Are there any Traditional chapels in or near the Diocese of Savannah?
The closest traditional mass to Savannah is Jacksonville, FL which obviously has the SSPX, they also have a diocesan TLM. The SSPX chapel there is extremely small, but they just bought a new larger property because of the influx of people, which is good.
The indult crowd is in such a dead end. The unfortunate thing is the SSPX is not learning anything from this and its endless compromises are ruining it.
I believe it's good for the indult masses to be forbidden now that the people have had a taste of tradition so they wake up and realize the Vatican is evil and start looking for alternatives.
Not to mention the "masses" are mostly invalid.
So it's a good thing that 30+ year TLM communities are ripped apart because "that's what they get" for "compromising with modernist Rome"? Come on. Just about everyone I've ever talked to who goes to ED masses takes the same position as the society, at least privately, but don't go to the society regularly because of various reasons (location, no community, little to no CCD for children, no men's/women's groups). Look, I agree with Abp Lefebvre, and I think he's a saint, I would prefer to go to the Society, but it's much further from me than the FSSP. Not everyone wants to stay home on Sunday and if they can get to the TLM they'd rather do that (I'm not going to debate "doubtful" validity). I don't necessarily agree with the reasons behind the FSSP, but I go there for mass regularly. Most SSPX chapels do not have the same community that an FSSP/ICKSP have. SSPX people tend to have this odd bunker mentality, which is sometimes reflected on this forum, by that I mean Extra SSPX/SSPX-MC/Sede Nulla Salus, even when I lived in St. Mary's it was the same way when I would go to the Academy chapel for mass. This is not a Catholic spirit to have. The highest law is the salvation of souls, not I get to be in my own trad bubble and everyone outside of it is going to Hell. Abp Lefebvre had the missionary spirit, which a lot of SSPX faithful have seemed to completely ignored, including her clergy.
I know plenty of FSSP/ICKSP priests who think Rome has lost the faith. If their order got suppressed, they'd just go independent or probably join the Society. Some priests are more traditional than others and will compromise, but that will be a minority. I don't think a lot of people on this forum have really spoken to them because you're all mainly SSPX/SSPX-MC, so that's what you know, nothing wrong with that, but you don't have the same experience that I do. I am a former seminarian at an ED community and have talked to dozens of their priests on the crisis, and they're not modernists by any stretch of the imagination.
I vehemently dislike these sweeping generalizations of Catholics who go to ED masses like they're bad Catholics, since most of you probably do not attend you don't have experience with the faithful who go there. Also, not every single local bishop is a tyrannical sodomy supporter like Cupich. If we want to restore tradition in the Church we have to at least try somewhat to engage with the local bishop and encourage them to embrace tradition, you don't do this by hiding from him and just assuming he's a modernist sodomite. Yes, he may be wrong. Yes, most of them are modernists, but not all of them are willfully evil like Cupich. This is a top-down problem like it's always been, as the good Archbishop has reiterated many times. Rome needs to convert. I don't claim to know what the solution is. God will restore the Church in due time, but to throw under the bus other Catholics who are trying to be faithful to God is completely abhorrent to me and totally lacking in charity. I don't go around telling people who to the Novus Ordo they're not Catholic, but I encourage them to embrace tradition and abandon that liturgical train-wreck.
If and when these orders are suppressed, I will go to the SSPX every Sunday, I have no qualms doing so, but I'm also amazed by the lack of charity towards other Catholics who choose for various reasons not go to to the SSPX or SSPX-MC. The highest law is the salvation of souls. Do you want to save souls? Stop talking so much smack about other communities you may disagree with.
You say it's good that Rome should suppress the ED orders, I ask you then, do you think the SSPX or some independent priest can handle the influx of 500+ or more families from surrounding parishes? I sincerely doubt it. They'd be slammed.
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