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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: AnthonyPadua on December 04, 2024, 07:55:42 PM
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I am looking to start making my wardrobe more 'mature' but I am not too familiar with clothing styles, while also meeting Catholic modesty standards. The weather where I live will be getting very hot so I am thinking of starting with more summery clothes for men. I would love to hear advice from both the men and women of this forum of how a younger man (not teenage) can dress well, without also being vain. I don't have any experience with this, and while I could just use to internet to look for information (I am) I am hoping to hear a Catholic perspective on attire. I think that site traditioninaction said we should dress according to our state in life??
Whether it be casual wear, formal wear, semi-formal, pjs, I am all ears.
Also regarding shoes, can moccasins be worn with socks? I don't like the idea of wearing shoes without socks unless they are sandals/boat shoes.
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For formal wear, you really only need three colors of suits: black, grey and navy. One white shirt, one light blue shirt, one off-white. One of those should be a three-piece.
Unless you are performing in a classical ensemble, you do not need a black dress shirt because that is the uniform look they've all adopted recently.
Don't wear a dress shirt and tie without a jacket, it looks unseemly.
It shouldn't be too tight in the mid-section and the pants shouldn't be too long. Any decent tailor can hem an inch/2cm up.
Stick to conservative-colored ties, and self-tie only. If you don't know how, look it up. Dark red, dark blue, nothing with stripes or polka dots.
And for everything else, stick to neutral and conservative-colored clothing. I own a series of navy hoodies and wear that with black jeans and black shoes. It is also -14 Celsius where I live in the Northern Hemisphere, so my options are limited! Lol.
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Thanks I will keep your advice in mind.
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I don't know if this is much used in the USA
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I am looking to start making my wardrobe more 'mature' but I am not too familiar with clothing styles, while also meeting Catholic modesty standards. The weather where I live will be getting very hot so I am thinking of starting with more summery clothes for men. I would love to hear advice from both the men and women of this forum of how a younger man (not teenage) can dress well, without also being vain. I don't have any experience with this, and while I could just use to internet to look for information (I am) I am hoping to hear a Catholic perspective on attire. I think that site traditioninaction said we should dress according to our state in life??
Whether it be casual wear, formal wear, semi-formal, pjs, I am all ears.
Also regarding shoes, can moccasins be worn with socks? I don't like the idea of wearing shoes without socks unless they are sandals/boat shoes.
My husband changed his wardrobe a lot after we got married. He said he didn't want to dress like a teenager anymore. 😅
He used to wear jeans and t-shirts all the time with hoodies.
His normal daily wear is now plaid button down shirts with a white t-shirt underneath matched with cotton kacki type pants of varying colors. In the winter he uses long sleeved shirts and in the summer shorter sleeved buttoned up shirts. Most of these I have found at the thrift store for him at a reasonable price. (When mowing the lawn or running he will still switch to jeans and t-shirts.) He now uses sweaters and jackets instead of hoodies (for the most part).
(And as I write this I am sitting in our kitchen wearing a hoodie someone gave me a long time ago because it is warm and I was cold. :laugh1:)
When my husband switched his wardrobe I remember his sister came up to me and thanked me for helping him have more style. Our little boys generally dres the same as him but without the extra t-shirts underneath (and I definitely make exceptions since I can't always find affordable buttoned up shirts for them when shopping at the thrift store). 😅
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This website basically incorporates what my husband wears and might give you some ideas (except that the clothes here is about 10x as expensive as we get it at the thrift store). 😅
https://www.outdoorandcountry.co.uk/menswear/mens-shirts-tops/mens-shirts/mens-check-shirts.sub (https://www.outdoorandcountry.co.uk/menswear/mens-shirts-tops/mens-shirts/mens-check-shirts.sub)
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I would recommend getting measured at a tailor so you know your suit size. Good suits, sportcoats, and blazers can be purchased for great prices on ebay. This is a helpful guide to getting started with suits and blazers: https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/wiki/index#wiki_the_basics
This is a good intro as well: https://putthison.com/start-here/ (The writer can be kind of a fag but most of the articles should be good)
Get your neck and sleeve measured as well for shirts, as any dress shirt or even casual button down worth it's salt with be numerically sized according to the neck/sleeve measurements
I try to dress decently, but not stand out, which can really mean a pair of jeans or chinos and a tucked in button down with some form of leather shoes in many cases. When it's real hot out I will wear a lightweight button down, untucked. When it cold I add layers such as longjohns, wool sweaters, and a jacket suitable for the cold.
I would recommend buying some linen pants and shirts secondhand and trying them out, linen is supposed to work well in the heat.
I don't wear any tight clothing, especially not pants. Classic straight fit jeans and pants, relaxed fit shirts. Not only does it not look effeminate, relaxed fit clothing gives you more range of motion, allows air flow in summer and room for layering in winter, and is just more comfortable in general.
If by moccasins you mean something like these, yes you can wear them with socks
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For formal wear, you really only need three colors of suits: black, grey and navy. One white shirt, one light blue shirt, one off-white. One of those should be a three-piece.
Unless you are performing in a classical ensemble, you do not need a black dress shirt because that is the uniform look they've all adopted recently.
Don't wear a dress shirt and tie without a jacket, it looks unseemly.
It shouldn't be too tight in the mid-section and the pants shouldn't be too long. Any decent tailor can hem an inch/2cm up.
Stick to conservative-colored ties, and self-tie only. If you don't know how, look it up. Dark red, dark blue, nothing with stripes or polka dots.
And for everything else, stick to neutral and conservative-colored clothing. I own a series of navy hoodies and wear that with black jeans and black shoes. It is also -14 Celsius where I live in the Northern Hemisphere, so my options are limited! Lol.
Great advice...except depending on his colouring he might look better in warm colours (browns and camel) as apposed to cold. Black is a staple for both though. My husband is blonde, and grey and navy never looked right. Now with grey hair....well I guess I'm just used to what he always wore.
I try to dress decently, but not stand out,
I had to chuckle at that. In this day and age, anyone who dresses decently, man or woman, stands out. Just think of it as an example to the slobs/sluts to dress better.
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In this day and age, anyone who dresses decently, man or woman, stands out. Just think of it as an example to the slobs/sluts to dress better.
If I see another man with a jacket tie and hat, I often go up to him and shake his hand. I'm tempted to add "Dr. Livingstone I presume" but I'm not sure many understand the reference
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IMHO… Clean counts. Styles change. I have found no dogma requiring that we dress in the style of the 1950's.
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…but not stand out…
In our circle of friends that translates as "an armed gray man."
I hadn't worn denim since my hippie days daze, but had a pair of ivory-colored denim cargo pants made while in Asia and I am enjoying how comfy they are. The shop has a great reputation, but I hesitated when the entry was through a very funky back alley and up 4 flights of rickety stairs and then through a maze. Walking up the stairs I thought to myself, "Who buys clothes here? But, the owner and staff were fabulous, chatty, the choice of pockets, buttons, stitching and layout were innumerable, and the fit and style are impeccable. Those pants will likely outlast me.
Anyway… It is de fide Magisterium that clothing must be comfortable (hence my snide remark about "1950's style").
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For formal wear, you really only need three colors of suits: black, grey and navy. One white shirt, one light blue shirt, one off-white. One of those should be a three-piece.
Unless you are performing in a classical ensemble, you do not need a black dress shirt because that is the uniform look they've all adopted recently.
Don't wear a dress shirt and tie without a jacket, it looks unseemly.
It shouldn't be too tight in the mid-section and the pants shouldn't be too long. Any decent tailor can hem an inch/2cm up.
Stick to conservative-colored ties, and self-tie only. If you don't know how, look it up. Dark red, dark blue, nothing with stripes or polka dots.
And for everything else, stick to neutral and conservative-colored clothing. I own a series of navy hoodies and wear that with black jeans and black shoes. It is also -14 Celsius where I live in the Northern Hemisphere, so my options are limited! Lol.
What's wrong with stripes?
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Great advice...except depending on his colouring he might look better in warm colours (browns and camel) as apposed to cold. Black is a staple for both though. My husband is blonde, and grey and navy never looked right. Now with grey hair....well I guess I'm just used to what he always wore.
I had to chuckle at that. In this day and age, anyone who dresses decently, man or woman, stands out. Just think of it as an example to the slobs/sluts to dress better.
Depends on where you live I think. Where I live it's always a blend. There are always many people dressed in business casual or women in dresses/skirts (still less common than trousers or too short unfortunately). And then there are the bunch that are into the Americano/athletic aesthetic that are eye sore. For example once I saw this one girl wearing like a all in one piece tight thing which was basically leggings but for the whole body. But I dont usually see anything ugly that level.
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Depends on where you live I think. Where I live it's always a blend. There are always many people dressed in business casual or women in dresses/skirts (still less common than trousers or too short unfortunately). And then there are the bunch that are into the Americano/athletic aesthetic that are eye sore. For example once I saw this one girl wearing like a all in one piece tight thing which was basically leggings but for the whole body. But I dont usually see anything ugly that level.
"Leggings for the whole body" almost describes the "hooker chic" trio in front of me at the Whole Foods check-out line.… except that very little of the obviously "high mileage" bodies was actually covered.
I hate to patronize the looters at Whole Foods, but there are just some healthy foods that are unavailable elsewhere in Phoenix. Sprouts isn't even close.
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In our circle of friends that translates as "an armed gray man."
I hadn't worn denim since my hippie days daze, but had a pair of ivory-colored denim cargo pants made while in Asia and I am enjoying how comfy they are. The shop has a great reputation, but I hesitated when the entry was through a very funky back alley and up 4 flights of rickety stairs and then through a maze. Walking up the stairs I thought to myself, "Who buys clothes here? But, the owner and staff were fabulous, chatty, the choice of pockets, buttons, stitching and layout were innumerable, and the fit and style are impeccable. Those pants will likely outlast me.
Anyway… It is de fide Magisterium that clothing must be comfortable (hence my snide remark about "1950's style").
Yeah, wearing a mid-Century American style suit may look "trad" but it will bring unwanted attention if you're wearing it grocery shopping.
I do think some of the most well made clothing is being made in Asia. The jeans I currently have were made in China, but they are made by a Chinese brand which doesn't have any presence outside of China, not by a western brand that happens to manufacture in China. The quality:price ratio absolutely blows away any western name brand.
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"Leggings for the whole body" almost describes the "hooker chic" trio in front of me at the Whole Foods check-out line.… except that very little of the obviously "high mileage" bodies was actually covered.
I hate to patronize the looters at Whole Foods, but there are just some healthy foods that are unavailable elsewhere in Phoenix. Sprouts isn't even close.
Try Asian market. You will probably most of the "healthy good" fresh and 1/3 of price :laugh2:
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Yeah, wearing a mid-Century American style suit may look "trad" but it will bring unwanted attention if you're wearing it grocery shopping.
I do think some of the most well made clothing is being made in Asia. The jeans I currently have were made in China, but they are made by a Chinese brand which doesn't have any presence outside of China, not by a western brand that happens to manufacture in China. The quality:price ratio absolutely blows away any western name brand.
Well yea since the skilled factory workers work 13 hrs a day and get paid for $250 a month
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Try Asian market. You will probably most of the "healthy good" fresh and 1/3 of price :laugh2:
I frequent the Asian markets in Phoenix.
None of them have, for example, organic cheeses that I like. They don't even have the cereals I like.
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Yeah, wearing a mid-Century American style suit may look "trad" but it will bring unwanted attention if you're wearing it grocery shopping.
I do think some of the most well made clothing is being made in Asia. The jeans I currently have were made in China, but they are made by a Chinese brand which doesn't have any presence outside of China, not by a western brand that happens to manufacture in China. The quality:price ratio absolutely blows away any western name brand.
I travel according to my dear Grandmother's advice: "Take half as much clothing and twice as much money," so for my recent two months in Asia I brought 1 pair of long pants figuring to buy more "in-country." Ooooo whee… good luck! There were very limited choices in Men's American Size L. I ended up buying for myself those custom jeans I mentioned and one white linen shirt. Inexpensive laundry every other day did the trick. There was no shortage of Size S for my wife and daughter. I bought some gorgeous silk outfits for them.
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IMHO… Clean counts. Styles change. I have found no dogma requiring that we dress in the style of the 1950's.
To dress-up or dress nicely in public, at all times such as in wearing a coat, tie and slacks is… “counter-Revolutionary”.
This is the policy of The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property otherwise known as the TFP.
Considering America’s clothing culture is judaized, uni-sexed
and generally disordered, for trad Catholic men, it’s should be a pleasure to dawn a coat & tie so that…
They can go out and watch the reactions of shock & disgust (with some secret admirers) who know we’re disrupting the feminine, grunge & teenage dress codes of our pagan male society.
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25 years or so ago, there was an East Coast clothing firm that was going through bankruptcy and was selling everything they had online via auction. The place was called ‘Atlantic Rancher.’ Mind you, eBay wasn’t even much of a thing yet, and so forth, so there wasn’t a lot of competing bids. I knew nothing about them, but I picked up some woolen sweaters (sort of like military style) and some shirts. These sweaters were normally selling for like $350 each (in late 90’s dollars), and I ended up picking up two for like $75 each. These sweaters turned out to be some of the best-made sweaters I’ve ever purchased. How good? I still wear each of them today. I dry clean them maybe once every two years.
The point in providing this anecdote is that sometimes you do get what you pay for, so it sometimes wise to search out quality clothing manufacturers, pay the extra $$, and get something “conservative” that doesn’t go out of style, and you’ll have something that’ll last a long, long time.
Similar to a lot of things of high quality, pay once, cry once.
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