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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Lard on abstinence days
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2024, 07:32:19 AM »
My bad, I was wrong......

The law of abstinence forbids the eating of flesh meat and of broth made of meat, but does not exclude the use of eggs, milk and the products of milk (namely cheese and butter), and any seasonings of food, even those made from the fat of animals. (Canon 1250.)
The real question is gelatin which is found in many lollies.


Manufacturers produce gelatin by processing animal bones, cartilage, and skin. They may use the bodies of cows or fish, for example. The process extracts the collagen, a fibrous protein that connects muscles, bones, and skin, and turns it into gelatin, a flavorless, colorless, jelly-like substance.

Re: Lard on abstinence days
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2024, 07:54:19 AM »
The real question is gelatin which is found in many lollies.


Manufacturers produce gelatin by processing animal bones, cartilage, and skin. They may use the bodies of cows or fish, for example. The process extracts the collagen, a fibrous protein that connects muscles, bones, and skin, and turns it into gelatin, a flavorless, colorless, jelly-like substance.
“The prohibition extends only to the flesh of mammals and birds, including the fat, blood, marrow, brains, heart, liver etc. Lawful foods are fish, frogs, turtles, snails, mussels, clams, oysters, crabs etc. ... Likewise lawful are margarine, and meat extracts that have lost the taste of meat or broth, e.g. gelatine; likewise gelatine products of animal origin, but not soup cubes that contain meat ingredients.” -Jone, Moral Theology 


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Lard on abstinence days
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2024, 08:09:43 AM »
“The prohibition extends only to the flesh of mammals and birds, including the fat, blood, marrow, brains, heart, liver etc. Lawful foods are fish, frogs, turtles, snails, mussels, clams, oysters, crabs etc. ... Likewise lawful are margarine, and meat extracts that have lost the taste of meat or broth, e.g. gelatine; likewise gelatine products of animal origin, but not soup cubes that contain meat ingredients.” -Jone, Moral Theology

That's what I was saying above (the bolded), that the Church goes off common perception rather than chemical composition, so "meat extracts that have lost the taste of meat or broth" are permitted.

Offline TheRealMcCoy

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Re: Lard on abstinence days
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2024, 08:20:04 AM »
Gelatin and other meat by-products are found in many prescription medication. Oops.  The only way to avoid this is to have your prescriptions compounded and unfortunately most insurance companies won't pay for that.

What about bacon grease?  It retains a slight smoky flavor.

Re: Lard on abstinence days
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2024, 08:26:47 AM »
That's what I was saying above (the bolded), that the Church goes off common perception rather than chemical composition, so "meat extracts that have lost the taste of meat or broth" are permitted.

This is what I was getting at.  To me, lard has no meat taste whatsoever.  Bacon grease does.  I avoid bacon grease on Fridays, ditto things such as turnip greens that have some taste of meat from the seasoning in them.