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Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2023, 07:02:06 PM »
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  • Thank you, trad123, for the Cure of Ars’ sermon on detraction.  That was excellent.
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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #16 on: November 20, 2023, 07:29:29 PM »
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  • That fits the trend, of the stampede of Marranos into  social media.

    I’ve always thought Taylor was  an infiltrator.  He admits he’s a Jєω and became that a trad social media hit overnight. Like Voris, it implies a large organization and funding are behind them.

    Mike Parrot has commented on this phenomenon recently. He’s an astute student of social media who noticed no less tha (8) social media ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs claiming to have converted to traditional Catholicism.

    https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall


    The File on Taylor Marshall

     
    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 1: The Crucified Rabbi
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 6 2020
     
    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 2: Infiltration
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 19, 2020
     
    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 3: The Sword and the Serpent
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, pending
     
    Assessing Taylor Marshall’s Infiltration: Bold Exposé or Controlled Opposition?
     
    “Abp.” Carlo Viganò and Taylor Marshall participate in Ecuмenical Prayer Rally with Protestants and Jews
     
    Canon 2316
    Whoever in any manner willingly and knowingly helps in the promulgation of heresy, or who communicates in things divine with heretics against the prescriptions of Canon 1258, is suspected of heresy.
     
    Canon 1258
    §1. It is not licit for the faithful by any manner to assist actively or to have a part in the sacred [rites] of non-Catholics.
    §2. Passive or merely material presence can be tolerated for the sake of honor or civil office, for grave reason approved by the Bishop in case of doubt, at the funerals, weddings, and similar solemnities of non-Catholics, provided danger of perversion and scandal is absent.
     
    (1917 Code of Canon Law; Ed Peters translation.)
     
     
    If the shoe fits…
     
     
     
    The Infiltration Files
     
     
    There is poison in the mother but her milk is pure? — We are at a loss for words at what Mr. Marshall says in this video where he tells listeners about his gross dream/vision he had. This is a video that has to be watched but once you do you’ll wish you could un-watch it.
     
     
    gnosticism from Dr. Taylor Marshall — Taylor teaches his listeners that 888 is the number of Jesus which is contrary to what the Church teaches. In fact, St. Irenæus wrote this is, “the highest point of blasphemy”.
     
     
    A Holy Land Pilgrimage with Taylor Marshall — Go to the Holy Land with Taylor Marshall and his immodestly dressed family with the numerology charged false apparition travel company. Have no fear though your spiritual leader with be a Novus Ordo priest who scandalously abuses Church vestments and sacramentals.
     
     
    Who are the people that Taylor Marshall thanks in his books ‘The Crucified Rabbi: Judaism and the Origins of Catholic Christianity (The Origins of Catholicism, Volume 1)’ & ‘Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within’? — Marshall thanks many people in the acknowledgments  —Msgr. William H. Stetson, Bp. Kevin Vann, Cardinal William Baum, Archbishop John Myers, Bishop Kevin Farrell, Rabbi Jacob Neusner, Mark Drogin, David Moss, Roy Schoeman, Scott Hahn, Charles A. Coulombe, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, and others — that’s a lot of Opud Judei members, тαℓмυdic Jews, and more than a few people connected to then Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
     
     
    Infiltration — Who is really doing it? — Ever wondered about Taylor Marshall’s past? It’s all here: how he joined the Novus Ordo; his connections to Opus Dei, occultist tarot card diviner, gnostics; to sex-abusers in the Novus Ordo hierarchy, his rooting of Catholicism in modern Orthodox Judaism, his staging of the Pachamama ‘Splash’, and much, much more.
     
     
    Taylor Marshall, “[Infiltration] is the greatest literary accomplishment of my life!” — How sad and embarrassing when Infiltration is a cornucopia of errors. Mistakes galore are exposed in these two podcasts.
     
     
    Sins of omission are the worst kind...for a scholar. — Mr. Taylor Marshall misconstrues what Paul VI said about Vatican II telling his audience on his podcast and his book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, that it isn’t binding.
     
     
    Taylor Marshall thanks occultist infiltrator, Charles A. Coulombe, in Acknowledgements of ‘Infiltration’ — Marshall writes a book about the church being infiltrated and not only has an occultist proof read it but also advise him on it. One has to wonder if he had his future divined via tarot cards off-camera when he had this same occultist on his podcast.
     
     
    Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!
     



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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 12:56:32 AM »
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  • https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall


    The File on Taylor Marshall


    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 1: The Crucified Rabbi
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 6 2020

    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 2: Infiltration
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 19, 2020

    Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 3: The Sword and the Serpent
    by Dr. Jesse Russell, pending

    Assessing Taylor Marshall’s Infiltration: Bold Exposé or Controlled Opposition?

    “Abp.” Carlo Viganò and Taylor Marshall participate in Ecuмenical Prayer Rally with Protestants and Jews

    Canon 2316
    Whoever in any manner willingly and knowingly helps in the promulgation of heresy, or who communicates in things divine with heretics against the prescriptions of Canon 1258, is suspected of heresy.

    Canon 1258
    §1. It is not licit for the faithful by any manner to assist actively or to have a part in the sacred [rites] of non-Catholics.
    §2. Passive or merely material presence can be tolerated for the sake of honor or civil office, for grave reason approved by the Bishop in case of doubt, at the funerals, weddings, and similar solemnities of non-Catholics, provided danger of perversion and scandal is absent.

    (1917 Code of Canon Law; Ed Peters translation.)


    If the shoe fits…



    The Infiltration Files

    There is poison in the mother but her milk is pure? — We are at a loss for words at what Mr. Marshall says in this video where he tells listeners about his gross dream/vision he had. This is a video that has to be watched but once you do you’ll wish you could un-watch it.

    gnosticism from Dr. Taylor Marshall — Taylor teaches his listeners that 888 is the number of Jesus which is contrary to what the Church teaches. In fact, St. Irenæus wrote this is, “the highest point of blasphemy”.

    A Holy Land Pilgrimage with Taylor Marshall — Go to the Holy Land with Taylor Marshall and his immodestly dressed family with the numerology charged false apparition travel company. Have no fear though your spiritual leader with be a Novus Ordo priest who scandalously abuses Church vestments and sacramentals.

    Who are the people that Taylor Marshall thanks in his books ‘The Crucified Rabbi: Judaism and the Origins of Catholic Christianity (The Origins of Catholicism, Volume 1)’ & ‘Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within’? — Marshall thanks many people in the acknowledgments  —Msgr. William H. Stetson, Bp. Kevin Vann, Cardinal William Baum, Archbishop John Myers, Bishop Kevin Farrell, Rabbi Jacob Neusner, Mark Drogin, David Moss, Roy Schoeman, Scott Hahn, Charles A. Coulombe, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, and others — that’s a lot of Opud Judei members, тαℓмυdic Jews, and more than a few people connected to then Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.

    Infiltration — Who is really doing it? — Ever wondered about Taylor Marshall’s past? It’s all here: how he joined the Novus Ordo; his connections to Opus Dei, occultist tarot card diviner, gnostics; to sex-abusers in the Novus Ordo hierarchy, his rooting of Catholicism in modern Orthodox Judaism, his staging of the Pachamama ‘Splash’, and much, much more.

    Taylor Marshall, “[Infiltration] is the greatest literary accomplishment of my life!” — How sad and embarrassing when Infiltration is a cornucopia of errors. Mistakes galore are exposed in these two podcasts.

    Sins of omission are the worst kind...for a scholar. — Mr. Taylor Marshall misconstrues what Paul VI said about Vatican II telling his audience on his podcast and his book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, that it isn’t binding.

    Taylor Marshall thanks occultist infiltrator, Charles A. Coulombe, in Acknowledgements of ‘Infiltration’ — Marshall writes a book about the church being infiltrated and not only has an occultist proof read it but also advise him on it. One has to wonder if he had his future divined via tarot cards off-camera when he had this same occultist on his podcast.

    Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!


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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 07:25:18 AM »
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  • Peterson is an obvious fraud. Why? Because the jew media pays attention to him. If you genuinely cross the Jews you get the Joe Sobran treatment, where jews in every sector of the establishment come after you and unperson you, and their "goy" slaves follow suit.

    It's a testament to the gullibility of traditional Catholics that they take anyone who isn't unpersoned by the Left and the Right seriously.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 08:55:09 AM »
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  • I hope you saved the callmejorgebergoglio blog because it's gone.
    Yes, the link doesn't work for me.


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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #20 on: November 21, 2023, 09:38:32 AM »
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  • Yeah, what I notice about the photo is the weird toy that he is holding in between his fingers...and oh, the left eye is darkened and the right eye is "ILLUMINATED."  The point is, this is not some random photo - Oh, I am just cuddling up with my wife, now let's take a photo of me holding some Lego's, or whatever in the hell it is.  The fact that his wife is not wearing a scapular is telling.  Often with these "converts" we see that they are not wearing scapulars.  With the women converts it is more obvious because they often show the necklines.  Wearing the scapular and praying the rosary are the bare basics. Perhaps this picture was taken "before her conversion," and hence no scapular.  

    More telling is Dr. Peterson's association with the Daily Wire, headed by the Ben Shapiro, the "J" Neocon.  Mr. Shapiro is all about WW3, the Jєωs need to eliminate Hamas in every corner of the globe, blah blah blah, we need to invade Iran, blah blah blah.  I heard from one Canadian comedian - I cannot recall his name - that Peterson is making north of 100,000$ per month through the Daily Wire.  This does not make him a bad person because he makes a lot of money, but it does make me question, who is bank-rolling the Daily Wire?

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #21 on: November 21, 2023, 10:27:04 AM »
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  • Peterson is an obvious fraud. Why? Because the Jєω media pays attention to him. If you genuinely cross the Jєωs you get the Joe Sobran treatment, where Jєωs in every sector of the establishment come after you and unperson you, and their "goy" slaves follow suit.

    It's a testament to the gullibility of traditional Catholics that they take anyone who isn't unpersoned by the Left and the Right seriously.
    I'm having a hard time understanding in what sense he is a fraud. Hasn't he brought thousands, if not tens of thousands to (or back to) Christianity with the work he's done?

    If he is a fraud, shouldn't we see that in his fruits? (Matthew 7:16)

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #22 on: November 21, 2023, 10:35:37 AM »
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  • Yeah, what I notice about the photo is the weird toy that he is holding in between his fingers...and oh, the left eye is darkened and the right eye is "ILLUMINATED."  The point is, this is not some random photo - Oh, I am just cuddling up with my wife, now let's take a photo of me holding some Lego's, or whatever in the hell it is.  The fact that his wife is not wearing a scapular is telling.  Often with these "converts" we see that they are not wearing scapulars.  With the women converts it is more obvious because they often show the necklines.  Wearing the scapular and praying the rosary are the bare basics. Perhaps this picture was taken "before her conversion," and hence no scapular. 

    More telling is Dr. Peterson's association with the Daily Wire, headed by the Ben Shapiro, the "J" Neocon.  Mr. Shapiro is all about WW3, the Jєωs need to eliminate Hamas in every corner of the globe, blah blah blah, we need to invade Iran, blah blah blah.  I heard from one Canadian comedian - I cannot recall his name - that Peterson is making north of 100,000$ per month through the Daily Wire.  This does not make him a bad person because he makes a lot of money, but it does make me question, who is bank-rolling the Daily Wire?
    What is your purpose in writing this?  What do you hope to accomplish?
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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #23 on: November 21, 2023, 10:42:23 AM »
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  • Have I been living under a rock?  Who is this guy? 

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #24 on: November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM »
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  • I'm having a hard time understanding in what sense he is a fraud. Hasn't he brought thousands, if not tens of thousands to (or back to) Christianity with the work he's done?

    If he is a fraud, shouldn't we see that in his fruits? (Matthew 7:16)

    His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.

    Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?

    Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #25 on: November 21, 2023, 12:09:31 PM »
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  • His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.

    Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?

    Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
    And my husband converted to Traditional Catholiscm before I did, what is your point?  Conversion happens from Charity, not from looking for all the horrible in the world. Why start these conversations when they lead nowhere?  If you are really that concerned, then say many Rosaries for him and give the "benefit of the doubt".  We need to be more careful about slinging mud, then anyone because we call ourselves True Catholics.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #26 on: November 21, 2023, 12:44:40 PM »
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  • And my husband converted to Traditional Catholiscm before I did, what is your point?  Conversion happens from Charity, not from looking for all the horrible in the world. Why start these conversations when they lead nowhere?  If you are really that concerned, then say many Rosaries for him and give the "benefit of the doubt".  We need to be more careful about slinging mud, then anyone because we call ourselves True Catholics.

    1. His wife's announced conversion does not mean we now assign value to whatever JP says. There's no relevance to you and your husband, you're not influential public figures talked about on CathInfo and elsewhere too.

    2. Conversion to falsity is not conversion. Warning others is not "slinging mud", it's charity for their wellbeing. We give the benefit of the doubt to family members, to close neighbors, to good friends, and we rejoice for them and correct them fraternally and with prudence if they repeat error, and/or we suggest they speak to a knowledgeable priest. We don't parrot The Latest Thing we read in the media because it feels nice.

    3. I already do, in general for people like him, not for him specifically.

    4. See Matthew 7:15:

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    15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    Note that what follows, Matthew 7:16, is the often-quoted "know them by their fruits". It helps to read the rest of Matthew 7 for context about how not all those who speak of God really are of God.

    Therefore, nota bene Matthew 10:16 below.
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    16 Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.

    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #27 on: November 21, 2023, 01:05:29 PM »
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  • 1. His wife's announced conversion does not mean we now assign value to whatever JP says. There's no relevance to you and your husband, you're not influential public figures talked about on CathInfo and elsewhere too.

    2. Conversion to falsity is not conversion. Warning others is not "slinging mud", it's charity for their wellbeing. We give the benefit of the doubt to family members, to close neighbors, to good friends, and we rejoice for them and correct them fraternally and with prudence if they repeat error, and/or we suggest they speak to a knowledgeable priest. We don't parrot The Latest Thing we read in the media because it feels nice.

    3. I already do, in general for people like him, not for him specifically.

    4. See Matthew 7:15:
    Note that what follows, Matthew 7:16, is the often-quoted "know them by their fruits". It helps to read the rest of Matthew 7 for context about how not all those who speak of God really are of God.

    Therefore, nota bene Matthew 10:16 below.
    Why are you lecturing me?  Am I wrong that most of the people on this site are practicing traditional Catholics?  

    1) I was giving an example that people convert in different ways.  I guess I should have use St. Monica and St Augustine.  I am sorry.

    2) Did you go through a conversion process?  Some people experience Protestantism, Novus Ordoism, the indult, until they find the Trurth.

    3)Well maybe now is the time to pray specifically for him.

    4)Know Catholics by their fruits. He is not Catholic yet.

    So many people today look for the demons in the world.  They are looking for the wolf in sheep's clothing.  This just causes more trouble.  I leave with 1 Corinthians Ch 13.  We need to focus on that.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #28 on: November 21, 2023, 01:39:43 PM »
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  • His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.
    From my understanding, he seems to want to be very, very certain that he can and will in good faith actually and genuinely *live out* his belief as opposed to making some kind of milquetoast commitment. This video can shed more light though:


    Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?
    2 Kings 5 and Naman's conversion story comes to mind, specifically the part where Naman says this:

    "Yet may the LORD forgive your servant this one thing: When my master goes into the temple of Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my arm, and I bow down in the temple of Rimmon, may the LORD forgive your servant in this matter.”

    The response Elisha gives is interesting. He says, “Go in peace.” Matthew Henry, in his commentary, has this to say: "It is not well violently to oppose the lesser mistakes which unite with men's first convictions; we cannot bring men forward any faster than the Lord prepares them to receive instruction."

    That made a lot of sense to me. Christ's message about not putting new wine into old wineskins also comes to mind.

    In any case, I can't help but think that the Holy Spirit often works slowly, "degree by degree" as the saying goes. Surely being brought to (or brought back to) Christianity, albeit perhaps an imperfect kind, is better than being left as an atheist in the devil's grip?


    Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
    I agree with this, and that's actually one of the things I like about JP. He's not saying he found "the light", per se. Rather, he's showing others some of the places he believes the light can be found in--and he keeps pointing more and more towards Christianity.

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    Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
    « Reply #29 on: November 21, 2023, 01:53:13 PM »
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  • I just find it interesting that JP’s wife’s background is completely non-existent on the internet.  I believe it’s because she’s a Russian Jєω (which is a HUGE red flag).  I can’t yet certify this but I can verify some of it:
    1.  JP’s daughter's name Mikaila (sp) is Russian. 
    2.  The daughter was/is dating Russian men. 
    3.  JP went to a rehab center in Russia when his wife was sick.  Why go to Russia?
    4.  JP has had a Russian orthodox crucifix in his videos.
    5.  Remember watching some videos long ago that mentioned his wife was Jєωιѕн.  How else did he get hooked up with Shapiro and other conservative media?

    Why does a Canadian family have such ties to Russia?  Lots of questions.