I know some here are not fans of Jordan Peterson, but I found this interesting.

 

Listen to the end especially.

Thoughts?

If a video is more than a minute or two, I rarely view it unless it is accompanied by at least a one-liner describing the specofoc attraction of the vid —AND— if the video is produced by someone I disrespect, it takes something really special to tease me to view even a short vid.

I am not a good salesperson,  but I thought the last two minutes was helpful on giving a good simple idea of putting things back in order. God's order..   Start at 29:00. Watch at your own risk.

JP is controlled opposition.  Beware. 

JP is controlled opposition.  Beware.

It's a fair warning, Pax, and it's always good to have a proper caution, but it's also true that, due to the effects of original sin, every one of us is, in some way or degree, 'controlled opposition'.

15 For that which I work, I understand not. For I do not that good which I will; but the evil which I hate, that I do.

JP is controlled opposition.  Beware.

Please define how you mean controlled opposition.  

I think that everyone who has not found the Truth and has not become a Catholic, in some way is controlled opposition, they could be controlled by the state (being paid to keep people from the Truth), or media (allowed airtime to keep people distracted from Truth), or just temptation (fame fortune keep them focused on the wrong things in life).  So when you use the term who do you think is doing the controlling?

Thank you for the warning, but I really don't trust anyone who has not converted to True Catholicism, but it doesn't mean that people outside of that don't have an interesting perspective.

I do get that for a man JP is pretty emotional and that is off putting for most men and some women.  I still think he is sincere in his search for Truth and I pray he converts at some point.

Random question:  Does cynicism  (the belief that people are only interested in themselves and are not sincere)  hinder people from seeing that maybe people are moving through a genuine conversion of thought and that we should maybe try to assume the good instead of the evil?  If we encourage good, will that help people find Truth?  If we ever got the opportunity to talk to some one, like JP, about being Catholic, which Bishop or priest would we direct them to?

Please define how you mean controlled opposition. 

I think that everyone who has not found the Truth and has not become a Catholic, in some way is controlled opposition, [...] but I really don't trust anyone who has not converted to True Catholicism, but it doesn't mean that people outside of that don't have an interesting perspective.

Those who've found the Truth and have become Catholic are still going to stumble repeatedly so long as we're still alive. We might pass the entry-level litmus test among ourselves of agreeing to abide by the same eternal rules. But we're not once-saved-always-saved prots. We're still at risk of becoming controlled, whether actively or ancillary to other vices. 

As for the perspectives of non-Catholics, sure, those can be interesting. In the same way that a clinician finds a malignancy to be interesting. A competent clinician knows to leave that pathology in its safely contained lab slide at the end of the working day.

The youtube commenters know exactly why Jordan Peterson reacted the way he did. He was stuck between a rock and hard place, because a Jєω was telling him about the evils of the Jєω. He couldn't react normally because eitherway he would appear antisemitic.

Yes flipped out is not the right term, deer caught in headlights would be more accurate

Thanks for the clarification.  I didn't dive into the comment section.

This is a process we undergo, carefully and with humility and prayer, with those few who are closest to us. Even when we encourage the good in them, we need to be silently aware that they continue to consent to remain in the grips of the other side, as it were.

This is delicate enough IRL. But to become personally vested in the spiritual meanderings of influential public figures, of whom we have no way of assessing the genuineness of their conversion, isn't for us to do. Nota bene, there's a reason that said public figures are influential.

I agree that we are most effective with the people that we know in real life.  

What do you mean by personally vested? 

Sometimes we might be inspired to do things that we don't understand, but niggles at us until we do it (like writing letters to public figures).  Once we have done the thing (i.e letters to public figures), then we are at peace and don't worry about the outcome.  We never know exactly how God will use us to do His will.