Quote from: Belloc

Bill Kaufman stated that in an interview....I would fight and support her people and the place I live. I would not fly the flag at all, would not serve in the military at all and many other things if asked.

again, will repeat, the foundations were faulty for day 1.....

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Not under any circuмstances serve the US military or just not not fight unjust wars like those currently going on?

Surely there is a difference between the idealolgy of Americanism with its dangerous individualism and whorship of abstract freedom and the country itself?

so, you join the military and then, they send you somwhere unjust-what then? disappear? or refuse to fight and spend time in prison?

best not to join, as the prior 100+ yrs of histroy prove we have been unjust....then again, WWII we were lied into that, but can see fighting once started....

yes there is a difference, you are correct....being a good citizen is different than Americanism...but why put yourself in that boat where you either serve unjustly in military or go to prison?

many refused to fight for Geramny, some relenting once Russians hit German soil, some never served as they wanted teh evil nαzι regime to fall. Joseph Ratzinger refused to fight until drafted and never that I can recall saw combat.Oskar Werner was opposed to Hitler/nαzι and deserted as soon as he could....plus, his wife at that time was part-Jєω......

should Werner have served? are w much better now (yes, it is far more subtle than nαzι's-we hide behind propaganda, smiles and noble sounding talk)...

Recall, I served my country and did my time in the "war on crime", 4 1/2 yrs to be precise......if we truly were innocent and invaded, would do my part, including using my guns....even if we poked too many eyes, would defend myself,family and  neighbors...

I am supportive or re-establishing state militias...under eht old Anglo-Saxon common law, all men were obliged to defend home/hearth, but not on military adventurism..

yes, we are to be good citizens, but to refuse to be party to evil.....

Refusing to be a pary to evil.  Keeps a man hopping doesn't it?

Quote from: MyrnaM

In 1946, just after the end of World War II, Therese Neumann, a German stigmatic and mystic, was asked by an American GI if the United States would ever be destroyed or invaded in a war. Her answer was pointed:

"No, but at the end of this century America will be destroyed economically by a series of natural disasters."

Therese Neumann, German mystic, Twentieth Century

that America hater, liberal manby pamby!! she is likely trying to aid Al Qae-da and would if alive to day, vote Democrat....

Belloc, saying such a thing about an Stigmatis Therese Neumann, proves you don't know what you are babbling about.

Your seemingly unablilty to type is fraud, you claim to hate the government but work for it,  on a government computer to boot.  I notice you never post here except during normal working hours.  Are you a spy, to encourage people to burn the flag.  You and Obama seem to want the same results, the ruin of America.  

I will not pay any attention to your notes because I don't believe you are what you claim to be.  

Trinity/Myrna, since you work hand in hand as a pair and now that I have you blocked (again, harmful to ones faith to mix with cultists)

have you yet figured out who and what that omnipresent, mystical Spirit of America was yet?

or bothered to do the research noted earlier?

do to the fact that -judging for your posts, you seem to reside here most of waking day, will take that as a no.

Trinity, we were have a lovely discussion at one point, until you chose to brintg up the freemasonic spirit thing.and calling me a name is never cool, that is likely to raise my Celtic sided ire quick....a rather, oh whats that word, imbecilic thing to do.....

I truly do wish Bishop Mark a great anniversary, just hope he is not put off by that pedastal/statue thing-Trinity, was it wood, or marble? Nor the hugging of the USA flag, instead of a great hymn, maybe God Bless America, tapped version would be great by Kate Smith....check with Myrna, she likely has the copy.....behind the Toby Keith collection..

Poor fellow, will likely flee.....

If I understand you, Belloc, it's the other way around.  The majority of people in this country have gone bad---certainly the ones in power have.  They are not Americans.   Just as NO's are not Catholics.

I didnt know that you could be excommunicated from America.