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Offline Hank Igitur Orate Fratre

Re: Jury Duty - traditional Catholic
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2018, 08:21:47 PM »
Quote from: Miseremini on July 12, 2018, 08:19:53 PM
The bible doesn't belong to Caesar.
In Canada there are several ways of AFFIRMING you will tell the truth .
1. You may be asked to swear on a Bible but if you decline, they will ask if you affirm to tell the truth.
2. Muslims are asked to swear on the Koran
By swearing on a book, you are DECLARING that you believe what is in that book,
So why would a Catholic swear on a protestant bible? (Our courts actually have both).
You wouldn't expect a Muslim to swear on a bible, so no Catholic should swear on any book they don't believe in.
Right On! Excellent Points you have made!
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Offline St Ignatius

Re: Jury Duty - traditional Catholic
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2018, 08:40:06 PM »
Quote from: Hank Igitur Orate Fratre on July 12, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
Sure they can "affirm" but that's not the same thing. The courts don't ask people "Do you affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God?"
It may differ from state to state, but as far back as I can recollect, in my state the court asks, "Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God?" 

If you respond "I do," the court doesn't ask you whether you swear or affirm. I've been a plaintiff, a defendant and have served on a jury, and this is what I've experienced. 
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Jury Duty - traditional Catholic
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2018, 08:40:56 PM »
Miseremini,
Hanc asserted it was wrong to swear on the Bible.  I say it’s not. If you want to argue that one should affirm instead of swear, that’s a different argument.  I still say it’s biblical to be able to swear.  The scriptural commentary proves this.
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Offline St Ignatius

Re: Jury Duty - traditional Catholic
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2018, 08:52:22 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 12, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
Miseremini,
Hanc asserted it was wrong to swear on the Bible.  I say it’s not. If you want to argue that one should affirm instead of swear, that’s a different argument.  I still say it’s biblical to be able to swear.  The scriptural commentary proves this.
Maybe I'm reading to much into this, but if Hanc is right, wouldn't it be wrong to take vows before the Blessed Sacrament? Far more profound than swearing over the Bible... and it's a very common practice amongst the religious...
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Offline Hank Igitur Orate Fratre

Re: Jury Duty - traditional Catholic
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2018, 08:54:28 PM »
Quote from: St Ignatius on July 12, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
It may differ from state to state, but as far back as I can recollect, in my state the court asks, "Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God?"

If you respond "I do," the court doesn't ask you whether you swear or affirm. I've been a plaintiff, a defendant and have served on a jury, and this is what I've experienced.
Thank you for this useful information! Excellent points! Right On!
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