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Offline Peccator Marison

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Laity obtaining relics of the first and second class
« on: May 29, 2016, 01:43:37 PM »
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  • The motive of course is pure devotion, or as pure and untainted by self-love as my poor soul can muster. Certainly it was permissible before the abominable ''Council'', there is a most edifying account by Canon Nimmo Taylor (English translation of La vie d'une Ame) of a conversion of an Anglican by a first-class relic of St Therese de Lisieux. Would one of the Traditional convents (I think there are Carmelites in Germany, Brilon Wald?? who are with the Resistance) consider such a thing?


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    Laity obtaining relics of the first and second class
    « Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 02:37:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: Peccator Marison
    The motive of course is pure devotion, or as pure and untainted by self-love as my poor soul can muster. Certainly it was permissible before the abominable ''Council'', there is a most edifying account by Canon Nimmo Taylor (English translation of La vie d'une Ame) of a conversion of an Anglican by a first-class relic of St Therese de Lisieux. Would one of the Traditional convents (I think there are Carmelites in Germany, Brilon Wald?? who are with the Resistance) consider such a thing?


    I knew a traditional Catholic lady who had a ton of first class relics she got off the internet, even a relic of the true cross...

    Now, I know that we are not supposed to buy or sell relics, but she considered it saving them from sacrilege or worse because the novus churches were getting rid of them or desecrating them...

    She even had a reliquary with a relic for a saint for every day of the year!!!

    Apparently she used all of her retirement and inheritance money to buy them...
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    Laity obtaining relics of the first and second class
    « Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 02:54:11 PM »
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  • While it is against canon law to buy or sell relics, it is not against canon law to buy and sell reliquaries.  This may sound like hair-splitting, but the Church established this law very intentionally.  Relics should be displayed properly and there is a cost of creating and maintaining reliquaries.

    By the way, it is my understanding that selling body parts is not authorized on eBay.  Relics sold on that site are given officially given away when you buy the reliquary.

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    Laity obtaining relics of the first and second class
    « Reply #3 on: May 29, 2016, 10:35:53 PM »
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  • Thread title includes second class relics, which are not body parts.

    But first (and second) class relics have their character from what they ARE, not what has been done to them, and as such, even after they are sold for money, they remain what they are regardless of how they have been blessed.

    Any blessed item loses its blessing the moment it is OFFERED for sale (before the sale and after the sail is the same thing -- blessing is lost), such as an agnus dei (made of bee's wax, blessed by the pope).

    But this rule can be sidestepped as well by calling it a "suggested donation" instead of "price."  BTW then you don't need to worry about sales tax, either.

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