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Offline TxTrad

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Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 02:26:14 PM »
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  • Yes, they can.
    And most states have automatic common law marriages, too.

    No they don’t.  Common law marriage is only legal in 10 states.  It has been outlawed in 27, and was never legal in the remaining 13.

    The 10 states where common law marriage remains legal are Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, Montana, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah.
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    You are right.  Thank you for correcting me.
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    All U.S. jurisdictions provide, under their laws of comity, that a marriage validly contracted in another jurisdiction is valid in their jurisdiction.
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    Ergo, a common law marriage in one state is recognized valid in another state.

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #16 on: June 21, 2018, 10:51:35 PM »
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  • This is a good video. This sort of thing is happening across the world across all religions and cultures. A son of mine as a Traditional Catholic now faces a future as a celibate man, with gaping holes in his pocketbook. His three children face an unknown future. His ex-wife -to-be faces a future in a "woman-empowered" world.


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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #17 on: June 22, 2018, 09:19:16 AM »
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  • Can you provide more details about the legal situation?  The wife wanted a divorce and now he has to pay how much?

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #18 on: June 22, 2018, 03:02:44 PM »
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    Our sspx priest does not help women.  He tells them to see their doctor to get drugs.
    Drugs for what purpose?  What type of drugs?

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #19 on: June 22, 2018, 05:45:55 PM »
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  • Just look for the right qualities in a woman, arranged in the right (Catholic) priority, and you will significantly reduce the odds of this kind of thing happening.


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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #20 on: June 22, 2018, 06:02:23 PM »
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    Our sspx priest does not help women.  He tells them to see their doctor to get drugs.

    There are many priests who don't understand women very well.  And that's only natural since many of them have not had any serious (intimate) relationships with women.  It's difficult enough for men to understand women even after being married to them  :).  Now try to imagine never knowing any women very closely.  So they punt when it comes to women's issues.  I've known some priests who advise women to seek counsel from their husbands (even if a large part of the problem has to do with their very relationship with their husbands).  In many cases, they just don't know what to do.  I think that this may be one benefit of the married priests they have always had in the Eastern Rites.  Priests also sometimes have very little to say about issues that parents have with their children, not having had children of their own.  So the priests can be very good and laying out the principles of Catholic theology regarding women's relationships, but often struggle to apply these within the context of how women think.  But the prudential considerations involved in how to apply these principles to specific situations involving wives and children can escape them.  We men sometimes find ourselves trying to impose our male thought patterns on women ... even when we've been in intimate relationships.  Much more so for priests who have never had such close relationships.  In convents, women act as the primary spiritual advisors to the other sisters, and there's a lot to be said for that.  Priests could help educate the Mother Superior about the principles involved, and then she can try to apply them to the Sisters.

    So, if a woman might be struggling with emotional issues, hey, maybe meds (liked SSRIs) could help.  It's a sign of desperation from a man trying to understand women.  Now, if there were religious Sisters near women, as there used to be in the good old Traditional days, women could seek counsel from women religious.  While these woman also would (generally) not have had serious relationships with men, they could at least speak to the women in their own language ... as it were.

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #21 on: June 22, 2018, 06:03:57 PM »
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  • Just look for the right qualities in a woman, arranged in the right (Catholic) priority, and you will significantly reduce the odds of this kind of thing happening.

    Lots of men (even Traditional Catholics) seek out women primarily based on physical and emotional attraction and then act surprised when the woman doesn't have the principles and virtues that are needed to keep a relationship on track.

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #22 on: June 23, 2018, 06:47:40 AM »
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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #23 on: June 23, 2018, 06:54:34 AM »
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  • Lots of men (even Traditional Catholics) seek out women primarily based on physical and emotional attraction and then act surprised when the woman doesn't have the principles and virtues that are needed to keep a relationship on track.
    I see this all the time. They go for the "hot" girl and have a great time until they figure out she has the brain of a gnat and the morals of a drunken sailor AFTER they tie the knot. then it's all downhill from there.


    That's why over half the marriages fail in this country, not so much because the women are not virtuous as much as the single men are too lonely, horny and stupid to pick the right one out to begin with. Although I agree, for a young guy, the pickins might be a bit slim these days, but for crying out loud, raise your standards a little before you go jumpin the broom with the first bimbo who gives you the time of day, stop being so pathetic.

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #24 on: June 23, 2018, 07:18:00 PM »
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  • This video is anti-Catholic spam from a non-Catholic "pastor. "

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #25 on: June 24, 2018, 12:07:00 AM »
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  • This video is anti-Catholic spam from a non-Catholic "pastor. "
    No, it's not anti-Catholic spam.

    Mention the time of the video and what he says that's "anti-Catholic". You can't because there's nothing anti-Catholic in it.

    You, also, are guilty of bearing false witness against your neighbor.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #26 on: June 24, 2018, 01:25:05 AM »
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  • I only made half way through this. While what he says certainly happens, what he's missing is the rest of us. His "25 years experience" only applies to dysfunctional marriages. The relationships that work don't need his "services". So, all he can tell you is how BAD marriages operate. What he has no experience with is how GOOD marriages operate. (unless he himself is in a functional marriage -- though, it doesn't sound likely) 
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    I seem to make it onto several groups promoting Christ-centered marriage ... probably because the interested parties overlap quite a bit with the homeschooling communities that I intend to follow. Anyhow, these people have a lot of good advice about building up and keeping a good marriage because they're LIVING what they talk about. They're married and have been for decades. They talk about what WORKS, not about what doesn't work. Their only major downside is a little Protestant spin, but if you can handle this guy, their touch of Protestantism isn't going to hurt you. Some of them are even Catholic. A quick Google search and I'm sure you'll find dozens of such sites.
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    This guy has seen too much failure -- in his own life or others, who knows. What you need to succeed is to hear from those who've been successful, not those who haven't.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #27 on: June 24, 2018, 01:43:01 AM »
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  • What he has no experience with is how GOOD marriages operate. (unless he himself is in a functional marriage -- though, it doesn't sound likely)

    He's been married to the same woman for over 30 years. His wife was a virgin when he married her, too.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #28 on: June 24, 2018, 01:44:54 AM »
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  • He's been married to the same woman for over 30 years. His wife was a virgin when he married her, too.
    So, you should post the videos where he talks about his own relationship. I doubt he's kept himself emotionally unattached to his wife for 30 years!
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
    « Reply #29 on: June 24, 2018, 01:46:26 AM »
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  • Study what works and you'll know what sort of person you're looking for.
    Knowing what sorts of people to avoid only gets you so far.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

     

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