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Offline Croix de Fer

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Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2018, 10:53:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 10:34:20 AM
    You are the one bragging about your sɛҳuąƖ exploits, your experiences. I was only pointing out to you that your experiences are nothing that any male schlump of the world has not had. The fact that you brag about them as if they were special, shows that you are  just a "one eyed man".


    Now this is an actual strawman argument.

    I never bragged about anything. I was giving examples of women's harlotry. Naturally, in order to give (plentiful) personal experience, I have to mention myself. Also, please quote me where I mentioned my "sɛҳuąƖ exploits".

    I'll wait...



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    "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King".

    "In a country of eunuchs and impotent men, the Last Tradhican is a king."

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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #76 on: March 17, 2018, 10:56:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
    They are puerile because you raise them to be something special and one of a kind, when your experiences are typical of any man of the world.
    You seem to have a fixation with me for whatever reason.

    Again, the points I made are not about me, per se, but, naturally, I have to mention myself when giving my own plentiful experiences. The points are about the harlotry of women. That's not boasting. If you think it's boasting, then you probably have a jealousy or envy problem, or you're insecure about yourself for whatever reason.

    When the aforementioned women initiated sensual touch and heavy flirtations at me, what was the stimulus for their actions? Did they just do them randomly at any direction, and I happened to come in contact with them when I appeared? Of course not.

    Logically, upon viewing me, the women had a lustful thought or some fantasy involving my physical being (the object of their perception) and themselves, which was the impetus for their actions. There is no other way around it. It wasn't like a scenario where they were trying to whore themselves into a job promotion.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #77 on: March 17, 2018, 11:22:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 10:34:20 AM
    You are the one bragging about your sɛҳuąƖ exploits, your experiences. I was only pointing out to you that your experiences are nothing that any male schlump of the world has not had. The fact that you brag about them as if they were special, shows that you are  just a "one eyed man".

    "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King".
    Dear Croix De Fer,

    I know it is too late now, since it is written. I wish we had the option to delete a posting but we do not. I publicly apologize for the way I wrote about the subject above and for the other previous post saying the same. I should have sent you this observation in a private email and put it differently.   

    Your relations with women of the world that you have detailed here are nothing special, they are the typical experience of any man who has lived in the world. The fact that you consider them special indicates to me that you have a good heart and felt betrayed in your ideals by the reactions of those women of the world. You are a good man searching a good woman. Unfortunately, today, good women as rare, the whole world is corrupt. It is no different for the good women. They exist the same as you exist. From my experience, stay in shape, keep your mind young, and let God sort out the rest for you. He did for me.

    *Keep your mind young = do not let life's bad experiences embitter you. 

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #78 on: March 17, 2018, 11:44:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 11:22:03 AM
    Dear Croix De Fer,

    [...] I publicly apologize
    Thanks. I apologize for being abrasive.



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    Your relations with women of the world that you have detailed here are nothing special, they are the typical experience of any man who has lived in the world.

    I don't mean to continue to be argumentative, but this actually supports what I'm saying, variably, about most women. Their harlotry is widespread, but the motivation is lust as much as validation.

    While I agree Cantellara is correct that women engage in that type of behavior to get attention, and it's empowering if they succeed, and because it raises their self-esteem, I think it's only part of the reason. Just as much, if not greater, a reason has lust at its core. Of course, every individual case is different.



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    From my experience, stay in shape, keep your mind young, and let God sort out the rest for you. He did for me.

    *Keep your mind young = do not let life's bad experiences embitter you.

    Thanks for the advice. Indeed. Indeed.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #79 on: March 17, 2018, 12:47:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 11:44:49 AM
    While I agree Cantellara is correct that women engage in that type of behavior to get attention, and it's empowering if they succeed, and because it raises their self-esteem, I think it's only part of the reason. Just as much, if not greater, a reason has lust at its core. Of course, every individual case is different.
    I do not think it is the sin of lust as men experience it. Remember, we are talking here about a young athletic shirtless man.

    What do you think about this comment about sodomite males vs. female lesbians? If women lusted the same as men, we could get our way with many different women every day:


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    Then they are saying that some women of the world sees a shirtless young man and she will either fantasize having relations with the young man or start planning to actually seduce the young man, both mortal sins. Her objective is strictly to "seduce", just like a man.

    Nothing is 100%. But from my experience, I do not think that the percentage of women who think like men is much higher that say the percentage of Lesbians.

    [Some women are lesbians, so they pursue women. Some men are sodomites so they pursue men. But even there, they behave differently. A male will pursue everything in sight each hour because their "prey" (other sodomites) are also pursuing everything in sight. A female lesbian does not do that, they strictly seek one partner at a time].

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #80 on: March 17, 2018, 01:04:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 14, 2018, 02:12:18 PM
    More and more you hear of WOMEN being addicted to pornography, so I think that it's beginning to affect them as well.
    The vast vast majority, probably over 90%, of people who use porn are men. The vast majority of people who masturbate regularly are men too. Women can certainly be lustful, but their sex drives are far lower(testosterone governs the sex drive, even women with high T are more lustful) and their attraction is generally less visually based too.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #81 on: March 17, 2018, 01:46:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 12:47:34 PM
     If women lusted the same as men, we could get our way with many different women every day:
    Most women are flaky, which is somewhat of a counter to the lust within themselves. The lust is still there but, many times, there are conflicting emotions and drives, so the realization of them carrying through with their sɛҳuąƖ desires is lessened.

    Men are less internally conflicted.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #82 on: March 17, 2018, 01:57:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 01:46:42 PM
    Most women are flaky, which is somewhat of a counter to the lust within themselves. The lust is still there but, many times, there are conflicting emotions and drives, so the realization of them carrying through with their sɛҳuąƖ desires is lessened.
    They must really be flaky for they can have their way with any man with a pulse any time. No. I do not think that flakiness is the answer.

    If a man could have his way with women, the same way that women can have their way with men, we would spend our every waking hour "getting our way".
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #83 on: March 17, 2018, 02:11:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
    They must really be flaky for they can have their way with any man with a pulse any time. No. I do not think that flakiness is the answer.

    If a man could have his way with women, the same way that women can have their way with men, we would spend our every waking hour "getting our way".
    But it's their flakiness preventing many of the opportunities they have to get with a man. Their lust is still there, but something within themselves prevents it from happening.

    Men don't have the inhibitions and conflicting thoughts, emotions and drives of women. Thus, usually, men stay the course in their sɛҳuąƖ pursuit of women. Women have the lust to initiate or accept proposals, but their inner conflict will, many times, stop it from being fully realized.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #84 on: March 17, 2018, 02:47:20 PM »
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    • Cantarella is a woman and she confirmed my observations and added to my details ( indeed,too many details and examples).

    There is not one woman (or man) here who has elaborated how a woman's reaction to a young athletic man without a shirt actually turns into sin, what actually transpires in detail.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #85 on: March 17, 2018, 02:58:41 PM »
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    • Most men of the world will go after anything with a pulse, if it is easy. It does not mean that a woman is pretty or intelligent.


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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #86 on: March 17, 2018, 03:44:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on March 17, 2018, 10:47:36 AM
    It was this Fanny by the way, who also made the indecorous comment that those women who are not "frigid", would be tempted to impurity by the sight of men. It was only Fanny ( :laugh1: ) who said that, not "many women" in this thread. I disagree. I believe it is part of the ultra - egalitarian revolution that the sexes are not "that different" to pretend that women have the same temptations than the men when it comes to sins of lust or that their needs for sɛҳuąƖ release are the same. As I said before, the temptation is more a pride issue. Last Tradhican is correct when he says is more a self - esteem issue for women. That is why women flirt, not necessarily because they are "undressing the men in their minds and all that", but because they falsely feel better about themselves when receiving validation from the men.

    It is also a power issue. I would be willing to bet that that the motivation of that "cougar" that Croix de Fer had such an experience with, was not a physical inclination per se; but more of a desperate attempt of hers to feel she "is still got it" and that she has some imaginary power over him. This motivation comes from broken women who realize they have absolutely nothing to offer to a man; but her sex. I agree it is absolutely pathetic.  
    Women have been brainwashed big time in a drive to destroy society. Pretty much everyone in the world today is brainwashed. It is only by God's Grace that some find their way out of it or even see it.  Very few find their way out. Today, for instance in my SSPX chapel there are few good examples for the young girls, their own parents are brainwashed.

    I went through it practically all my life, till I was in my 40's. I saw nothing wrong. As a clean example I bring forward this story below:

    When I was a teen, I played on the high school football team where all the boys showered together naked in open showers. Even the coaches showered with us. I thought nothing of it. It was a public school, as I never went to Catholic schools. There was however, one player that would never shower, he was black and was one of the 300+ pounders. The team was about 70% black. Everyone thought that he was an oddball for not showering, and made jokes about him. I later found out that he had transferred from a Catholic school, and thinking back I realize that he was the only person, including the coaches in their 50's, that was not brainwashed. 

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #87 on: March 17, 2018, 04:10:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 14, 2018, 11:42:51 AM
    A lady here on CI, who I respect, said that"male immodesty tempts  feminine women".

    In the context of the subject we were discussing: female immodesty in dress, I would answer that women are not tempted to sin in the same way as men are. I would say that male immodesty may attract some women, but I would not say it tempts them to sin.

    I'll be blunt, when a man of the world sees a young good looking well figured girl dressed provocatively, they immediately mentally strip her of her clothes  and fantisize or begin to plan on how to have relations with them. That is a mortal sin.

    "Whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28).

    For a Catholic man, when they sees such a girl, a temptation, they must turn away and try to get the image out of their minds in order not to sin.

    I do not think women have the same problem. I think that women might be attracted by a "a young good looking well figured man dressed provocatively", but they are not tempted to sin as a man is.

    I'm glad this OP didn't ironically complain about male immodesty by showing us an immodest "hunk" in much the same way the recent complaining OP on female immodesty showed us the two sexy pics of Marilyn Monroe, the far worse of the two having been subsequently and rightfully removed.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #88 on: March 17, 2018, 04:44:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 17, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
    That's not what they said at all.  They said that a reasonable number of women, those who are not "frigid", would be tempted to impurity by the sight of men.  And the actual number is probably relatively high, since many of them would not even admit being tempted this way because women are not "supposed to" be like that.  In order to commit a mortal sin against purity, by the way, it's not necessary to get to the point of "fantasizing about having relations".  Taking venereal pleasure in the sight is enough.  That's impure thought.  When someone gets to the point of fantasizing, that's in the category of impure desire.
    I believe it was only one woman who said this. You can add me to the tally of those who disagree with this being the norm for women.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #89 on: March 17, 2018, 04:51:01 PM »
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    I'm glad this OP didn't ironically complain about male immodesty by showing us an immodest "hunk"
    Please post where I complained about male immodesty?

    On the contrary, I do not believe that "topless" men, men not wearing shirts, is male immodesty, nor a temptation to the sin for women. I just think it is men working outdoors, men at the beach, men with no class or bums like in the case of someone just walking around with no shirt. A picture of a topless man would be a temptation to gαy men.

     
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