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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2018, 10:24:37 AM »
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  • My Capuchin priest for the first 10 years after I came back to the Church was ordained in 1953. He had served in the missions in the South Pacific Islands. One day we were discussing the incident involving JPII in the South Pacific giving communion to a topless native. The lady was older and fat and totally unattractive, a sin against charity. We talked a while and he started to tell me about the topless native girls. He said that almost all of them were not a temptation since there was nothing obscuring the realities of nature and child birth and gravity. He said that the young teens were where there was a big problem, and that it was a constant fight for all the priests.

    I find it hard to believe that a woman would be "turned on" at seeing a man shirtless or in shorts, specially the men that most often go shirtless, sweaty dirty men who work under the Sun. Personally, I no longer go shirtless, nor do I wear shorts when I work. I do not go shirtless because I can stay cleaner and drier with a t-shirt that I can dunk in a bucket of water to cool down, or I can change. I do not wear shorts because of the mosquitos, fire ants, spiders, thorns, poison ivy, dirt, oil.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #31 on: March 15, 2018, 10:33:53 AM »
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  • You say that because you weren't able to refute the facts that I stated. Instead, you grant yourself a waiver to the duty of refutation and claim "that's too graphic".



    "Fanny" :laugh1:
    If you were to treat women as the delicate flowers they should be, you might not have such disdain for them.

    Just because this is a public forum does not mean it needs to contain filth.  As a Catholic forum we are supposed to set the example for others to follow and, knowing this is a mixed company forum, extra caution should be taken.

    You sound like a man who has been spurned by a woman, more than once.  I am sorry for you.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #32 on: March 15, 2018, 10:43:58 AM »
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  • If you were to treat women as the delicate flowers they should be, you might not have such disdain for them.
    Sluts, feminists and modern women who consent to fαɢɢօtry don't deserve to be treated as delicate flowers. They should be ignored until they espouse their filth and error, which will then require correcting them and calling them out as social & spiritual virons.

    Only virtuous women deserve to be treated like princesses and delicate flowers.


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    You sound like a man who has been spurned by a woman, more than once.  I am sorry for you.

    Wrong analysis and lame narrative.

    It's sorta the other way around, although I don't deliberately spurn women to hurt them. Two women have actually gone insane when they knew they couldn't have me. True story.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #33 on: March 15, 2018, 10:46:08 AM »
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  • Cantarela,

    That makes more sense to me and jibes with my experience in life. Thank you.

    I could always tell the day a girl loses her virginity by the great change in them. Where they were before that day flirting with all the boys, high on the pedestal. The next day, they look crestfallen, like they have been disemboweled of the joys of their youth. If women were like men in their temptations, then those girls would have been ecstatic the next day after their "conquest". Not a one ever was.

    I think that is because they realize that they just lost their most precious asset. If they knew the true male nature, they would not have been so foolish. Fathers used to warn daughters about such facts in life.

    Regardless of what the current world says, everyone knows that the true worth of a woman is intrinsically connected to her chastity. Sadly, many women have this realization too late in life. Even outside the religious context, the flower of virginity is supposed to be given to a man within the context of MARRIAGE and long-life commitment. That is the only man who truly deserves it. A man who will provide for you, protect you, be the father of your children, etc. That is the only man who deserves your body, period. That is also, one of the reasons of the importance of modesty in dress, as well. Slutty and loose women lower the real value of woman in general. They betray their gender.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #34 on: March 15, 2018, 11:18:58 AM »
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  • I don't recall any monastery working in coal mines, building iron bridges and logging trees in humid environments, nor have I ever seen a monk run a marathon or race a bike 150 miles in his habit.
    The Monks of Beauchief Abbey were still mining the coal at Smotherfly, Alfreton, in Derbyshire around 1335.


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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #35 on: March 15, 2018, 11:21:30 AM »
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  • I don't recall any monastery working in coal mines, building iron bridges and logging trees in humid environments, nor have I ever seen a monk run a marathon or race a bike 150 miles in his habit.
    Bhutan's iron bridge, built originally by a 16th-century monk, Thangton Gyelpo.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #36 on: March 15, 2018, 11:25:56 AM »
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  • I don't recall any monastery working in coal mines, building iron bridges and logging trees in humid environments, nor have I ever seen a monk run a marathon or race a bike 150 miles in his habit.

    Monks logging trees?
    You need a picture for that?
    How do you think all those wood monasteries were built and all their cells?

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #37 on: March 15, 2018, 11:27:51 AM »
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  • I don't recall any monastery working in coal mines, building iron bridges and logging trees in humid environments, nor have I ever seen a monk run a marathon or race a bike 150 miles in his habit.

    Monks are not supposed to participate in such races.  Don't you know anything?


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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #38 on: March 15, 2018, 11:33:11 AM »
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  • Croix de Fer and all of those taking him seriously and debating with him about really, nothing,  have started to ruin this thread with these digressions and inane arguments. The thread is becoming like: blah, blah, blah, blah , a good posting by Cantarella, blah blah blah, blah blah, a good posting by Matthew, blah, blah blah...

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #39 on: March 15, 2018, 11:40:34 AM »
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  • Croix de Fer and all of those taking him seriously and debating with him about really, nothing,  have started to ruin this thread with these digressions and inane arguments. The thread is becoming like: blah, blah, blah, blah , a good posting by Cantarella, blah blah blah, blah blah, a good posting by Matthew, blah, blah blah...



    You may think that we should not say anything to Croix De Fer (unless it meets with your approval).

    He may not listen, it's true. But then again....maybe he will. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #40 on: March 15, 2018, 12:04:52 PM »
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  • You may think that we should not say anything to Croix De Fer (unless it meets with your approval).
    It has nothing to do with meeting my approval, it has to do with what I stated,  I don't know why anyone takes him seriously.

    I guess the difference between those arguing with him  and I is that they take him seriously. 
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #41 on: March 15, 2018, 02:46:17 PM »
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  • I think that is because they realize that they just lost their most precious asset. If they knew the true male nature, they would not have been so foolish. Fathers used to warn daughters about such facts in life.

    Regardless of what the current world says, everyone knows that the true worth of a woman is intrinsically connected to her chastity. Sadly, many women have this realization too late in life. Even outside the religious context, the flower of virginity is supposed to be given to a man within the context of MARRIAGE and long-life commitment. That is the only man who truly deserves it. A man who will provide for you, protect you, be the father of your children, etc. That is the only man who deserves your body, period. That is also, one of the reasons of the importance of modesty in dress, as well. Slutty and loose women lower the real value of woman in general. They betray their gender.
    Reminds me of Tobias & Sarah
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #42 on: March 16, 2018, 08:07:28 AM »
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  • Ok, if Ladislaus and Croix de Fer could "take it outside" that would be great.

    I tried to clean up the thread a bit. It's a very important thread on a very important topic. It doesn't need sidetracks and bickering.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #43 on: March 16, 2018, 08:28:45 AM »
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  • Monks are not supposed to participate in such races.  Don't you know anything?
    :facepalm:

    So don't expect laymen who train for competitive races to follow stringent dress attire a la monks, especially in hot, humid weather.

    Again, you miss the point.

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    "Fanny" :laugh1: says:
    Bhutan's iron bridge, built originally by a 16th-century monk, Thangton Gyelpo.
    You referenced a faithless pagan - Buddhist monk. Are Catholics supposed to follow the examples of dumb idolaters? Moreover, were you alive in the 16th century? How do you know he didn't build the bridge shirtless? Shaolin monks perform martial arts shirtless.

    You lose, again
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #44 on: March 16, 2018, 08:52:17 AM »
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  • The Monks of Beauchief Abbey were still mining the coal at Smotherfly, Alfreton, in Derbyshire around 1335.

    Poor example. It doesn't get hot in England, much less, hot and humid.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)