stronger or weaker, shorter or taller, more or less physically attractive, more able to survive in hot or cold climates, more or less prone to aggression, etc., etc., does not in any way contradict the fact that their souls are created in the image and likeness of God, and that by converting to the True Faith and living holy lives they may one day attain eternal salvation :incense:
You are correct. White men can’t play basketball, right? Which race wins the prizes in mathematics?
Is there a race for which Christ died more than others? And if there were, which of us would have reason to boast or to complain? Not one!
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You are correct. White men can’t play basketball, right? Which race wins the prizes in mathematics?
Is there a race for which Christ died more than others? And if there were, which of us would have reason to boast or to complain? Not one!
White men certainly can play basketball. Basketball was actually invented by a white man. And while I understand your questions were meant to be rhetorical, they have already been answered, at least implicitly, in my first comment. So they did not need to be asked
However, I don't fail to notice that your first question is a not-so-subtle "jab" at so-called "white supremacy", with blacks making up the majority of professional basketball players..the second question as well, with most likely Asians making up the majority of mathematical competition winners.
So I really must ask, why do you take offense at white people seeking to live in a racially homogeneous community or, more preferably, country..and discussing that, and taking steps accomplish that goal? You know, the way it had been mostly everywhere, until the 20th century? Why have I never seen you say something that can be construed as explicitly pro-white, while all the while you seem to enjoy making snarky put downs against people here who seek to preserve the white race? That race which has been under attack for over the past century, and is tending towards becoming a minority in many of its own countries. That race which has been under attack precisely because, among other reasons, it has been the one whose priests have most spread the Gospels to the ends of the earth, produced and sustained Christendom, and has comprised the majority of those who defended Our Lord's Church against Satan and all enemies of God. Why is that, Seraphina?
You are right, there is not a race Christ died more for than others. But there is a race that died more than others for Christ.
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White men certainly can play basketball. Basketball was actually invented by a white man. And while I understand your questions were meant to be rhetorical, they have already been answered, at least implicitly, in my first comment. So they did not need to be asked
However, I don't fail to notice that your first question is a not-so-subtle "jab" at so-called "white supremacy", with blacks making up the majority of professional basketball players..the second question as well, with most likely Asians making up the majority of mathematical competition winners.
So I really must ask, why do you take offense at white people seeking to live in a racially homogeneous community or, more preferably, country..and discussing that, and taking steps accomplish that goal? You know, the way it had been mostly everywhere, until the 20th century? Why have I never seen you say something that can be construed as explicitly pro-white, while all the while you seem to enjoy making snarky put downs against people here who seek to preserve the white race? That race which has been under attack for over the past century, and is tending towards becoming a minority in many of its own countries. That race which has been under attack precisely because, among other reasons, it has been the one who's priests have most spread the Gospels to the ends of the earth, produced and sustained Christendom, and has comprised the majority of those who defended Our Lord's Church against Satan and all enemies of God. Why is that, Seraphina?
You are right, there is not a race Christ died more for than others. But there is a race that died more than others for Christ.
And then you must ask why is God letting the white race disappear? What greater glory will come out of it?
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There is good evidence that the original tribes of Israel dispersed and settled mostly in Europe. Interesting for many reasons. For example, the prophecies about Israel only apply to Europeans. What countries does the whole world "want in"? White countries.
Isn't it an interesting coincidence that Europe, and only Europe, took to Christianity like a duck to water? What other part of the world, in any time in history, expressed anything like "Christendom" in reality? i.e., the reign of Christ the King in everyday social life, secular laws, customs, etc. Only medieval Europe has done this.
What people group has formed a virtual army of missionary priests and basically gone out to convert the whole world to the Faith, with varying degrees of success? Virtually all those missionaries were white.
It certainly seems that the white nations are a "chosen people" of sorts -- they certainly have a very unique and special role to play in the world, including in the economy of salvation. Just look at the French and Spanish. How many countries were civilized/Christianized thanks to them? And how many Irish priests went out into the world to preach and/or convert nations? Not to mention many other European countries.
It's also interesting that the various last name flags (heraldry) have symbols of the 11 "lost tribes" of Israel. My Irish last name has a hart, for example. So apparently my father's family is of the tribe of Nephtali.
It's also interesting because the Apocalypse talks about Jews who claim they are Jews but are not, but are the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan". So the Jews we talk about on CathInfo are not really Jews at all, but the SoS. What if we have another example here of diabolical inversion (up is down, black is white) where the Whites are called the devil whereas they are actually God's chosen people, meanwhile the "Jews" claim all sorts of privileges being the "chosen people" while committing satan worship, genocide, and countless unspeakable acts. And in fact, they are not Jews at all, but the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan. I didn't say it, the Holy Scriptures did.
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And then you must ask why is God letting the white race disappear? What greater glory will come out of it?
The Apostles wondered the same thing on Good Friday -- and they all lost heart, except St. John. God's ways are not our ways.
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You are correct. White men can’t play basketball, right? Which race wins the prizes in mathematics?
Is there a race for which Christ died more than others? And if there were, which of us would have reason to boast or to complain? Not one!
Actually recently I hear that Slavics are doing well in basketball. The black have always been promoted due to propaganda. Pure skill is never the only factor (not saying that aren't skilled).
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And then you must ask why is God letting the white race disappear? What greater glory will come out of it?
Because. Humans. Have. Free. Will. You can accept it as inevitable..which it is not, the outcome is uncertain. Or you can resist this evil. Or, at the absolute very least, you can just not deride those who do resist it (not saying you do).
Whatever happens, we know a greater glory will come at some point :pray:
Apoc. 21:3 And I heard a great voice from the throne, saying: Behold the tabernacle of God with men: and he will dwell with them. And they shall be his people: and God himself with them shall be their God.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes: and death shall be no more. Nor mourning, nor crying, nor sorrow shall be any more, for the former things are passed away.
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White men certainly can play basketball. Basketball was actually invented by a white man. And while I understand your questions were meant to be rhetorical, they have already been answered, at least implicitly, in my first comment. So they did not need to be asked
However, I don't fail to notice that your first question is a not-so-subtle "jab" at so-called "white supremacy", with blacks making up the majority of professional basketball players..the second question as well, with most likely Asians making up the majority of mathematical competition winners.
So I really must ask, why do you take offense at white people seeking to live in a racially homogeneous community or, more preferably, country..and discussing that, and taking steps accomplish that goal? You know, the way it had been mostly everywhere, until the 20th century? Why have I never seen you say something that can be construed as explicitly pro-white, while all the while you seem to enjoy making snarky put downs against people here who seek to preserve the white race? That race which has been under attack for over the past century, and is tending towards becoming a minority in many of its own countries. That race which has been under attack precisely because, among other reasons, it has been the one whose priests have most spread the Gospels to the ends of the earth, produced and sustained Christendom, and has comprised the majority of those who defended Our Lord's Church against Satan and all enemies of God. Why is that, Seraphina?
You are right, there is not a race Christ died more for than others. But there is a race that died more than others for Christ.
Rhetorical, yes. I’m not a sports historian, so thank you for the information. Most of the people I see playing competitive basketball are black.
Why should I make an explicitly pro-white statement? To please you? If you or anyone wants to live in an all-white community, be my guest. Live wherever you like. Some have the money to make such a choice, some do not. Some people want to live only among their specific nationality. Going back not that many years, my father lived in a predominantly Irish Catholic community. They had their own parish because this was NYC. My mother was born and lived her first nine years in a Polish Catholic community. There was a time, btw, when Irish were NOT considered white in NYC. They were grouped in between the Italians (not white) and the blacks. That’s exactly where they lived in distinct communities down to individual buildings in lower Manhattan. (I do know my ancestry and NYC history.)
When my parents got engaged, Irish to Polish, some of the Irish found it offensive to the point where several older people, non-relatives, went to the Irish priest to object. By 1950, the Irish had risen in social standing in NYC, but the Polish, no. There were people who scolded my father for marrying beneath himself, and Polish who congratulated my mother for marrying higher.
This was never an issue in my lifetime, for which I’m thankful. Had I been born a century earlier, it would have been a different story. An Irish man who married a Polish woman would have been scandalous in NY of 1850!
Sorry, but I have only once felt “under attack” for being white. That was in 1994 in a Chinese bakery in Flushing, Queens. I was there to purchase a birthday cake for a Chinese coworker. The two women at the counter glared at me and totally ignored me while waiting on Asian customers. One pretended to not speak English which was not true. I heard her speak in English with a Korean customer. After about 15 minutes, I gave up. There are more than one Chinese bakery in Flushing, so I went to another on the next block. The name of the cake was written in Chinese on a slip of paper because I couldn’t pronounce it properly. In the second bakery, I was waited upon promptly and politely despite being the only non-Asian in the store. I bought the cake and brought it to school.
I’m sorry if you don’t like that I feel no need to live in a whites only community, but that’s how it is. Actually, I prefer to live amongst a mix of people, so long as they behave in a respectful and God-fearing manner. That’s how I grew up, went to school, and worked. I’ve had friends of different races, nationalities, and religions, although I feel naturally closer to those who are traditional Catholic.
I’m single, but were I to marry late in life, I doubt I would marry outside of the white race. Nothing personal, but I do not find non-white men particularly attractive. If someone does marry outside their race, that’s their business. There is no Catholic rule against it.
As for my validating your desire to support whites-only communities, you’ll have to look elsewhere.
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Europeans and European Americans should be resentful that their homelands are no longer for their people. They should be able to be bothered by this without it being implied that they are lacking in Christian quality. They should be allowed to want a homeland for themselves, to the exclusion of other kinds of people. Not because they hate other people, not because other people are not redeemed by Christ, but because all societies for all of human history until about five minutes ago we're organized in that manner, including the States of Christendom.
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Europeans and European Americans should be resentful that their homelands are no longer for their people. They should be able to be bothered by this without it being implied that they are lacking in Christian quality. They should be allowed to want a homeland for themselves, to the exclusion of other kinds of people. Not because they hate other people, not because other people are not redeemed by Christ, but because all societies for all of human history until about five minutes ago we're organized in that manner, including the States of Christendom.
As most people do, in Europe, in North America, in Australia. There have been riots in these places because the new arrivals 1) Are too many all at once. 2) Have entered illegally. 3) Have an entitled attitude demanding not only rights of citizens but special privileges on top of it! 4) Make no effort to assimilate or enhance the new country. 5) Have deliberately caused public disturbances, committed many heinous crimes. 6) Have joined forces with the “woke,” the most dysfunctional of citizens, going out of their way to be odious. 7) Lack the basic morals of natural law. 8) Have brought their criminals and outlaws with them! 9) Are a serious drain on the economy at the expense of needy citizens. 10) Want to take over the governments, the culture, religion, everything.
Of course, these don’t apply to each and every individual recent arrival. If a nation is unjustly invaded by another, that is cause for war. It could very well be WWIII, nobody is calling it that, yet!
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Why should I make an explicitly pro-white statement? To please you?
My question, don't evade it:
Why have I never seen you say something that can be construed as explicitly pro-white, while all the while you seem to enjoy making snarky put downs against people here who seek to preserve the white race?
Sorry, but I have only once felt “under attack” for being white.
Not about you, personally.
I’m sorry if you don’t like that I feel no need to live in a whites only community, but that’s how it is.
Live wherever you want
As for my validating your desire to support whites-only communities, you’ll have to look elsewhere.
Again, evading the question. I don't need you to "validate" anything for me or to support white communities. I asking why you denigrate those who are white nationalist or separatist
My question, again:
Why have I never seen you say something that can be construed as explicitly pro-white, while all the while you seem to enjoy making snarky put downs against people here who seek to preserve the white race?
Thank you for the anecdotes, by the way. I always enjoy reading them.
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I don't expect elderly Catholic women to be staunch advocates for white nationalism or any other explicitly pro-white causes, they're probably busy enough praying and getting by day-to-day. But I do not appreciate them disparaging those who are and who recognize the "Great Replacement" white people are facing. The bare minimum is to not deny that is is happening, and to not attack those willing to do something about it. I've never told you that you have to be explicitly pro-white..just don't be anti-white
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I don't expect elderly Catholic women to be staunch advocates for white nationalism or any other explicitly pro-white causes, they're probably busy enough praying and getting by day-to-day. But I do not appreciate them disparaging those who are and who recognize the "Great Replacement" white people are facing. The bare minimum is to not deny that is is happening, and to not attack those willing to do something about it. I've never told you that you have to be explicitly pro-white..just don't be anti-white
I feel the same way. They also react the same way when talking about the jews or LGBT. I would have have thought that the older you get, the more combative you become, but it's not the case.
Catholics are born and formed for combat. I hope I don't get that way when I'm old
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I don't expect elderly Catholic women to be staunch advocates for white nationalism or any other explicitly pro-white causes, they're probably busy enough praying and getting by day-to-day. But I do not appreciate them disparaging those who are and who recognize the "Great Replacement" white people are facing. The bare minimum is to not deny that is is happening, and to not attack those willing to do something about it. I've never told you that you have to be explicitly pro-white..just don't be anti-white
It's programming and propaganda. White nationalism is associated with the far-right extremists, nαzι-sympathizers and anti-gov weirdos. Hollywood has pushed this propaganda since the 60s.
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As most people do, in Europe, in North America, in Australia. There have been riots in these places because the new arrivals 1) Are too many all at once. 2) Have entered illegally. 3) Have an entitled attitude demanding not only rights of citizens but special privileges on top of it! 4) Make no effort to assimilate or enhance the new country. 5) Have deliberately caused public disturbances, committed many heinous crimes. 6) Have joined forces with the “woke,” the most dysfunctional of citizens, going out of their way to be odious. 7) Lack the basic morals of natural law. 8) Have brought their criminals and outlaws with them! 9) Are a serious drain on the economy at the expense of needy citizens. 10) Want to take over the governments, the culture, religion, everything.
Of course, these don’t apply to each and every individual recent arrival. If a nation is unjustly invaded by another, that is cause for war. It could very well be WWIII, nobody is calling it that, yet!
Welcome to Ireland!!