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augustineeens · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2022, 02:11:09 PM »

Quote from: SolHero on March 01, 2022, 01:27:29 PM

I'm new to Traditional Catholicism and this would be for me, my first Lent after discovering Tradition. As a NO, my family would abstain from meat on all Fridays, not just lent. For Lent we also would fast from something else like soda, coffee, beer/alcohol, desserts, etc. I agree that NO fast guidelines are watered down and for me, pointless. Even secular people who practice intermittent fasting have a stricter fast than the NO fasting guidelines suggest.

Do you know of any tips for fasting as a Traditional Catholic?

Follow the traditional fast before it was destroyed by the modernists: https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/think-lent-tough-take-look-medieval-lenten-practices

Ladislaus · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2022, 02:33:36 PM »

Quote from: ByzCat3000 on March 01, 2022, 02:02:56 PM

So if I understand your view correctly, while you personally would follow the traditional fast and would consider that to be the only wise option, you presumably wouldn’t confess it as a mortal sin if you had meat on a Lenten Thursday, since you aren’t certain on the pope question, correct?

Yes. While I hold that it's likely that the V2 papal claimants have been imposters and frauds, even under sedeprivationism it's likely that Antipopes would have the authority to life the fasting obligation. I intend to keep the fast regardless but it's not possible to impose "mortal sin" on people's consciences.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2022, 05:00:12 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on March 01, 2022, 08:28:16 AM

I promise to stop posting after you learn Catholicism 101. Deal?

Not only is your "teaching" full of half-truths and outright errors, Lad very well could have forgotten more about the Faith than you are ever likely to know. Have a blessed and fruitful Lent, one and all.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2022, 05:16:05 PM »

Today’s Latin Catholics would be well-served to review the norms of early Christians as they prepared for Easter.
The Lenten fast for Latin Catholics living in the years of the third millennium of Christianity often means swapping out the lunchtime burger for a Filet-o-Fish, and attending Stations of the Cross sporadically. But the Church has, up to the time of major reforms in the 1960s, encouraged its children to not do the bare minimum, but to immerse themselves in the spirit of Lenten penance.
The requirements and practices during the first millennium after Our Lord were extraordinarily stringent by today’s terms, having been relaxed bit by bit, until they are almost nonexistent today. Archbishop Lefebvre noted this in a letter written to faithful in 1982:

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The faithful who have a true spirit of faith and who profoundly understand the motives of the Church…will wholeheartedly accomplish not only the light prescriptions of today but, entering into the spirit of Our Lord and of the Blessed Virgin Mary, will endeavor to make reparation for the sins which they have committed and for the sins of their family, their neighbors, friends and fellow citizens."

Today, only the Eastern Christian churches (many of which are not in communion with Rome) practice austerity during Lent, albeit unevenly. For instance, meat, fish, dairy, and oil are generally prohibited during the Lenten season, though there are few restrictions on the amount of Lenten-approved food that may be consumed. Moreover, certain fasting disciplines are subject to regional practice and cultural variations with local priests and bishops having more direct say in offering dispensations for those entrusted to their care.
Black Fasts and Watery Beer
We can learn much from our Latin ancestors’ observance of the Lenten Quadragesima and perhaps follow their example; if not entirely in practice, at least in spirit, as recommended by the Archbishop. In a recent post on his site, Dr. Taylor Marshall, a former Episcopalian priest who is now Catholic, collected the rules for Lenten penance as described by St. Thomas Aquinas:

Ash Wednesday and Good Friday were “black fasts.” These consisted of taking only one meal per day of bread, water, and herbs, after sunset.
Other days of Lent: no food until 3pm, the hour of Our Lord’s death. Water was allowed, and as was the case for the time due to sanitary concerns, watered-down beer and wine. After the advent of tea and coffee, these beverages were permitted.
No animal meats or fats.
No eggs.
No dairy products (lacticinia) – that is, eggs, milk, cheese, cream, butter, etc.
Sundays were days of less liturgical discipline, but the fasting rules above remained.

Baking Bread (detail) in a psalter by an unknown illuminator, Belgium, mid-1200s. J. Paul Getty Museum
Bread, Salt, Vegetables
Essentially, medieval Western Christians subsisted on bread, vegetables and some salt during Lent. Fish was permitted, though uncommon. This was consistent with the desire of the Church for its faithful to refrain from flesh meat (St. Thomas equates Our Lord giving up His Flesh for us) and to strive for greater control over our own bodies, with abstinence from the marriage act as an additional form of self-mortification.
Beyond the daily penances, the Triduum was more severe than even the “Black Fast” mentioned earlier. The Good Friday fast began as early as sundown on Maunday Thursday, lasting through the noon hour on Holy Saturday – when the early Church performed the Easter Vigil.
But as early as 800 A.D., the 3pm fasting time was generally moved more towards noon. In fact, “noon” is a derivative of “Nones,” the 9th hour of the Divine Office, said at about 3pm. Why do we call 12pm “noon” and not 3pm? During Lent, the monasteries would often move the recitation of nones as early as 12pm, in order to provide the working monks and laborers an opportunity to break their fast earlier in the day. Hence the exclamation by exhausted brothers and laborers of “Nones!” entering the vernacular. A remnant of this shift is still detectable in the rubrics for reciting the Roman Breviary up until the 1960s; None was prescribed to be recited in the morning before Mass.
Cathedrals Built on Dairy
There is some confusion on the matter of dairy—some writings of early monks in the 6th century mentioned the taking of milk during Lent. Whether rules fluctuated or this was simply because of lack of any other food is unclear. But at least by the time of St. Thomas Aquinas in the 13th century, this was a norm.
It is interesting to note, however, that records dating back to 900 A.D. show that German Catholics could receive permission to consume dairy in return for good works, or a contribution to a pious work – known as Butterbriefe. Several churches are said to have been partially built by the proceeds of such exemptions. One of the steeples of Rouen cathedral was for this reason known as the "Butter Tower."
This general prohibition of eggs and milk during Lent is perpetuated in the common custom of blessing or making gifts of eggs at Easter, and in the English usage of eating pancakes on Shrove Tuesday – a way to use up the eggs and milk before the Lenten fast. Hence the colloquial term still used by some today of “Pancake Tuesday.”
From Watered-Down Beer to Watered Down Penance
Gradually, papal indults would give way to an abrogation of these fasting rules on Sundays, and the allowance of meat at least once on all the days of Lent except Fridays and Ash Wednesday.
A small meal after the main “break fast” at Nones was eventually allowed in the evening, during which Cassian’s book Collationes was read, giving rise to the term "collation" used for the small snack allowed during fast days.
Finally, Pope Paul VI’s Apostolic Constitution Paenitemini reduced Lenten practice to two lines: No meat allowed on Fridays in Lent, and 1 meal with 2 collations allowed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
While Archbishop Lefebvre did not recommend a reverse to the practices of the 13th century, we can certainly take his words as encouragement to follow a more strict observance of the spirit of Lent.

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Would we dare to say that this necessity is less important in our day and age than in former times? On the contrary, we can and we must affirm that today, more than ever before, prayer and penance are necessary because everything possible has been done to diminish and despise these two fundamental elements of Christian life.”

Sources: Dr. Taylor Marshall - Catholic Encyclopedia - sspx.org - 2018-02-21

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2022, 05:26:15 PM »

4 Lenten traditions from your Irish grandma

Alan James | CC BY SA 2.0
IRELAND. Croagh Patrick

Philip Kosloski - published on 02/08/18

"The land of saints and scholars" has its share of Lenten traditions.
Over the centuries various traditions were developed to commemorate the holy season of Lent and to help parishioners embrace its spiritual character. This was expressed in different ways throughout the world.

The people of Ireland, “the land of saints and scholars,” have their share of traditions passed down from one generation to the next.
Here are four such traditions that your Irish grandma would have been familiar with.
Shrovetide
During the week prior to Lent the Irish had various traditions to prepare for the penitential season. It was customary, as in other places, to confess your sins to a priest. Shrovetide was also seen as a time to clear the house of food that couldn’t be consumed during Lent. For the Irish this meant, “Pancake Day” on the Tuesday before Lent, where everyone would make pancakes with the soon-to-be-forbidden ingredients — eggs, butter, and milk.

Additionally there was a tradition known as “Clipping Thursday.” Hair and nails were trimmed prior to Lent, as they wouldn’t be trimmed until Holy Thursday. This some people did in honor of Christ’s Passion.
Lenten sacrifices

Lent in Ireland is a time to give up various pleasures for 40 days. Smoking and drinking in particular were signaled out as activities that would be abstained from during Lent. People were also encouraged to observe other personal sacrifices during the solemn season.
Fasting was also especially rigorous in Ireland, with many different foods forbidden, such as meat, butter, eggs, and dairy. Three days in particular were days of a “black fast,” where little food was eaten. This included Ash Wednesday, Spy Wednesday (Wednesday of Holy Week), and Good Friday.
St. Patrick’s Day
The one respite during Lent was always St. Patrick’s Day. It is a day of great celebration in remembrance of the “Apostle of Ireland.” All sacrifices are suspended for this joyous solemnity. Hymns, such as “St. Patrick’s Breastplate,” are sung in all the churches in honor of St. Patrick and it is a holy day of obligation.
Crosses and shamrocks are worn in honor of St. Patrick and his missionary deeds in the country.
Penitential pilgrimage
Ireland has a long history of pilgrimage to holy sites both during and outside Lent in atonement for sins. In fact, it dates back to the time of St. Patrick when he spent the 40 days of Lent on Croagh Patrick.
There are a number of paths in Ireland that were frequented by medieval penitents and recently these routes are receiving renewed interest as a pilgrimage route similar to the Camino in Europe.

Nadir · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2022, 12:58:23 AM »

Ash Wednesday: The Start of Penance

Rachel L. Lozowski

Receiving ashes to begin Lent

Like a rich incense the spirit of Lent permeated Christendom in the past, leaving a deep impression on all people, laity and clergy alike, because of the changes that it brought in every home – from the King's palace to the peasant's cottage.

In southern Germany and Austria, bells tolled at midnight on Shrove Tuesday in cities and towns to sound the beginning of Lent. In the morning, the bells rang again in a mournful tone to announce the Ash Wednesday Mass and the distribution of ashes. (1)

Old, young, healthy & sick receive their ashes in a church in Southern Germany

Ash Wednesday was taken very seriously by Catholics; it was a day to publicly acknowledge sin, mortality and the need for penance. The medieval man received ashes on his head after the office of None and the solemn blessing of the ashes.

After receiving the ashes, the people often walked in procession to another church to pray there before processing back to their parish church to assist at Mass. Some went barefoot during this procession in the spirit of penance. In the 12^th century, there are records of the Pope himself processing barefoot followed by his Cardinals. (2)

The blessed ashes were such a cherished Sacramental that the faithful often found ways to bring them to the sick and infirm. Polish priests visited the houses of the sick and infirm to administer ashes to the homebound.

The faithful of Germany pressed their ash-marked foreheads against the heads of family members who were unable to go to church so that all could share in the blessings of the ashes.

Ash Wednesday brought preparations for Holy Week in many Northern European countries. The people collected pussy willow branches and placed them in vases of water in their houses so that they would bud on time for Palm Sunday.

These beautiful branches were used in place of palms in these countries for the Palm Sunday procession. They also served as a beautiful reminder of the approach of the joyous days of Easter and an encouragement for all to persevere in their Lenten penances.

Penitential processions

Penitential processions were a common sight in cities and villages throughout all of Lent. During Fridays and Wednesdays in the Middle Ages, the priests led a procession to a stational church while chanting the Litany of Saints in a sorrowful tone. When they arrived at the church the priests prostrated and said the Prayers and Suffrages. After these solemn supplications, the Mass began. (3) In monasteries, the monks processed barefoot in the cloister. (4)

A penitencial procession in Tournai, 1349

Many confraternities in Latin countries continue to have dramatic processions throughout Lent. The Portuguese Lenten processions are particularly moving with their emphasis on relieving the Holy Souls.

In the Portuguese town of Freixo de Espada à Cinta, a somber "Procession of Seven Steps" takes place at midnight on the seven Fridays between Carnival and Easter Sunday. At the chosen hour, 12 chimes ring from the church tower signaling that all the lights in the town must be extinguished, leaving everything in complete darkness.

Three men wearing black robes begin the procession at the Matrix Church. Two men lead the procession dragging chains attached to their feet. They are followed by a man called the "Old Woman" who walks slowly and hunched over carrying a flask of wine and a cane in one hand and a candle in the other

The flask of wine & light carried by the 'Old Woman' in the Procession of Seven Steps

In a gesture of forgiveness, the "Old Woman" gives a drink of wine to those who confess their sorrow for their sins. The wine is symbolic of the Blood of Christ.

The procession stops at chosen chapels where men in black robes belonging to the confraternity of the "Order of Souls" sing solemn hymns in Portuguese and Latin asking God to pardon the souls in Purgatory. The procession ends where it began, in the Matrix Church. (5)

The Portuguese people are also reminded of their duty to pray for the dead during Lent by a solemn call made late in the night by groups of men and women who walk through the villages and cities chanting the Dies Irae or traditional dirges calling all to rise from their beds and pray. Miranda do Douro, the traditional song for this occasion, has stirring lyrics:

   Awake, sinners, awake and sleep no longer;
   Remember the souls of your fathers who burn in flames
   Who left their property to you who remember them no more. (6)

Almsgiving & special devotions

The poor souls in Purgatory were not the only souls who benefited from the charitable practices of Lent; the poor living on this earth were also remembered by good Catholics. Kings and nobles throughout Christendom deprived themselves of their usual delicacies in order to give more alms to the poor.

A Lenten procession led
by Pope St. Gregory the Great in Rome

As Catholics diligently carried out their alms deeds, their thoughts turned towards Our Lord's sufferings and they sought ways in this Penitential Season to be united more intimately with Him. Each region developed unique ceremonies and devotions that expressed the ardent sentiments of the peoples' souls.

The Stations of the Cross, the most traditional devotion, were performed with much solemnity in Cathedrals and parish churches. In addition to the weekly Stations of the Cross, parish or missionary priests often gave retreats for parishioners during Lent delivering sermons calling for penance and reform of life. At the retreat end, the people went to Confession and received their Communion.

In Rome, the stational church at which Mass was said changed each day. The zealous faithful of Rome strewed the street of the day's station with sand and boxwood eagerly awaiting the solemn procession that led the Pope and his entourage to the church. Beggars lined the streets and the church steps to ask for alms, trusting in the people's charity during this Holy Season. (7)

On each evening of Lent in Greece, a man known as the Toumbakaris walked through the streets beating a drum to call all to the Lenten vigil (an all night vigil in the church attended by many of the faithful). (8)

The Poles sang special Lenten hymns all through Lent to show their deep compassion for Our Savior. The most solemn of these were turned into a ceremony known as Gorzkie Zale (Lenten Lamentations) held at the church on Sunday or Friday evenings. These moving hymns, cherished even in our day, reflect the natural melancholy and poetry of the Polish soul. (9)

A cock crowing, from a medieval manuscript

In the British Palace, a charming change was made in the office of watchman that reminded all within the precincts of the Palace of St. Peter's betrayal and repentance. An officer was chosen to be the "King's Cock Crower" or "Cockerel;" his duty was to announce the hour each night by imitating the crowing of a cock. This practice was sadly discontinued in the reign of Charles I, an event that is recorded here.

The presence of the Cock Crower only during the season of Lent gave the alarming crowing more significance as it announced to the impenitent sinner his need for penance:

"Had the practice continued throughout the year, the impenitent would become as habituated and as indifferent to the crow of the mimic cock as they are to that of the real one, or to the cry of the watchmen. The adaptation to the precincts of the Court seems also to have had a view, as if the Institutor (probably the Royal Confessor) had considered that the greater and more obdurate sinners resided within the purlieus of the Palace." (10)

These customs and ceremonies show how, with a Catholic spirit, men can transform even acts of penance and sorrow into beautiful realities. The prayer, almsgiving and fasting that Catholics perform during Lent were manifested exteriorly and even ceremoniously in their customs and way of being. The examples from the past give us a guide to follow and build upon in order to make daily life a reflection of the Church's liturgical spirit.

A Lenten procession in Rome

Francis X Weiser, The Easter Book (San Diego, California: The Firefly Press, 1996), p. 33.
Dom Prosper Guéranger, The Liturgical Year, vol. IV (Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire, Loreto Publications, 2013) p. 205.
See sicutincensum.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/voyages-liturgiques-rogation-processions-in-rouen-6/
Guéranger, The Liturgical Year, vol. V, p. 28.
https://www.portugalnummapa.com/procissao-dos-sete-passos/
Rodney Gallop, Portugal: A Book of Folk Ways (Cambridge: University Press, 1961), p. 183.
William S. Walsh, Curiosities of Popular Customs of Rites, Ceremonies, Observances and Miscellaneous Antiquities (Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott Company, 1898), p. 616.
George A. Megas, Greek Calendar Customs (Athens: B. and M. Rhodis, 1963), p. 76.
Sophie Hodorowicz Knab, Polish Customs, Traditions and Folklore (New York: Hippocrene Books, 1996), p. 83-84.
T. F. Thiselton-Dyer, British Popular Customs, Present and Past; Illustrating the Social and Domestic Manners of the People (London: George Bell and Sons, 1876), p. 93.

Miser Peccator · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2022, 01:25:07 AM »

Quote from: Nadir on March 03, 2022, 12:58:23 AM

Ash Wednesday: The Start of Penance
Rachel L. Lozowski
Receiving ashes to begin Lent
Like a rich incense the spirit of Lent permeated Christendom in the past, leaving a deep impression on all people, laity and clergy alike, because of the changes that it brought in every home – from the King's palace to the peasant's cottage.

In southern Germany and Austria, bells tolled at midnight on Shrove Tuesday in cities and towns to sound the beginning of Lent. In the morning, the bells rang again in a mournful tone to announce the Ash Wednesday Mass and the distribution of ashes. (1)

Old, young, healthy & sick receive their ashes in a church in Southern Germany
Ash Wednesday was taken very seriously by Catholics; it was a day to publicly acknowledge sin, mortality and the need for penance. The medieval man received ashes on his head after the office of None and the solemn blessing of the ashes.

After receiving the ashes, the people often walked in procession to another church to pray there before processing back to their parish church to assist at Mass. Some went barefoot during this procession in the spirit of penance. In the 12^th century, there are records of the Pope himself processing barefoot followed by his Cardinals. (2)

The blessed ashes were such a cherished Sacramental that the faithful often found ways to bring them to the sick and infirm. Polish priests visited the houses of the sick and infirm to administer ashes to the homebound.

The faithful of Germany pressed their ash-marked foreheads against the heads of family members who were unable to go to church so that all could share in the blessings of the ashes.

Ash Wednesday brought preparations for Holy Week in many Northern European countries. The people collected pussy willow branches and placed them in vases of water in their houses so that they would bud on time for Palm Sunday.

These beautiful branches were used in place of palms in these countries for the Palm Sunday procession. They also served as a beautiful reminder of the approach of the joyous days of Easter and an encouragement for all to persevere in their Lenten penances.

Penitential processions

Penitential processions were a common sight in cities and villages throughout all of Lent. During Fridays and Wednesdays in the Middle Ages, the priests led a procession to a stational church while chanting the Litany of Saints in a sorrowful tone. When they arrived at the church the priests prostrated and said the Prayers and Suffrages. After these solemn supplications, the Mass began. (3) In monasteries, the monks processed barefoot in the cloister. (4)

A penitencial procession in Tournai, 1349
Many confraternities in Latin countries continue to have dramatic processions throughout Lent. The Portuguese Lenten processions are particularly moving with their emphasis on relieving the Holy Souls.

In the Portuguese town of Freixo de Espada à Cinta, a somber "Procession of Seven Steps" takes place at midnight on the seven Fridays between Carnival and Easter Sunday. At the chosen hour, 12 chimes ring from the church tower signaling that all the lights in the town must be extinguished, leaving everything in complete darkness.

Three men wearing black robes begin the procession at the Matrix Church. Two men lead the procession dragging chains attached to their feet. They are followed by a man called the "Old Woman" who walks slowly and hunched over carrying a flask of wine and a cane in one hand and a candle in the other

The flask of wine & light carried by the 'Old Woman' in the Procession of Seven Steps
In a gesture of forgiveness, the "Old Woman" gives a drink of wine to those who confess their sorrow for their sins. The wine is symbolic of the Blood of Christ.

The procession stops at chosen chapels where men in black robes belonging to the confraternity of the "Order of Souls" sing solemn hymns in Portuguese and Latin asking God to pardon the souls in Purgatory. The procession ends where it began, in the Matrix Church. (5)

The Portuguese people are also reminded of their duty to pray for the dead during Lent by a solemn call made late in the night by groups of men and women who walk through the villages and cities chanting the Dies Irae or traditional dirges calling all to rise from their beds and pray. Miranda do Douro, the traditional song for this occasion, has stirring lyrics:

Awake, sinners, awake and sleep no longer;
Remember the souls of your fathers who burn in flames
Who left their property to you who remember them no more. (6)

Almsgiving & special devotions

The poor souls in Purgatory were not the only souls who benefited from the charitable practices of Lent; the poor living on this earth were also remembered by good Catholics. Kings and nobles throughout Christendom deprived themselves of their usual delicacies in order to give more alms to the poor.

A Lenten procession led
by Pope St. Gregory the Great in Rome
As Catholics diligently carried out their alms deeds, their thoughts turned towards Our Lord's sufferings and they sought ways in this Penitential Season to be united more intimately with Him. Each region developed unique ceremonies and devotions that expressed the ardent sentiments of the peoples' souls.

The Stations of the Cross, the most traditional devotion, were performed with much solemnity in Cathedrals and parish churches. In addition to the weekly Stations of the Cross, parish or missionary priests often gave retreats for parishioners during Lent delivering sermons calling for penance and reform of life. At the retreat end, the people went to Confession and received their Communion.

In Rome, the stational church at which Mass was said changed each day. The zealous faithful of Rome strewed the street of the day's station with sand and boxwood eagerly awaiting the solemn procession that led the Pope and his entourage to the church. Beggars lined the streets and the church steps to ask for alms, trusting in the people's charity during this Holy Season. (7)

On each evening of Lent in Greece, a man known as the Toumbakaris walked through the streets beating a drum to call all to the Lenten vigil (an all night vigil in the church attended by many of the faithful). (8)

The Poles sang special Lenten hymns all through Lent to show their deep compassion for Our Savior. The most solemn of these were turned into a ceremony known as Gorzkie Zale (Lenten Lamentations) held at the church on Sunday or Friday evenings. These moving hymns, cherished even in our day, reflect the natural melancholy and poetry of the Polish soul. (9)

A cock crowing, from a medieval manuscript
In the British Palace, a charming change was made in the office of watchman that reminded all within the precincts of the Palace of St. Peter's betrayal and repentance. An officer was chosen to be the "King's Cock Crower" or "Cockerel;" his duty was to announce the hour each night by imitating the crowing of a cock. This practice was sadly discontinued in the reign of Charles I, an event that is recorded here.

The presence of the Cock Crower only during the season of Lent gave the alarming crowing more significance as it announced to the impenitent sinner his need for penance:

"Had the practice continued throughout the year, the impenitent would become as habituated and as indifferent to the crow of the mimic cock as they are to that of the real one, or to the cry of the watchmen. The adaptation to the precincts of the Court seems also to have had a view, as if the Institutor (probably the Royal Confessor) had considered that the greater and more obdurate sinners resided within the purlieus of the Palace." (10)

These customs and ceremonies show how, with a Catholic spirit, men can transform even acts of penance and sorrow into beautiful realities. The prayer, almsgiving and fasting that Catholics perform during Lent were manifested exteriorly and even ceremoniously in their customs and way of being. The examples from the past give us a guide to follow and build upon in order to make daily life a reflection of the Church's liturgical spirit.

A Lenten procession in Rome
Francis X Weiser, The Easter Book (San Diego, California: The Firefly Press, 1996), p. 33.
Dom Prosper Guéranger, The Liturgical Year, vol. IV (Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire, Loreto Publications, 2013) p. 205.
See sicutincensum.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/voyages-liturgiques-rogation-processions-in-rouen-6/
Guéranger, The Liturgical Year, vol. V, p. 28.
https://www.portugalnummapa.com/procissao-dos-sete-passos/
Rodney Gallop, Portugal: A Book of Folk Ways (Cambridge: University Press, 1961), p. 183.
William S. Walsh, Curiosities of Popular Customs of Rites, Ceremonies, Observances and Miscellaneous Antiquities (Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott Company, 1898), p. 616.
George A. Megas, Greek Calendar Customs (Athens: B. and M. Rhodis, 1963), p. 76.
Sophie Hodorowicz Knab, Polish Customs, Traditions and Folklore (New York: Hippocrene Books, 1996), p. 83-84.
T. F. Thiselton-Dyer, British Popular Customs, Present and Past; Illustrating the Social and Domestic Manners of the People (London: George Bell and Sons, 1876), p. 93.

Thank you, Nadir!

I wonder what would happen if we showed up at Church barefoot? :)

Nadir · « **Reply #37 on:** March 03, 2022, 04:44:34 AM »

Quote from: Miser Peccator on March 03, 2022, 01:25:07 AM

Thank you, Nadir!

I wonder what would happen if we showed up at Church barefoot? :)

Well there is quite a tradition in praying barefoot. Think Carmelites, Poor Clares, barefoot pilgrims.

Not to forget Moses as described by St Stephen in Acts 7

30And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him, in the desert of mount Sina, an angel in a flame of fire in a bush. 31And Moses seeing it wondered at the sight. And as he drew near to view it, the voice of the Lord came unto him, saying: 32I am the God of thy fathers: the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. And Moses being terrified durst not behold. 33And the Lord said to him: Loose the shoes from thy feet: for the place wherein thou standest is holy ground.

I just discovered this while searching for barefoot info

Barefoot pilgrims hold 24-hour vigil, three-day fast at Lough Derg, Ireland | Catholics & Cultures
https://www.catholicsandcultures.org/ireland-barefoot-pilgrims-hold-24-hour-vigil-three-day-fast-lough-derg

Miser Peccator · « **Reply #38 on:** March 03, 2022, 04:49:14 AM »

Quote from: Nadir on March 03, 2022, 04:44:34 AM

Well there is quite a tradition in praying barefoot. Think Carmelites, Poor Clares, barefoot pilgrims.

Not to forget Moses as described by St Stephen in Acts 7

30And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him, in the desert of mount Sina, an angel in a flame of fire in a bush. 31And Moses seeing it wondered at the sight. And as he drew near to view it, the voice of the Lord came unto him, saying: 32I am the God of thy fathers: the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. And Moses being terrified durst not behold. 33And the Lord said to him: Loose the shoes from thy feet: for the place wherein thou standest is holy ground.

True. I'd totally do it (if I still got around) but I might get kicked out!

Ah, further humility. :)

Nadir · « **Reply #39 on:** March 03, 2022, 05:03:33 AM »

Quote from: Miser Peccator on March 03, 2022, 04:49:14 AM

True. I'd totally do it (if I still got around) but I might get kicked out!

Ah, further humility. :)

To kick you out would be a backward step indeed. btw, I added to my post above. You will have missed it.

Miser Peccator · « **Reply #40 on:** March 03, 2022, 05:27:15 AM »

Quote from: Nadir on March 03, 2022, 05:03:33 AM

To kick you out would be a backward step indeed. btw, I added to my post above. You will have missed it.

Oh my goodness! That Irish pilgrimage is profoundly inspirational. I would so love to go!

And look at all those barefoot souls receiving Holy Communion.

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that, Nadir!

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Re: Lent fast is 40 days not two days

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Re: Lent fast is 40 days not two days