[PereJoseph]

We speak of the moral equality of different races and all individuals because everybody has the same end and all, equally, have immortal souls and hearts and minds meant to be united to Our Lord for eternity.

I should clarify that I do not mean that all souls and races are morally equal after the fact of actual sin, but that they are morally equal in their created metaphysical being.  That is to say, all individuals have immortal souls meant to be united to God and therefore are originally spiritually equal as such; they are consequently not equal, however, by the fact of sin.

This is similar to the theological point that God's primary will is that all men be saved but that, on account of man's choice to offend God, His consequent will is that all men not be saved.

[alaric]

"You are commiting scandal and anyone who says that they would rather hang out with a 'white lutheran' then a turk catholic or any other is the liberal not a Catholic and is the true Liberal, not the other way around. You should be banned for your idiocy"-LordPhan[/color]

Well now, that isn't very charitable of you , your "Lord-ship" now is it. First you tell him he's on his way to eternal damnation because he disagrees with you on racial issues and then you call for his banning so he'll be lost in his ignorance (in your mind) with no chance of redemption. Not exactly very Christ-like if you ask me. Also, isn't it always the liberals who want to silence people when they can't shout them down?

"The Culture of Germany is doing pretty bad, they are giving billions of dollars per year to Israel because they are liberal protestant idiots like yourself who have been brainwashed into thinking they can ecuмanise.

Oh that's rich, blame the German people for being extorted by worldwide Jєωry and their enablers, enablers like liberal-minded Catholics such as the pope tirelessly apologizing for the holacaust giving fuel to the fire so the Jєωs can extract every last nickel out of those eeevil Germans. Or the Vatican throwing Bp Williamson  under the bus over "holacaust-denial" Why don't you be a man and call out the extorters for who they really are and stop blaming German "protestants"?



And where does a Canadian come off knocking German culture ?

"You are now on ignore, heretic ecuмanist. "

Typical liberal Canadian response. That's your answer to everything north of the border these days, censorship. How many "thought crimes" laws have you enacted up there these days? Doesn't anyone up there have the guts to speak out about this liberal, leftists tyranny? They ought to change the symbol on the flag from the maple to the sheeple.

And you have the gaul to condemn liberalism in Germany.

[Alex]

I have found the quotation from St. Gemma.

'I recall very well one time I was given a gold watch and chain. Ambitious as I was, I could hardly wait to put it on and go out (an indication, dear Father that my imagination was working on me). I did in fact go out with it on and when I returned home and started to take it off I saw an angel (whom I recognized immediately as my Guardian Angel) who said to me very seriously; "Remember that the precious Jєωelry that adorns the spouse of the Crucified King can only be thorns and the cross."

I did not even tell my confessor about this. In fact, I now tell it for the first time. These words made me fear as did the angel himself. But a little later, while reflecting on them without understanding them at all, I made this resolution: I resolve for the love of Jesus and to please him, never to wear the watch again and not even to speak of things that savor vanity. At the time I also had a ring on my finger. I took it off immediately and from that day to this I have not worn such things.'

St. Gemma Galgani

Someone thumbed down this quote. Apparently, that someone thinks they know better than an angel of God

I think the angel knows more about what God considers Christian perfection in acting than you do, Member Who Thumbed It Down.

[Sede Catholic]

Dear Alex,

That is a wonderful quote from holy Saint Gemma.

I am glad that you defended it.

It is always good to see modesty.

St. Gemma was very holy.

What an example Saint Gemma is to us all.

[Elizabeth]

What about St. Therese?   There are two photographs of her at about age 12 and another at 15, and in both she is wearing earrings.  Her father, Blessed Louis Martin was a Jєωelry maker and her mother made fine Alencon lace.

 :cheers:

[Elizabeth]

I have found the quotation from St. Gemma.

'I recall very well one time I was given a gold watch and chain. Ambitious as I was, I could hardly wait to put it on and go out (an indication, dear Father that my imagination was working on me). I did in fact go out with it on and when I returned home and started to take it off I saw an angel (whom I recognized immediately as my Guardian Angel) who said to me very seriously; "Remember that the precious Jєωelry that adorns the spouse of the Crucified King can only be thorns and the cross."

I did not even tell my confessor about this. In fact, I now tell it for the first time. These words made me fear as did the angel himself. But a little later, while reflecting on them without understanding them at all, I made this resolution: I resolve for the love of Jesus and to please him, never to wear the watch again and not even to speak of things that savor vanity. At the time I also had a ring on my finger. I took it off immediately and from that day to this I have not worn such things.'

St. Gemma Galgani

Someone thumbed down this quote. Apparently, that someone thinks they know better than an angel of God

I think the angel knows more about what God considers Christian perfection in acting than you do, Member Who Thumbed It Down.

I gave you a thumb up to make up for this.

Maybe this was part of the particular spiritual path/mortification of St. Gemma???  I am pretty sure saints ahve seen Our Lady and others wearing Jєωels and flowers ....She is breathtakingly beautiful to look at without any decoration.

[Marcelino]

I love the St. Gemma quote.

The "big picture" I see, in regards to women dressed immodestly, is that for men it's enslaving.  The enslavement is to their own lust, but women sort of control the "stuff" that men lust after.  So, in this way, men become enslaved to women.  It's like the relationship between a drug addict and a drug dealer.  Both are enslaved to their passions, but one is clearly dominant in the relationship.    

That I guess is supposed to be revolutionary, because it transfers power from men and gives it to women, thereby undermining "the patriarchy."  And this is rationalized as good/a necessary evil, because equality is supposed to be just.  
So, I think that's how the left/Jєωs/cultural marxists/moderns/feminists whatever rationalize it, but it seems like it's just an attack on the natural order.  And, if you wear a bikini to the beach, you get to be a part of that war on the natural order, wittingly or not    And if you wear modest clothing, you're sort of defending the natural order, because you aren't trying to turn men into "slaves."

It's stupid simple, but I think that's how it works!

[Neil Obstat]

I have found the quotation from St. Gemma.

'I recall very well one time I was given a gold watch and chain. Ambitious as I was, I could hardly wait to put it on and go out (an indication, dear Father that my imagination was working on me). I did in fact go out with it on and when I returned home and started to take it off I saw an angel (whom I recognized immediately as my Guardian Angel) who said to me very seriously; "Remember that the precious Jєωelry that adorns the spouse of the Crucified King can only be thorns and the cross."

I did not even tell my confessor about this. In fact, I now tell it for the first time. These words made me fear as did the angel himself. But a little later, while reflecting on them without understanding them at all, I made this resolution: I resolve for the love of Jesus and to please him, never to wear the watch again and not even to speak of things that savor vanity. At the time I also had a ring on my finger. I took it off immediately and from that day to this I have not worn such things.'

St. Gemma Galgani

So this means St. Gemma Galgani would not wear a sterling silver rosary as a necklace?