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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2018, 08:43:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 16, 2018, 06:53:28 PM
    Not only are women tempted to lust by seeing shirtless men, they're tempted by seeing fully clothed men. 
    I disagree, based on my experience, you are not concluding correctly.

    A  man of the world sees a shirtless young woman and he will either fantasize or start planning to seduce the girl, both mortal sins. His objective is strictly to "seduce".

    A woman of the world sees a shirtless young man and she will dream of having him for a boyfriend to show to all her friends how pretty she is because she attracted this handsome man. If she just wants a one night stand, it is again because attracting men is where she gets her sense of self worth it is how she gages her beauty. It is not about lust, it is about self esteem. It is part of her fallen nature and it is what likely her mother taught her too, that their beauty is gaged by how men react to them.

    Notice that I am talking about men and women of the world. I do that to differentiate them from real Catholic women and men.

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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #61 on: March 17, 2018, 09:13:34 AM »
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    A  man of the world sees a shirtless young woman and he will either fantasize or start planning to seduce the girl, both mortal sins. His objective is strictly to "seduce".
    I think this is generally true, 99% of the time.


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    A woman of the world sees a shirtless young man and she will dream of having him for a boyfriend to show to all her friends how pretty she is because she attracted this handsome man.
    That's probably true 75% of the time, but some women have temptations similar to men.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #62 on: March 17, 2018, 09:23:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 17, 2018, 09:13:34 AM
    ... some women have temptations similar to men.

    Look, we've had women chime in on this thread and agree with this statement.
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #63 on: March 17, 2018, 09:48:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 17, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
    Look, we've had women chime in on this thread and agree with this statement: "that some women have temptations similar to men"
    Then they are saying that some women of the world sees a shirtless young man and she will either fantasize having relations with the young man or start planning to actually seduce the young man, both mortal sins. Her objective is strictly to "seduce", just like a man.

    Nothing is 100%. But from my experience, I do not think that the percentage of women who think like men is much higher that say the percentage of Lesbians. 

    [Some women are lesbians, so they pursue women. Some men are sodomites so they pursue men. But even there, they behave differently. A male will pursue everything in sight each hour because their "prey" (other sodomites) are also pursuing everything in sight. A female lesbian does not do that, they strictly seek one partner at a time]. 



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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #64 on: March 17, 2018, 09:50:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 08:43:18 AM
    I disagree, based on my experience, you are not concluding correctly.

    Funny how you ignore my own experiences with, and observations of, women, then declare I'm "not concluding correctly" while keeping your own myopic "experiences" to "validate" your (weak) argument.

    I, also, have many more experiences of being the object of lust from women, who come from different demographics, spanning over time. So it's not a few behavioral oddities from a certain class of chicks, rather, the harlots were from of a wide range of socioeconomic, educational, racial, religious, and age backgrounds.

    Another example was when I was at a wake preceding a funeral, and some aspiring slutty cougar under the cloak of  "rendering comfort", which is normal behavior at funerals, initiated embracing me and seductively bit my cheek as she kissed me. It was pathetic.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #65 on: March 17, 2018, 09:50:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
    Then they are saying that some women of the world sees a shirtless young man and she will either fantasize having relations ...

    That's not what they said at all.  They said that a reasonable number of women, those who are not "frigid", would be tempted to impurity by the sight of men.  And the actual number is probably relatively high, since many of them would not even admit being tempted this way because women are not "supposed to" be like that.  In order to commit a mortal sin against purity, by the way, it's not necessary to get to the point of "fantasizing about having relations".  Taking venereal pleasure in the sight is enough.  That's impure thought.  When someone gets to the point of fantasizing, that's in the category of impure desire.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #66 on: March 17, 2018, 09:58:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
    This is a strawman.
    No, it's not a strawman.

    Earlier in this thread or another recent one similar to it, "Fanny" ( :laugh1: ) mentioned I should treat women as "delicate flowers", basically for the mere sake of them being women, regardless of their character.

    Did you learn a new word ("strawman")? Look, brah, I know you're anxious to declare "strawman argument" as a rebuttal after learning it for the first time, but you need to use it when it actually applies. Good luck, next time.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #67 on: March 17, 2018, 10:03:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 08:43:18 AM
    Quote from: Croix de Fer on Yesterday at 06:53:28 PM
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    Not only are women tempted to lust by seeing shirtless men, they're tempted by seeing fully clothed men.
    .I disagree, based on my experience, you are not concluding correctly.
    If you are not a woman you have no experience.  You are using a male mind to try to judge a woman's thoughts.  Good luck with that!
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #68 on: March 17, 2018, 10:09:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on March 17, 2018, 10:03:05 AM
    .I disagree, based on my experience, you are not concluding correctly.

    If you are not a woman you have no experience.  You are using a male mind to try to judge a woman's thoughts.  Good luck with that!

    Your argument is illogical. When a man grabs a woman's behind, are you saying you don't know his motivation for doing it, simply because you're not a man? Why would a woman doing it to a man be any different?

    Also, why did you put Last Tradhican's comment inside my quote box as if I said it?
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #69 on: March 17, 2018, 10:16:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 09:50:43 AM
    Funny how you ignore my own experiences with, and observations of, women, then declare I'm "not concluding correctly" while keeping your own myopic "experiences" to "validate" your (weak) argument.
    In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King.

    Your experiences are puerile. They are puerile because you raise them to be something special and one of a kind, when your experiences are typical of any man of the world. Your conclusions however, on the points  that I brought, are wrong.

    To me, watching you write is like watching a Jerry Lewis movie, exasperating. You are publicly making a fool of yourself by spelling out, bragging about your "experiences". I recommend that you scrap and change your name here on CI and start over again, and re-make yourself. Like in the movie "Ground Hog Day", you can totally change your mistakes.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #70 on: March 17, 2018, 10:19:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
    In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King.

    Your experiences are puerile. They are puerile because you raise them to be something special and one of a kind, when your experiences are typical of any man of the world. Your conclusions however, on the points  that I brought, are wrong.

    To me, watching you write is like watching a Jerry Lewis movie, exasperating. You are publicly making a fool of yourself. I recommend that you scrap and change your name here on CI and start over again, and re-make yourself. Like in the movie "Ground Hog Day", you can totally change your mistakes.

    Ad hominem fallacy.

    You can't refute anything I've said, so you use a lame narrative as a diversion.

    Try again.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #71 on: March 17, 2018, 10:26:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 17, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
    That's not what they said at all.  They said that a reasonable number of women, those who are not "frigid", would be tempted to impurity by the sight of men.  And the actual number is probably relatively high,
    They are tempted to impurity and the actual number is very high? What does that mean? How does this impurity that is brought about by a shirtless man look like? Spell it out. How does the mortal sin come to be?
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #72 on: March 17, 2018, 10:34:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 10:19:11 AM
    Ad hominem fallacy.
    You are the one bragging about your sɛҳuąƖ exploits, your experiences. I was only pointing out to you that your experiences are nothing that any male schlump of the world has not had. The fact that you brag about them as if they were special, shows that you are  just a "one eyed man".

    "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King".
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #73 on: March 17, 2018, 10:42:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on March 17, 2018, 10:03:05 AM
    If you are not a woman you have no experience.  You are using a male mind to try to judge a woman's thoughts.  Good luck with that!
    Your response is worthless, because you do not explain anything.

    I showed exactly how a man is tempted to sin by a topless woman, what the objective of the man is, and what the sin is. I explained the same a woman.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #74 on: March 17, 2018, 10:47:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 09:58:35 AM
    Earlier in this thread or another recent one similar to it, "Fanny" ( :laugh1: ) mentioned I should treat women as "delicate flowers", basically for the mere sake of them being women, regardless of their character.

    It was this Fanny by the way, who also made the indecorous comment that those women who are not "frigid", would be tempted to impurity by the sight of men. It was only Fanny ( :laugh1: ) who said that, not "many women" in this thread. I disagree. I believe it is part of the ultra - egalitarian revolution that the sexes are not "that different" to pretend that women have the same temptations than the men when it comes to sins of lust or that their needs for sɛҳuąƖ release are the same. As I said before, the temptation is more a pride issue. Last Tradhican is correct when he says is more a self - esteem issue for women. That is why women flirt, not necessarily because they are "undressing the men in their minds and all that", but because they falsely feel better about themselves when receiving validation from the men.

    It is also a power issue. I would be willing to bet that that the motivation of that "cougar" that Croix de Fer had such an experience with, was not a physical inclination per se; but more of a desperate attempt of hers to feel she "is still got it" and that she has some imaginary power over him. This motivation comes from broken women who realize they have absolutely nothing to offer to a man; but her sex. I agree it is absolutely pathetic.  

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