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Offline Jitpring

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Meditation on the Hireling Priests
« on: February 28, 2012, 02:31:48 PM »
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  • I fear for most of today's bishops and priests. The accounting they'll have to make upon their deaths will be unbearable. It would cause me to shake.  

    Ezechiel 3:17-21:


    Son of man [both Ezechiel and Catholic priests], I have made thee a watchman to the house of Israel [the Church]: and thou shalt hear the word out of my mouth, and shalt tell it them from me. [18] If, when I say to the wicked, Thou shalt surely die: thou declare it not to him, nor speak to him, that he may be converted from his wicked way, and live: the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but I will require his blood at thy hand. [19] But if thou give warning to the wicked, and he be not converted from his wickedness, and from his evil way: he indeed shall die in his iniquity, but thou hast delivered thy soul. [20] Moreover if the just man shall turn away from his justice, and shall commit iniquity: I will lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die, because thou hast not given him warning: he shall die in his sin, and his justices which he hath done, shall not be remembered: but I will require his blood at thy hand. [21] But if thou warn the just man, that the just may not sin, and he doth not sin: living he shall live, because thou hast warned him, and thou hast delivered thy soul.

    Further, Ezechiel 22:26-27:

    [26] Her priests have despised my law, and have defiled my sanctuaries: they have put no difference between holy and profane: nor have distinguished between the polluted and the clean: and they have turned away their eyes from my sabbaths, and I was profaned in the midst of them. [27] Her princes in the midst of her, are like wolves ravening the prey to shed blood, and to destroy souls, and to run after gains through covetousness.

    Now link with Ezechiel 34: http://drbo.org/chapter/31034.htm

    Further, recalling that a priest/bishop is to be an alter Christus, link with the very words of Our Lord, Who certainly had the previous passages in mind, at John 10:11-14:

    I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep. [12] But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep: [13] And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep. [14] I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me. [15] As the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father: and I lay down my life for my sheep.

    Sadly, most of them today lay down their lives for the world.

    Now the words of St. Paul, Acts 20:29-30:

    I know that, after my departure, ravening wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. And of your own selves shall arise men speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

    How did he know this would happen? Jesus at Matthew 7:15-16:

    Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. By their fruits you shall know them.

    Finally, 2 Timothy 4:3-4:

    For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: [4] And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.



    Miserere nobis,

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    "The life of man upon earth is a warfare."
     
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    Meditation on the Hireling Priests
    « Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 03:48:36 PM »
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  • I presume you are referring to the presbyters of the Novus Ordo in your comments.  The traditional priests are good, very hard working, holy and conscientious.   Every one has a great account to give at the judgement.
    God gives us another day to become more holy and pleasing to him
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    Everytime I type the word p r e s b y t e r , it is blocked out.   have to type it this way with spaces betewwn the letters.
    Very strange!  I asked you before, Matthew,  is your program doing this?
    Can some of you try to type the word in a response here, and see if it happens to you.
    Thanks


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    « Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 06:59:13 PM »
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  • presbyter
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    « Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 09:48:49 AM »
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  • presbyter  
      Interesting!  
    Amen quippe dico vobis donec transeat caelum et terra iota unum aut unus apex non praeteribit a lege donec omnia fiant  (For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. )

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    « Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 09:59:04 AM »
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  • How about instead of presbyter, then "President of the assembly" or "Minister of the Banquet"? Or from the Latin dictionary:

    sacerdos, sacerdotis  N  C     3 1  C   [XEXAX]  
    priest, priestess;

    clericus, clerici  N  M     2 1  M   [DEXAS]  
    clergyman, priest, cleric, clerk; scholar, student, scribe, secretary (Bee);

    presbyter, presbyteri  N  M     2 3  M   [DEXAS]  
    elder/presbyter (in Christian Church); priest;

      Even the Latin dictionary is cencored.  :smirk:
    Amen quippe dico vobis donec transeat caelum et terra iota unum aut unus apex non praeteribit a lege donec omnia fiant  (For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. )


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    « Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 09:53:32 PM »
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  • Folks, that word is in the New Testament and official liturgical docuмents.  It means elder, and is simply a way to distinguish between someone who is just a priest and a bishop, who is a priest and more.  Traditio's use of the word as an insult is just silly and a display of Fr. Morrison's ignorance.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 12:35:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Folks, that word is in the New Testament and official liturgical docuмents.  It means elder, and is simply a way to distinguish between someone who is just a priest and a bishop, who is a priest and more.  Traditio's use of the word as an insult is just silly and a display of Fr. Morrison's ignorance.



    SIG:
    What Im saying is that this program on this forum wont let us type it!!!!!!!
    It doesnt block out any other words I know of!.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 05:35:21 PM »
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  • I get that.  I once used the word "P r e s b y t e r i a n" and this happened.  Matthew told me he does tat just because he find's Traditio's misuse of the word offensive.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir