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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 11:44:38 AM

Title: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
A Taylor Marshall video popped up about Jordan Peterson's wife converting to Catholicism.  Apparently, she had a very aggressive tumor that miraculously healed after months of her praying the rosary daily and medical procedures.  Now, she's converting.  I watched a video where she was interviewed about the whole experience and she seems sincere (as much as one can tell from an edited video).

Anyway, so Taylor Marshall announces that she's converting to Catholicism this Easter.  I thought, "Oh, that's a nice story." so I decided to watch the update.  Well, in the first 2 minutes of the video, where Marshall is giving a summary of her medical issues, and her intro to the rosary, the attached photo was used in the background of the video.

This photo shows Peterson oddly holding some item, and flashing (in a subtle way) the masonic 666 sign.  This photo/pose/hand gesture is not an accident.  Why wouldn't his hand be holding his wife?  Why the strange pose?  Because it's a sign...to show masons that this "conversion" is fake.  Peterson wants to make sure "they" know he's still part of their team.

Just an FYI.  These are the times we live in.  All is not what it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7_C0VwsBFE
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 11:58:38 AM

Isn't that the OK sign?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture



MSM now stupidly equates that gesture with white supremacy because of 4chan trolling.




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Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Incredulous on November 20, 2023, 12:30:13 PM

That fits the trend, of the stampede of Marranos into  social media.

I’ve always thought Taylor was  an infiltrator.  He admits he’s a jew and became that a trad social media hit overnight. Like Voris, it implies a large organization and funding are behind them.

Mike Parrot has commented on this phenomenon recently. He’s an astute student of social media who noticed no less tha (8) social media ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs claiming to have converted to traditional Catholicism.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 20, 2023, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
This photo shows Peterson oddly holding some item, and flashing (in a subtle way) the masonic 666 sign.  This photo/pose/hand gesture is not an accident.  Why wouldn't his hand be holding his wife?  Why the strange pose?  Because it's a sign...to show masons that this "conversion" is fake.  Peterson wants to make sure "they" know he's still part of their team.
Tammy in her hand is holding a Belle/Beauty Lego figurine (which you can't see in your attached image because it's too small and cropped, so I attached the full image), and he in his hand is holding a Beast Lego figurine. I would presume it probably makes a lot more sense to think he's holding it like that because holding it in any other way from that vantage point would obscure the figurine too much. I hope this helps clear this up for you.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 02:44:00 PM
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and he in his hand is holding a Beast Lego figurine.
Actually...this makes the 666 hand gesture way more significant.  Because it's the mark of the beast.

Let's not pretend this photo was some accident. 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 20, 2023, 02:13:35 PM
Tammy in her hand is holding a Belle/Beauty Lego figurine (which you can't see in your attached image because it's too small and cropped, so I attached the full image), and he in his hand is holding a Beast Lego figurine.


Watch out, Pax! 


https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/beast-41596



Dangerous stuff



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPcnkCiFLyQ
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 20, 2023, 03:13:18 PM
I am so confused.  Why do people spend so much time paying attention to what demons want us to pay attention to?  It is simple, pay attention to the demons only in avoiding what they are doing to tempt YOU away from God, as for the rest, IGNORE IT.  You can't hear the Holy Ghost speaking to you with all this other noise.  If Jordan Peterson's wife is converting, give Glory to God, if it is a sceme, how does that really affect YOU?
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
If it’s a scheme, it’s meant to give more weight to Peterson as a “conservative leader”.  People will trust him more.   
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 03:23:35 PM


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Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 03:23:57 PM


Will you accuse Mel, over something so stupid?
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 03:33:02 PM
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Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 20, 2023, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
If it’s a scheme, it’s meant to give more weight to Peterson as a “conservative leader”.  People will trust him more. 
But that doesn't really matter if they trust him or not.  What matters is that we make sure we are ready for Heaven and God focused, so if people are inspired to look for Truth because of Peterson, then we are ready to give them that Truth.  God has His hand in everything.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
This photo


That photo, by the way, is from at least 2019.


https://www.facebook.com/drjordanpeterson/photos/a.540348442695962/2433886426675478/?type=3
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: trad123 on November 20, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
Sermons of the Cure of Ars

Eleventh Sunday After Pentecost – Detraction


https://gardenofmary.com/eleventh-sunday-after-pentecost-detractio/


“And the sting of his tongue was loosed; and he spoke right.”—Mark vii. 35.

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SYNOPSIS.—Detraction a very common sin, although one of the most vicious and one of the most harmful. It brings the saddest consequences in its train. The different ways in which we may become guilty of detraction, and other sins often caused by it. Definition of detraction. Calumny. Exaggeration of faults. Making known the faults of others without good reason. Disparaging the good actions of others. Detraction by significant silence. Pretended pity. Tale bearing. How we should act when slandered or calumniated. How slanderers must accuse themselves in confession.

It is greatly to be desired that it might be said of each of us what the Gospel says of this deaf mute, whom Christ healed, “He spoke right.” Alas, on the contrary, can we not be reproached for very frequently speaking wrong, when we speak of our neighbor? In fact, what is in that respect the behavior of the greater part of the Christians of to-day? They criticize, censure and generally denounce the actions of their neighbor: this is of all evil habits the most common, the most widespread, and perhaps the most vicious and the most harmful. It is a vice which we can never sufficiently detest; a vice, which brings in its train the saddest consequences, and spreads harm, and affliction everywhere. Ah, that God would give me the coal with which the angel cleansed the lips of the prophet Isaias, so that I might purify the tongues of all men. How much misery would be banished from the face of the earth, if we could exterminate backbiting, slander, defamation of character! If, my dear brethren, I could inspire you with great horror of these great wrongs, you might be delivered from them forevermore, and I will therefore attempt to show you:

What detraction is; in what different ways we may become guilty of it, and what other sins are very often caused by it.

I will not attempt to show you the enormity and heinousness of this vice of detraction, which causes so much misery, and which is the origin of so many other sins, of so much hatred, even of murders, and lifelong enmities. This vice spares neither good nor bad; it is enough for me to tell you, that this vice is one of those that are responsible for most of the souls that go to hell. It is necessary to know the many various ways in which we may become guilty of this sin, so that knowing this evil, we may the more easily avoid it, and avoid the harm which it causes in the lives of others. If you ask: What is detraction, I have to answer: It consists of making known a defect or fault of our neighbor unnecessarily, and in such way as to cause him injury, to his good name or otherwise. This may happen in various ways.

When we impute something bad to our neighbor which he has not committed a defect which he does not possess, we commit calumny; a most detestable act, which unfortunately, and in spite of its great wrong, is very common. This is not detraction, it is more sinful, but from detraction to calumny is only a small step. If we are honest, we must admit that we invariably add something to, or magnify the bad which we know of our neighbor. A slanderous story that has passed from tongue to tongue, no longer resembles that which was said at first, it has been so much engrossed and aggravated; from which fact we must conclude that a detractor is almost invariably also a calumniator, and a calumniator is a very wicked person.

We exaggerate as a rule the bad that our neighbor does. When you notice any one commit a fault what do you do? Instead of covering it with the mantle of charity, or at least trying to excuse it, you like to exaggerate it.

St. Francis of Sales says: “Do not say this or that one is a drunkard, and a thief, because he once stole or was intoxicated; Noah and Loth were intoxicated once, and yet neither the one nor the other were drunkards.” St. Peter was not a blasphemer because he blasphemed once. A person is not vicious, because he once fell into sin, even not if this happened several times; therefore, we run danger of being guilty of detraction if we accuse them. When Simon saw Magdalen weeping at our Saviour’s feet, he said: “This man, if he were a prophet would know surely that this woman at his feet is a sinner.” He was greatly mistaken: Magdalen was no longer a sinner, but a holy penitent, because all her sins had been forgiven her. Consider the proud Pharisee, who in the Temple praised his own good works, and thanked God that he was not like others, adulterers, extortioners, and thieves, or like the publican. He denounced the publican as a sinner, when at that very moment this publican was justified. “My dear children,” exclaimed St. Francis de Sales, “since God’s mercy is so great that one moment suffices for Him to pardon the greatest crimes, how dare we say, that a man who yesterday was a great sinner, is the same to-day!” We invariably deceive ourselves if we think bad of our neighbor, no matter what reasons we have for our opinion. We are also guilty of detraction when without sufficient reason we disclose secret faults or bad actions of our neighbor. There are persons who think that if they know anything bad about their neighbor, they may tell it to others, and make it a subject of conversation. This is a grave error: Our faith enjoins upon us nothing so much as love of our neighbor. Reason itself tells us that we should not do to others, what we do not wish done to ourselves. Let us look at this subject more closely: Would we like it if someone saw us commit a fault, and then went and made it known to everybody? Certainly not; on the contrary, were he charitable enough to hide it, we should feel very grateful to him. Consider how annoyed you feel when anyone says anything derogatory of you or your family. Justice and charity are opposed to this carrying of tales. As long as our neighbor’s faults are concealed he preserves his good name; but as soon as you make them known his reputation is injured and you thereby cause him a greater injustice than if you robbed him of his belongings, for the Holy Ghost tells us that a good name is above riches.

We commit the sin of detraction when we put a disparaging interpretation on our neighbor’s good actions. Such persons impute motives to you, which you never bad; they slight all your doings and sayings: If you are pious and perform your religious duties faithfully, you are in their eyes, a hypocrite. They say sneeringly, that you are a saint in church, but a devil at home. If you do good works, they claim that you do them from pride, to show yourself. If you avoid association with evil doers, they call you an idiot. If you look carefully after your affairs they say you are miserly. Yes, dear brethren, we may say with truth, that the tongue of the detractor is like a worm which gnaws all good fruits: that is to say, the best actions of man, and seeks to make them look bad.

We may commit the sin of detraction even by significant silence; when some one is praised in your presence, you remain silent; but the expression of your face, your scornful, significant smile causes suspicions of the one who is being praised. Others clothe their evil work in the dress of pretended pity. “You know So-and-so,” they will say. “Have you heard what happened to him? Ah, it is too bad that he was so careless! You would hardly have believed that he would do such things!” St. Francis says that such detraction is like a poisoned arrow that is dipped into oil, so that it may penetrate deeper. But the most atrocious detraction and the most lamentable in its consequences is that, when we carry back to others what has been said of them. Such informants produce the most frightful evils, arouse hatred, even bƖσσdshɛd.

To understand how culpable such persons are, the Holy Ghost says: “God hates six things; but the seventh he abhors, and that is ‘tale-bearing.'”

Here we have briefly the various ways in which we can commit the sin of detraction. Examine your heart and see whether you have not been guilty in one of these ways.
We must not be anxious to believe all the bad that we hear about others; even if appearances are against the accused, we should not readily believe. Remember that St. Francis de Sales was once accused of having killed a man, so that he might live with his wife. The Saint left it all in God’s hands, and had no fear for his good name. To those who advised him to defend himself he made answer, that he would leave the task of making reparation to the care of the one of whose permission his good name had been smirched. That calumny is one of the greatest afflictions for man is proved by the fact that God permitted the Saints, to whom He sent the greatest trials, to be calumniated. If detraction or calumny is our share, the best thing that we can do, is to keep silent, beseech God that we may bear it for love of Him, and pray for our calumniators. Console yourselves with the thought that God permits it to befall those whom He regards with a merciful eye. When anyone is calumniated God has decided to lead that one to a high state of perfection. We ought to commiserate those who slander us; but for ourselves personally we should rejoice; for these are trials which will count for us in heaven.
Let us return to our subject, because our chief object is to learn how the detractor injures himself. Detraction may easily become a mortal sin, and certainly is a mortal sin in important matters, where grave results are the consequence. St. Paul numbers it amongst those sins which close heaven against us. The Holy Ghost says that the detractor is cursed by God, that he is an abomination before God and men. Detraction is great or small according to circuмstances, or to the dignity of the person spoken of. It is a greater sin to make known the defects and faults of our superiors, our parents, of husband or wife, brothers, sisters, or relations, than those of strangers, because we should have more charity for our friends than for others. To speak badly of persons consecrated to God, of the servants of the church, is a much greater sin on account of the lamentable results to religion and of the detriment to their position. The Holy Ghost speaking by the mouth of the prophet says: “To abuse and revile His (the Holy Ghost’s) servants is to touch the apple of His eye”; that means, nothing can offend Him more. This sin consequently is a crime, the enormity of which surpasses all comprehension. Christ also said: “Whosoever despises you, despises me.”

After all this, dear brethren, you will readily admit, that for a good confession it is not sufficient to say that you have slandered your neighbor; you must also say whether it happened from levity, hatred or revenge, or whether we sought to injure our neighbor’s reputation. We must mention of what persons we spoke; whether it was about superiors, parents, or persons consecrated to God, and whether we spoke this to one or many persons: all this is required for a good confession.

Some people when asked whether their detraction injured their neighbor, answer no. You are in error, my friends! Every time that you reveal an unknown fault of your neighbor’s, you injure him; for in every case you lessen the respect which those who are listening to you, had far him. Hence we may conclude that we can hardly ever say anything bad of our neighbor without in one way or another injuring his good name. But you will say, when it is already known, then there is no more harm. My friends, if the whole body of some unfortunate person was covered with leprosy, except a small part, and if you said: Because nearly the whole body is covered with leprosy this place ought to be covered too, would this be charitable and just? You must, on the contrary, have com-passion upon the unfortunate person, conceal and excuse his faults as much as possible. Consider, whether it would be right, if, seeing a sick man on the brink of an abyss, we would take advantage of his feebleness and of his perilous position to push him down? Now we do the same thing when we dwelt upon the know defects of others. But you will say, may we not tell them to a friend under the seal of secrecy? There again you are in error, for why should you expect others to keep a secret when you cannot yourself do so? It is like saying to a person: “My friend, I want to tell you something, but be wiser and more reliable than I ; do not break the secret which I am about to break.” The best thing is to be silent in matters that do not concern us, no matter what is said or done do not meddle with anything, except to work for your own salvation. The Holy Ghost says: “Those who speak too much, do not always speak well.”

I hope to God, that my words have made a lasting impression upon your minds and hearts, and that you have realized the great wrong of evil speaking. I may safely say that a majority of us have suffered one way or the other by detraction, slander or calumny, and the bitter woe and heartache caused by these sins are perhaps not unknown to you. Be careful then, not to do to others that which you do not wish done to you. Sometimes, when desiring to pay a high tribute to the good qualities of a friend, we say: He never speaks ill of others. This proves that we are conscious of the wickedness of evil speaking. Let us then try and earn this high tribute for ourselves, and let us show to our neighbor the mercy which on our last day we shall expect of God. Amen.


Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 20, 2023, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
If it’s a scheme, it’s meant to give more weight to Peterson as a “conservative leader”.  People will trust him more. 
To be clear, what other things/pieces of evidence surrounding Jordan (not including this picture) lead you to believe that the most reasonable or likely explanation here is that he’s surreptitiously flashing the sign of the beast?   
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: magdalena on November 20, 2023, 07:02:06 PM
Thank you, trad123, for the Cure of Ars’ sermon on detraction.  That was excellent.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Mark 79 on November 20, 2023, 07:29:29 PM
Quote from: Incredulous on November 20, 2023, 12:30:13 PM
That fits the trend, of the stampede of Marranos into  social media.

I’ve always thought Taylor was  an infiltrator.  He admits he’s a Jєω and became that a trad social media hit overnight. Like Voris, it implies a large organization and funding are behind them.

Mike Parrot has commented on this phenomenon recently. He’s an astute student of social media who noticed no less tha (8) social media ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs claiming to have converted to traditional Catholicism.

https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall


The File on Taylor Marshall (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/search/label/Taylor%20Marshall (https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/search/label/Taylor Marshall)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 1: The Crucified Rabbi
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 6 2020
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-1-the-crucified-rabbi/ (https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-1-the-crucified-rabbi/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 2: Infiltration
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 19, 2020
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-ii-infiltration/ (https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-ii-infiltration/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 3: The Sword and the Serpent
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, pending
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Assessing Taylor Marshall’s Infiltration: Bold Exposé or Controlled Opposition?
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://novusordowatch.org/2020/08/assessing-taylor-marshalls-infiltration/ (https://novusordowatch.org/2020/08/assessing-taylor-marshalls-infiltration/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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“Abp.” Carlo Viganò and Taylor Marshall participate in Ecuмenical Prayer Rally with Protestants and Jews
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Canon 2316
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Whoever in any manner willingly and knowingly helps in the promulgation of heresy, or who communicates in things divine with heretics against the prescriptions of Canon 1258, is suspected of heresy.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Canon 1258
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
§1. It is not licit for the faithful by any manner to assist actively or to have a part in the sacred [rites] of non-Catholics.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
§2. Passive or merely material presence can be tolerated for the sake of honor or civil office, for grave reason approved by the Bishop in case of doubt, at the funerals, weddings, and similar solemnities of non-Catholics, provided danger of perversion and scandal is absent.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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(1917 Code of Canon Law; Ed Peters translation.)
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https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/ (https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
If the shoe fits…
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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(https://judaism.is/images/taylor%20marshall%20v%20rorate.jpg?crc=266198746)
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(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
The Infiltration Files
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2022/07/infiltration-files.html (https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2022/07/infiltration-files.html)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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There is poison in the mother but her milk is pure? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2018/03/there-is-poison-in-mother-but-her-milk.html) — We are at a loss for words at what Mr. Marshall says in this video where he tells listeners about his gross dream/vision he had. This is a video that has to be watched but once you do you’ll wish you could un-watch it.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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gnosticism from Dr. Taylor Marshall (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2019/01/gnosticism-from-dr-taylor-marshall.html) — Taylor teaches his listeners that 888 is the number of Jesus which is contrary to what the Church teaches. In fact, St. Irenæus wrote this is, “the highest point of blasphemy”.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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A Holy Land Pilgrimage with Taylor Marshall (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2019/06/a-holy-land-pilgrimage-with-taylor.html) — Go to the Holy Land with Taylor Marshall and his immodestly dressed family with the numerology charged false apparition travel company. Have no fear though your spiritual leader with be a Novus Ordo priest who scandalously abuses Church vestments and sacramentals.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Who are the people that Taylor Marshall thanks in his books ‘The Crucified Rabbi: Judaism and the Origins of Catholic Christianity (The Origins of Catholicism, Volume 1)’ & ‘Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within’? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/01/who-are-people-that-taylor-marshall.html) — Marshall thanks many people in the acknowledgments  —Msgr. William H. Stetson, Bp. Kevin Vann, Cardinal William Baum, Archbishop John Myers, Bishop Kevin Farrell, Rabbi Jacob Neusner, Mark Drogin, David Moss, Roy Schoeman, Scott Hahn, Charles A. Coulombe, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, and others — that’s a lot of Opud Judei members, тαℓмυdic Jews, and more than a few people connected to then Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Infiltration — Who is really doing it? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/04/infiltration-who-is-really-doing-it.html) — Ever wondered about Taylor Marshall’s past? It’s all here: how he joined the Novus Ordo; his connections to Opus Dei, occultist tarot card diviner, gnostics; to sex-abusers in the Novus Ordo hierarchy, his rooting of Catholicism in modern Orthodox Judaism, his staging of the Pachamama ‘Splash’, and much, much more.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Taylor Marshall, “[Infiltration] is the greatest literary accomplishment of my life!” (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/07/taylor-marshall-infiltration-is.html) — How sad and embarrassing when Infiltration is a cornucopia of errors. Mistakes galore are exposed in these two podcasts.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Sins of omission are the worst kind...for a scholar. (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/07/sins-of-omission-are-worst-kind.html) — Mr. Taylor Marshall misconstrues what Paul VI said about Vatican II telling his audience on his podcast and his book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, that it isn’t binding.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Taylor Marshall thanks occultist infiltrator, Charles A. Coulombe, in Acknowledgements of ‘Infiltration’ (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2021/04/taylor-marshall-thanks-occultist.html) — Marshall writes a book about the church being infiltrated and not only has an occultist proof read it but also advise him on it. One has to wonder if he had his future divined via tarot cards off-camera when he had this same occultist on his podcast.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
 
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Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2021/08/another-epic-fail-in-taylor-marshalls.html) — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!
 
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Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on November 21, 2023, 12:56:32 AM
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 20, 2023, 07:29:29 PM
https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall


The File on Taylor Marshall (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/search/label/Taylor%20Marshall (https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/search/label/Taylor Marshall)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 1: The Crucified Rabbi
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 6 2020
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-1-the-crucified-rabbi/ (https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-1-the-crucified-rabbi/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 2: Infiltration
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, November 19, 2020
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-ii-infiltration/ (https://akacatholic.com/who-is-taylor-marshall-part-ii-infiltration/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Who is Taylor Marshall? Part 3: The Sword and the Serpent
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
by Dr. Jesse Russell, pending
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Assessing Taylor Marshall’s Infiltration: Bold Exposé or Controlled Opposition?
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
https://novusordowatch.org/2020/08/assessing-taylor-marshalls-infiltration/ (https://novusordowatch.org/2020/08/assessing-taylor-marshalls-infiltration/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
“Abp.” Carlo Viganò and Taylor Marshall participate in Ecuмenical Prayer Rally with Protestants and Jews
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Canon 2316
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Whoever in any manner willingly and knowingly helps in the promulgation of heresy, or who communicates in things divine with heretics against the prescriptions of Canon 1258, is suspected of heresy.
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Canon 1258
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§1. It is not licit for the faithful by any manner to assist actively or to have a part in the sacred [rites] of non-Catholics.
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§2. Passive or merely material presence can be tolerated for the sake of honor or civil office, for grave reason approved by the Bishop in case of doubt, at the funerals, weddings, and similar solemnities of non-Catholics, provided danger of perversion and scandal is absent.
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(1917 Code of Canon Law; Ed Peters translation.)
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https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/ (https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
If the shoe fits…
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(https://judaism.is/images/taylor%20marshall%20v%20rorate.jpg?crc=266198746)

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The Infiltration Files
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https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2022/07/infiltration-files.html (https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2022/07/infiltration-files.html)
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
There is poison in the mother but her milk is pure? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2018/03/there-is-poison-in-mother-but-her-milk.html) — We are at a loss for words at what Mr. Marshall says in this video where he tells listeners about his gross dream/vision he had. This is a video that has to be watched but once you do you’ll wish you could un-watch it.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
gnosticism from Dr. Taylor Marshall (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2019/01/gnosticism-from-dr-taylor-marshall.html) — Taylor teaches his listeners that 888 is the number of Jesus which is contrary to what the Church teaches. In fact, St. Irenæus wrote this is, “the highest point of blasphemy”.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
A Holy Land Pilgrimage with Taylor Marshall (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2019/06/a-holy-land-pilgrimage-with-taylor.html) — Go to the Holy Land with Taylor Marshall and his immodestly dressed family with the numerology charged false apparition travel company. Have no fear though your spiritual leader with be a Novus Ordo priest who scandalously abuses Church vestments and sacramentals.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Who are the people that Taylor Marshall thanks in his books ‘The Crucified Rabbi: Judaism and the Origins of Catholic Christianity (The Origins of Catholicism, Volume 1)’ & ‘Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within’? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/01/who-are-people-that-taylor-marshall.html) — Marshall thanks many people in the acknowledgments  —Msgr. William H. Stetson, Bp. Kevin Vann, Cardinal William Baum, Archbishop John Myers, Bishop Kevin Farrell, Rabbi Jacob Neusner, Mark Drogin, David Moss, Roy Schoeman, Scott Hahn, Charles A. Coulombe, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, and others — that’s a lot of Opud Judei members, тαℓмυdic Jews, and more than a few people connected to then Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Infiltration — Who is really doing it? (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/04/infiltration-who-is-really-doing-it.html) — Ever wondered about Taylor Marshall’s past? It’s all here: how he joined the Novus Ordo; his connections to Opus Dei, occultist tarot card diviner, gnostics; to sex-abusers in the Novus Ordo hierarchy, his rooting of Catholicism in modern Orthodox Judaism, his staging of the Pachamama ‘Splash’, and much, much more.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Taylor Marshall, “[Infiltration] is the greatest literary accomplishment of my life!” (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/07/taylor-marshall-infiltration-is.html) — How sad and embarrassing when Infiltration is a cornucopia of errors. Mistakes galore are exposed in these two podcasts.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Sins of omission are the worst kind...for a scholar. (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/07/sins-of-omission-are-worst-kind.html) — Mr. Taylor Marshall misconstrues what Paul VI said about Vatican II telling his audience on his podcast and his book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, that it isn’t binding.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Taylor Marshall thanks occultist infiltrator, Charles A. Coulombe, in Acknowledgements of ‘Infiltration’ (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2021/04/taylor-marshall-thanks-occultist.html) — Marshall writes a book about the church being infiltrated and not only has an occultist proof read it but also advise him on it. One has to wonder if he had his future divined via tarot cards off-camera when he had this same occultist on his podcast.
(https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)  (https://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#marshall)
Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2021/08/another-epic-fail-in-taylor-marshalls.html) — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!

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I hope you saved the callmejorgebergoglio blog because it's gone.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: rum on November 21, 2023, 07:25:18 AM
Peterson is an obvious fraud. Why? Because the jew media pays attention to him. If you genuinely cross the Jews you get the Joe Sobran treatment, where jews in every sector of the establishment come after you and unperson you, and their "goy" slaves follow suit.

It's a testament to the gullibility of traditional Catholics that they take anyone who isn't unpersoned by the Left and the Right seriously.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: FarmerWife on November 21, 2023, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on November 21, 2023, 12:56:32 AM
I hope you saved the callmejorgebergoglio blog because it's gone.
Yes, the link doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: OABrownson1876 on November 21, 2023, 09:38:32 AM
Yeah, what I notice about the photo is the weird toy that he is holding in between his fingers...and oh, the left eye is darkened and the right eye is "ILLUMINATED."  The point is, this is not some random photo - Oh, I am just cuddling up with my wife, now let's take a photo of me holding some Lego's, or whatever in the hell it is.  The fact that his wife is not wearing a scapular is telling.  Often with these "converts" we see that they are not wearing scapulars.  With the women converts it is more obvious because they often show the necklines.  Wearing the scapular and praying the rosary are the bare basics. Perhaps this picture was taken "before her conversion," and hence no scapular.  

More telling is Dr. Peterson's association with the Daily Wire, headed by the Ben Shapiro, the "J" Neocon.  Mr. Shapiro is all about WW3, the Jєωs need to eliminate Hamas in every corner of the globe, blah blah blah, we need to invade Iran, blah blah blah.  I heard from one Canadian comedian - I cannot recall his name - that Peterson is making north of 100,000$ per month through the Daily Wire.  This does not make him a bad person because he makes a lot of money, but it does make me question, who is bank-rolling the Daily Wire?

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
Quote from: rum on November 21, 2023, 07:25:18 AM
Peterson is an obvious fraud. Why? Because the Jєω media pays attention to him. If you genuinely cross the Jєωs you get the Joe Sobran treatment, where Jєωs in every sector of the establishment come after you and unperson you, and their "goy" slaves follow suit.

It's a testament to the gullibility of traditional Catholics that they take anyone who isn't unpersoned by the Left and the Right seriously.
I'm having a hard time understanding in what sense he is a fraud. Hasn't he brought thousands, if not tens of thousands to (or back to) Christianity with the work he's done?

If he is a fraud, shouldn't we see that in his fruits? (Matthew 7:16)
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 21, 2023, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: OABrownson1876 on November 21, 2023, 09:38:32 AM
Yeah, what I notice about the photo is the weird toy that he is holding in between his fingers...and oh, the left eye is darkened and the right eye is "ILLUMINATED."  The point is, this is not some random photo - Oh, I am just cuddling up with my wife, now let's take a photo of me holding some Lego's, or whatever in the hell it is.  The fact that his wife is not wearing a scapular is telling.  Often with these "converts" we see that they are not wearing scapulars.  With the women converts it is more obvious because they often show the necklines.  Wearing the scapular and praying the rosary are the bare basics. Perhaps this picture was taken "before her conversion," and hence no scapular. 

More telling is Dr. Peterson's association with the Daily Wire, headed by the Ben Shapiro, the "J" Neocon.  Mr. Shapiro is all about WW3, the Jєωs need to eliminate Hamas in every corner of the globe, blah blah blah, we need to invade Iran, blah blah blah.  I heard from one Canadian comedian - I cannot recall his name - that Peterson is making north of 100,000$ per month through the Daily Wire.  This does not make him a bad person because he makes a lot of money, but it does make me question, who is bank-rolling the Daily Wire?
What is your purpose in writing this?  What do you hope to accomplish?
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: 2Vermont on November 21, 2023, 10:42:23 AM
Have I been living under a rock?  Who is this guy? 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
I'm having a hard time understanding in what sense he is a fraud. Hasn't he brought thousands, if not tens of thousands to (or back to) Christianity with the work he's done?

If he is a fraud, shouldn't we see that in his fruits? (Matthew 7:16)

His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.

Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?

Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 21, 2023, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.

Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?

Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
And my husband converted to Traditional Catholiscm before I did, what is your point?  Conversion happens from Charity, not from looking for all the horrible in the world. Why start these conversations when they lead nowhere?  If you are really that concerned, then say many Rosaries for him and give the "benefit of the doubt".  We need to be more careful about slinging mud, then anyone because we call ourselves True Catholics.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 12:44:40 PM
Quote from: Gray2023 on November 21, 2023, 12:09:31 PM
And my husband converted to Traditional Catholiscm before I did, what is your point?  Conversion happens from Charity, not from looking for all the horrible in the world. Why start these conversations when they lead nowhere?  If you are really that concerned, then say many Rosaries for him and give the "benefit of the doubt".  We need to be more careful about slinging mud, then anyone because we call ourselves True Catholics.

1. His wife's announced conversion does not mean we now assign value to whatever JP says. There's no relevance to you and your husband, you're not influential public figures talked about on CathInfo and elsewhere too.

2. Conversion to falsity is not conversion. Warning others is not "slinging mud", it's charity for their wellbeing. We give the benefit of the doubt to family members, to close neighbors, to good friends, and we rejoice for them and correct them fraternally and with prudence if they repeat error, and/or we suggest they speak to a knowledgeable priest. We don't parrot The Latest Thing we read in the media because it feels nice.

3. I already do, in general for people like him, not for him specifically.

4. See Matthew 7:15:
 (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=7&l=15-#x)
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15  (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=7&l=15-#x)Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Note that what follows, Matthew 7:16, is the often-quoted "know them by their fruits". It helps to read the rest of Matthew 7 (https://drbo.org/chapter/47007.htm) for context about how not all those who speak of God really are of God.

Therefore, nota bene Matthew 10:16 below.  (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=10&l=16-#x)
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16  (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=10&l=16-#x)Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 21, 2023, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 12:44:40 PM
1. His wife's announced conversion does not mean we now assign value to whatever JP says. There's no relevance to you and your husband, you're not influential public figures talked about on CathInfo and elsewhere too.

2. Conversion to falsity is not conversion. Warning others is not "slinging mud", it's charity for their wellbeing. We give the benefit of the doubt to family members, to close neighbors, to good friends, and we rejoice for them and correct them fraternally and with prudence if they repeat error, and/or we suggest they speak to a knowledgeable priest. We don't parrot The Latest Thing we read in the media because it feels nice.

3. I already do, in general for people like him, not for him specifically.

4. See Matthew 7:15:
 (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=7&l=15-#x)Note that what follows, Matthew 7:16, is the often-quoted "know them by their fruits". It helps to read the rest of Matthew 7 (https://drbo.org/chapter/47007.htm) for context about how not all those who speak of God really are of God.

Therefore, nota bene Matthew 10:16 below.  (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=10&l=16-#x)
Why are you lecturing me?  Am I wrong that most of the people on this site are practicing traditional Catholics?  

1) I was giving an example that people convert in different ways.  I guess I should have use St. Monica and St Augustine.  I am sorry.

2) Did you go through a conversion process?  Some people experience Protestantism, Novus Ordoism, the indult, until they find the Trurth.

3)Well maybe now is the time to pray specifically for him.

4)Know Catholics by their fruits. He is not Catholic yet.

So many people today look for the demons in the world.  They are looking for the wolf in sheep's clothing.  This just causes more trouble.  I leave with 1 Corinthians Ch 13.  We need to focus on that.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
His wife claims to have converted to Catholicism, but JP has not, though he continues to dance around it for some reason.
From my understanding, he seems to want to be very, very certain that he can and will in good faith actually and genuinely *live out* his belief as opposed to making some kind of milquetoast commitment. This video can shed more light though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKlWLpbycuQ


Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
Of those thousands, tens of thousands, what sort of "Christianity" have they been "brought back" to? Protestantism, false Catholicism that grooves to the "Divine Mercy" chaplets, that still does yoga and reads the daily horoscope, that doesn't understand the heresy in the lyrics of Mary Did You Know? and if you did explain it to them, would still insist it's a nice song to teach to little kids for the "holidays"?
2 Kings 5 and Naman's conversion story comes to mind, specifically the part where Naman says this:

"Yet may the LORD forgive your servant this one thing: When my master goes into the temple of Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my arm, and I bow down in the temple of Rimmon, may the LORD forgive your servant in this matter.”

The response Elisha gives is interesting. He says, “Go in peace.” Matthew Henry, in his commentary, has this to say: "It is not well violently to oppose the lesser mistakes which unite with men's first convictions; we cannot bring men forward any faster than the Lord prepares them to receive instruction."

That made a lot of sense to me. Christ's message about not putting new wine into old wineskins also comes to mind.

In any case, I can't help but think that the Holy Spirit often works slowly, "degree by degree" as the saying goes. Surely being brought to (or brought back to) Christianity, albeit perhaps an imperfect kind, is better than being left as an atheist in the devil's grip?


Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
Whenever a public figure claims to have seen the light, we should think twice before falling for it, and especially think twice before allowing or encouraging others to fall for it.
I agree with this, and that's actually one of the things I like about JP. He's not saying he found "the light", per se. Rather, he's showing others some of the places he believes the light can be found in--and he keeps pointing more and more towards Christianity.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 21, 2023, 01:53:13 PM
I just find it interesting that JP’s wife’s background is completely non-existent on the internet.  I believe it’s because she’s a Russian Jєω (which is a HUGE red flag).  I can’t yet certify this but I can verify some of it:
1.  JP’s daughter's name Mikaila (sp) is Russian. 
2.  The daughter was/is dating Russian men. 
3.  JP went to a rehab center in Russia when his wife was sick.  Why go to Russia?
4.  JP has had a Russian orthodox crucifix in his videos.
5.  Remember watching some videos long ago that mentioned his wife was Jєωιѕн.  How else did he get hooked up with Shapiro and other conservative media?

Why does a Canadian family have such ties to Russia?  Lots of questions.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Mark 79 on November 21, 2023, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on November 21, 2023, 12:56:32 AM
I hope you saved the callmejorgebergoglio blog because it's gone.
I archived almost everything on archive.org and archive.is

Just go to the archive sites and search for the original URL.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 21, 2023, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 01:39:43 PM
From my understanding, he seems to want to be very, very certain that he can and will in good faith actually and genuinely *live out* his belief as opposed to making some kind of milquetoast commitment. This video can shed more light though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKlWLpbycuQ

2 Kings 5 and Naman's conversion story comes to mind, specifically the part where Naman says this:

"Yet may the LORD forgive your servant this one thing: When my master goes into the temple of Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my arm, and I bow down in the temple of Rimmon, may the LORD forgive your servant in this matter.”

The response Elisha gives is interesting. He says, “Go in peace.” Matthew Henry, in his commentary, has this to say: "It is not well violently to oppose the lesser mistakes which unite with men's first convictions; we cannot bring men forward any faster than the Lord prepares them to receive instruction."

That made a lot of sense to me. Christ's message about not putting new wine into old wineskins also comes to mind.

In any case, I can't help but think that the Holy Spirit often works slowly, "degree by degree" as the saying goes. Surely being brought to (or brought back to) Christianity, albeit perhaps an imperfect kind, is better than being left as an atheist in the devil's grip?

I agree with this, and that's actually one of the things I like about JP. He's not saying he found "the light", per se. Rather, he's showing others some of the places he believes the light can be found in--and he keeps pointing more and more towards Christianity.
👍(I don't have the ability to click the up or down thumb yet)
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 01:39:43 PM
In any case, I can't help but think that the Holy Spirit often works slowly, "degree by degree" as the saying goes. Surely being brought to (or brought back to) Christianity, albeit perhaps an imperfect kind, is better than being left as an atheist in the devil's grip?

I agree with this, and that's actually one of the things I like about JP. He's not saying he found "the light", per se. Rather, he's showing others some of the places he believes the light can be found in--and he keeps pointing more and more towards Christianity.

I 100% agree with the first sentence especially in the case of a private individual. Yet what I have been trying to point out in several posts is that we are not speaking here of a private individual. In fact, "some of the places he believes the light can be found in" might be very dangerous places spiritually. 

I fully recognize that everyone's path is different, and if someone takes a more tortuous or foolish route toward the Truth, that is part of Divine Providence. If Mrs. JP is on this path, wonderful. If JP gets there on his own schedule, wonderful. (Hence your very relevant quote re Elisha.) But until they do, that's their private business with their families, close friends, mentors, and most importantly, their confessors.

Yet again, what I've been trying to point out in several posts is that we should be wary of ignorant feel-good cheerleading and condoning what may turn out to be false shepherds, especially if any impressionable ones in our private lives look to us for guidance. Even if these public figures are indeed sincere in their own hearts and souls, there still remains for them the temptation of pride, where the roar of the crowd will stall them in what the faithless and faceless mob wants to hear.

So much of what we see in the media is a curated reality show not intended for our spiritual good. If TV and the internet had existed back in the days of Saint Augustine and he had chronicled his own conversion process in real time, how many in the crowd would have wowed at his edgy Manichean phase and disappointed when he left that falsity behind for good?
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Soubirous on November 21, 2023, 02:35:45 PM
Yet again, what I've been trying to point out in several posts is that we should be wary of ignorant feel-good cheerleading and condoning what may turn out to be false shepherds, especially if any impressionable ones in our private lives look to us for guidance. Even if these public figures are indeed sincere in their own hearts and souls, there still remains for them the temptation of pride, where the roar of the crowd will stall them in what the faithless and faceless mob wants to hear.
I agree and think we have to be careful in who we look to as leaders or who we let influence us. Thus, "You will know them by their fruits," is wisdom to always keep in mind I think when trying to make those decisions.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Ladislaus on November 21, 2023, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 20, 2023, 02:44:00 PM
Actually...this makes the 666 hand gesture way more significant.  Because it's the mark of the beast.

Let's not pretend this photo was some accident.

I just opened the photo for the first time now, and I'd have to concur regarding the 666 gesture.  That is not a natural way to hold something, as it takes deliberate exertion to hold the other 3 fingers up that way, and the fact that he's holding the "Beast" seems to confirm it.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on November 21, 2023, 03:51:35 PM
Should Catholics have followed St Augustine BEFORE he converted just because sometimes he said something Catholic?
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Ladislaus on November 21, 2023, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 20, 2023, 07:29:29 PM
Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ (http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2021/08/another-epic-fail-in-taylor-marshalls.html) — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!

I think that whoever wrote this needs to do a bit of research.  Pope St. Pius X's father was in fact Polish, born Jan Krawiec, the latter being the Polish word for "Tailor", which he translated to the Italian equivalent "Sarto".
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He was born Giuseppe (Joseph) Melchiorre Sarto into a family of nine children on a small farm in the little village of Riese in the Province of Treviso, Italy near Venice on June 2, 1835 during the pontificate of Pope Gregory XVI. His father Giovanni Battista Sarto, a former postman and yet a cobbler by trade, died when Joseph was very young in 1852. Giovanni had been born Jan Krawiec in Wielkopolska, Poland, a tailor by trade. When Poland fell into Prussian hands, Jan and his wife sought political asylum in Italy. There he became a mailman first outside Treviso in Godero, Italy, and then settling in Riese. To offset any assimilation to his Polish roots for fear of reprisal, Jan translated his name to Giovanni Battista, still the same patron saint he was baptised under and adopted the Italian word for tailor - "sarto" as his new surname.

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: MaterDominici on November 22, 2023, 03:16:10 AM
I know that there's absolutely no one in this world that can escape the usual conspiracy rhetoric on this site.

However, I think this news of Mrs. Peterson's conversion is wonderful. I hope Mr. Peterson finds his way eventually as well.

I put the quote from him in my signature as a unique opinion of a non-Catholic, but perhaps someday it won't be from someone outside looking in.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 23, 2023, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on November 21, 2023, 03:51:35 PM
Should Catholics have followed St Augustine BEFORE he converted just because sometimes he said something Catholic?
What would be the analogy here in this situation?

Quote from: MaterDominici on November 22, 2023, 03:16:10 AM
I put the quote from him in my signature as a unique opinion of a non-Catholic, but perhaps someday it won't be from someone outside looking in.
He got that idea from Jung, IIRC because Jung thought the same.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 23, 2023, 09:50:31 AM
What would be the analogy here in this situation?
Despite his personal brilliance, Catholics should wait until after Dr Peterson's conversion to be influenced by his teachings. Hoping and praying for him is appropriate.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on November 23, 2023, 10:14:48 AM
Peterson is not even close to converting, he's a complete modernist, an insufferable sophist and hasn't even the tiniest bit of intellectual honesty, all of which can be easily seen in just this 50 second clip:

https://youtu.be/V0PWQylV7Ec?feature=shared

This is far from an isolated incident. Furthermore, Peterson admits he's not even right wing, he worked for the UN on some Marxist docuмent and his stated goal is to slow down the leftist revolution SO THAT THE RIGHT DOES NOT WAKE UP AND FIGHT.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on November 23, 2023, 10:16:49 AM


He looks mentally unwell and his mannerisms are also quite fαɢɢօtty.

(https://i.imgur.com/lJCwdly.png)
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Persto on November 23, 2023, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 03:17:31 PM
I agree and think we have to be careful in who we look to as leaders or who we let influence us. Thus, "You will know them by their fruits," is wisdom to always keep in mind I think when trying to make those decisions.
Yes!
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 12:45:19 PM
Opus Dei saint miracle:

https://tinyurl.com/ytf3w8zk
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Persto on November 23, 2023, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 12:45:19 PM
Opus Dei saint miracle:

https://tinyurl.com/ytf3w8zk
Thanks for pointing out this article, that shows Opus Dei involved
in this story. 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 23, 2023, 01:50:18 PM

Quote
his stated goal is to slow down the leftist revolution SO THAT THE RIGHT DOES NOT WAKE UP AND FIGHT.
Exactly right.  I haven’t been able to find a video I watched about 6 months ago, that had many video clips of JP saying just this.  He was trying to modify the Left to keep the right pacified. 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: Uniting Our Prayers on November 21, 2023, 03:17:31 PM
I agree and think we have to be careful in who we look to as leaders or who we let influence us. Thus, "You will know them by their fruits," is wisdom to always keep in mind I think when trying to make those decisions.
The problem is so many today don't know how to judge a fruit. No pun intended.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 02:14:16 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
Despite his personal brilliance, Catholics should wait until after Dr Peterson's conversion to be influenced by his teachings. Hoping and praying for him is appropriate.
Well said.  
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Cera on November 23, 2023, 04:35:42 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 12:45:19 PM
Opus Dei saint miracle:

https://tinyurl.com/ytf3w8zk
Thank you for this

"I brought a rosary blessed by Pope Francis, a little pamphlet on how to pray the rosary and an image of Our Lady and Baby Jesus Chinese (sic)," said Yu, who is herself an adult Catholic convert and now a numerary member of Opus Dei,
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Soubirous on November 23, 2023, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
The problem is so many today don't know how to judge a fruit. No pun intended.

That's happening over at the other thread: https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/voris-niles-out/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/voris-niles-out/)
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 23, 2023, 05:06:09 PM

Douay-Rheims Bible (https://biblehub.com/drbc/ephesians/5.htm)
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Uniting Our Prayers on November 23, 2023, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
Despite his personal brilliance, Catholics should wait until after Dr Peterson's conversion to be influenced by his teachings. Hoping and praying for him is appropriate.
To be sure, is this advice only relevant for being influenced specifically by JP, or does it apply to being influenced by anyone at all in any way if they aren’t (yet) Catholic?

And—why?

(Also, so as to not be misunderstood, I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I just want to try and understand better what you’re saying because on the surface it doesn’t seem to make much sense to me.)
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on November 23, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
Despite his personal brilliance, Catholics should wait until after Dr Peterson's conversion to be influenced by his teachings. Hoping and praying for him is appropriate.
Who of us  on Cathinfo, look to JP for guidance? I am guessing noone.  This post started out as a warning against him.  I think that in general we need to be hopeful for conversion, but we don't need to talk poorly about him.  Do any of us know him personally?  It is not good to keep rumors going.  
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Meg on November 24, 2023, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 08:16:16 AM
Who of us  on Cathinfo, look to JP for guidance? I am guessing noone.  This post started out as a warning against him.  I think that in general we need to be hopeful for conversion, but we don't need to talk poorly about him.  Do any of us know him personally?  It is not good to keep rumors going. 

I think that concern about Peterson is that, since he has a high-profile media presence as a speaker, that he will twist the Catholic Faith the way other media pundits do. If he himself does convert, what will he convert to? His wife has been influenced by members of Opus Dei, which is concerning, but at least she doesn't appear to have a media presence....yet. Opus Dei is a really horrible cult that began to influence the Catholic Church toward liberalism even before Vatican ll.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 09:43:15 AM
Quote from: Meg on November 24, 2023, 09:24:16 AM
I think that concern about Peterson is that, since he has a high-profile media presence as a speaker, that he will twist the Catholic Faith the way other media pundits do. I hope that he does convert, but what will he convert to? His wife has been influenced by members of Opus Dei, which is concerning, but at least she doesn't appear to have a media presence....yet. Opus Dei is a really horrible cult that began to influence the Catholic Church toward liberalism even before Vatican ll.
I understand the worry, but that worry doesn't concern most of us on here.  If someone new comes on here, they will see some Truth and maybe that will lead them to research and find imore.  The problem is the fruits of posts that are unchairtable.  I know this seems harsh, but my character was attacked before I was ever on this forum.  I was called prideful, a Karen, people felt sorry for my husband and children, a trad liberal, a disgrace to my sex, and no one knew anything about me.  The worst part is that when it was found out I was a real person, the people who were highly critical, never apologized. I forgive them. All I want to do is plant good seeds.  I do not want to show lack of charity to any person.  As long as they are living, they can convert.  We should hope in that and not knock them down withour words.  Yes Opus Dei seems to be a strange group, but we need to not worry and take the higher ground.  aif we don't have a personal relationship with the person, then all we need to do is pray harder and act charitable,  even with public figures.  
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Meg on November 24, 2023, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 09:43:15 AM
I understand the worry, but that worry doesn't concern most of us on here.  If someone new comes on here, they will see some Truth and maybe that will lead them to research and find imore.  The problem is the fruits of posts that are unchairtable.  I know this seems harsh, but my character was attacked before I was ever on this forum.  I was called prideful, a Karen, people felt sorry for my husband and children, a trad liberal, a disgrace to my sex, and no one knew anything about me.  The worst part is that when it was found out I was a real person, the people who were highly critical, never apologized. I forgive them. All I want to do is plant good seeds.  I do not want to show lack of charity to any person.  As long as they are living, they can convert.  We should hope in that and not knock them down withour words.  Yes Opus Dei seems to be a strange group, but we need to not worry and take the higher ground.  aif we don't have a personal relationship with the person, then all we need to do is pray harder and act charitable,  even with public figures. 

Yes, the trad circular firing squad is alive and well; always has been. And sadly, probably always will be.

IMO, we do need to worry about how these media influencers affect and mislead others. Peterson has a very large following because he is considered a conservative. Trads have always been wary of those who mislead others, and that's not a bad thing, since our beloved Church has been taken over by a modernist heretical sect. We do have to stay vigilant. It would be good to find a charitable way to do that (stay wary and aware of bad influencers), but I'm not sure that's possible.

The problem with Opus Dei is more than them just being strange. They are like Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ - a secret society - which operates mainly in secret, so that it's difficult to know who its members are. And....they pretend to be conservative, but they are not.

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 24, 2023, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: Gray2023 on November 20, 2023, 03:46:44 PM
But that doesn't really matter if they trust him or not.  What matters is that we make sure we are ready for Heaven and God focused, so if people are inspired to look for Truth because of Peterson, then we are ready to give them that Truth.  God has His hand in everything.
Thank you for this advice.  God bless you.  



Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 10:36:47 AM
Here is my main point.  Yes we have to stay vigilant, but only in saving our own soul, and then we be a light in the darkness.  We all have Guardian Angels, even JP, that Guardian Angel wants His person to be saved.  I think we look so much at the demons we are fighting, than at God and the Angels who are helping us.  
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Soubirous on November 24, 2023, 10:47:02 AM
The natural weakness to look to human respect is also part of the problem. When a person is hurting for some other unrelated reason, it's easy to define any topic in personal terms, and then if someone else points out logical contradictions or criticizes the substance of the matter under discussion, it can be taken as a personal attack when it isn't. 

Also, people are stuck sometimes in a bind where they're influenced by loved ones less interested in the truth. Somebody around the Thanksgiving table talks about how cool or genius or "based" JP is and now the teens in the family now want to know more about JP. Speak or stay silent? Or let the JP fan convince us that maybe we're the one that doesn't get it? 

Nobody said we have to trash JP and his wife, but things get polarized where you either have to be for or against, otherwise both sides will make you a target. The only one we have to be totally for is Christ.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Gray2023 on November 24, 2023, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Soubirous on November 24, 2023, 10:47:02 AM
The natural weakness to look to human respect is also part of the problem. When a person is hurting for some other unrelated reason, it's easy to define any topic in personal terms, and then if someone else points out logical contradictions or criticizes the substance of the matter under discussion, it can be taken as a personal attack when it isn't.

Also, people are stuck sometimes in a bind where they're influenced by loved ones less interested in the truth. Somebody around the Thanksgiving table talks about how cool or genius or "based" JP is and now the teens in the family now want to know more about JP. Speak or stay silent? Or let the JP fan convince us that maybe we're the one that doesn't get it?

Nobody said we have to trash JP and his wife, but things get polarized where you either have to be for or against, otherwise both sides will make you a target. The only one we have to be totally for is Christ.
Yes for Christ, and the rest we use prudence. It's hard to know how to act in any given situation until we are in it.  
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 24, 2023, 12:34:00 PM
Sigh...I know it's hard for women to grasp because we are empathetic creatures who want to believe there are good people in Hollywood and politics, or Youtube influencers who somehow managed to create a following of 5 million people...

but the reality is the game isn't played that way.  You aren't allowed to get to that level unless you are there for a reason, and that reason is NOT to lead people to the

One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith.

The few "good guys" on that level are wolves in sheep's clothing and it is an act of charity to call them out.


(https://i.imgur.com/funAr4R.png)



Here he JP promoting the Noahide Laws. 

Those laws call for the beheading of Christians!

(The commentator is anti-Christian, but you can ignore him because most of the video is clips of Peterson and Ben Shapiro and Rabbis)
 
38:23

https://www.bitchute.com/video/b7ol0lleg8l5/




Noahide.com explains that the

Noahide Laws will cause Christianity

to cease to exist


Do Peterson's 5 million followers know about that?


Since the Vatican under Benedict proclaimed these laws to be incuмbent on all humanity, Peterson would fit right in with the concilliar church.


https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/final-docu%D0%BCent-catholicJ%D1%94%CF%89%CE%B9%D1%95%D0%BD-bilateral-commission-meeting-1979 (https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/final-docuмent-catholicJєωιѕн-bilateral-commission-meeting-1979)



What is the Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition for a Noahide?


(https://i.imgur.com/YCkQulR.png)



What lovely artwork Jordan chooses for his living room:


(https://i.imgur.com/1Fo4s6H.png)

Wouldn't it be nice and cozy to relax under that painting which represents the slaughter and starvation of millions?  His house is full of Soviet art.

People should really learn more about the facts regarding this man rather than sharing their "feelings" about him.   

As his boss, Ben Shapiro, likes to say, "Facts don't care about our feelings."


There is a full page of links here:

https://fitzinfo.net/jordan-peterson-dossier/
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Persto on November 24, 2023, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Miser Peccator on November 24, 2023, 12:34:00 PM
but the reality is the game isn't played that way.  You aren't allowed to get to that level unless you are there for a reason, and that reason is NOT to lead people to the

One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith.

The few "good guys" on that level are wolves in sheep's clothing and it is an act of charity to call them out.


(https://i.imgur.com/funAr4R.png)

Here he JP promoting the Noahide Laws. 
Those laws call for the beheading of Christians!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/b7ol0lleg8l5/
Noahide.com explains that the
Noahide Laws will cause Christianity
to cease to exist
Do Peterson's 5 million followers know about that?

Since the Vatican under Benedict proclaimed these laws to be incuмbent on all humanity, Peterson would fit right in with the concilliar church.

People should really learn more about the facts regarding this man rather than sharing their "feelings" about him.   

As his boss, Ben Shapiro, likes to say, "Facts don't care about our feelings."
There is a full page of links here:
https://fitzinfo.net/jordan-peterson-dossier/
Good information! Thank you
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Mark 79 on November 24, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
Quote from: Miser Peccator on November 24, 2023, 12:34:00 PM
Sigh...I know it's hard for women to grasp because we are empathetic creatures who want to believe there are good people in Hollywood and politics, or Youtube influencers who somehow managed to create a following of 5 million people...

but the reality is the game isn't played that way.  You aren't allowed to get to that level unless you are there for a reason, and that reason is NOT to lead people to the

One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith.

The few "good guys" on that level are wolves in sheep's clothing and it is an act of charity to call them out.


(https://i.imgur.com/funAr4R.png)



Here he JP promoting the Noahide Laws. 

Those laws call for the beheading of Christians!

(The commentator is anti-Christian, but you can ignore him because most of the video is clips of Peterson and Ben Shapiro and Rabbis)
 
38:23

https://www.bitchute.com/video/b7ol0lleg8l5/




Noahide.com explains that the

Noahide Laws will cause Christianity

to cease to exist


Do Peterson's 5 million followers know about that?


Since the Vatican under Benedict proclaimed these laws to be incuмbent on all humanity, Peterson would fit right in with the concilliar church.


https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/final-docu%D0%BCent-catholicJ%D1%94%CF%89%CE%B9%D1%95%D0%BD-bilateral-commission-meeting-1979 (https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/final-docuмent-catholicJєωιѕн-bilateral-commission-meeting-1979)



What is the Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition for a Noahide?…


Good info! More on Noahidism (Judaism for goyim) here: https://judaism.is/noahide-deceit.html

(https://judaism.is/images/noahide%20law.jpg?crc=3889932707)

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 25, 2023, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 24, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
Good info! More on Noahidism (Judaism for goyim) here: https://judaism.is/noahide-deceit.html

(https://judaism.is/images/noahide%20law.jpg?crc=3889932707)


Yes!
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 25, 2023, 01:01:53 AM
There appears to be a plan to move from "team dark" to "team light" while bringing forth the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

Noahide Laws will excite pro-life and anti-sodomy conservatives as world governments take a sharp turn to the right.  Peterson will herd his followers to accept this along with the other CathINC-ers who also promote Noahide Law. 

Sadly, very few Catholics have any idea they actually mean the end of Christianity and the beheading of Christians.  Why does nobody talk about that?  :confused:

JP is also creating an "alternative" to the WEF which will probably be brought down so the "team light saviors" can take control and implement the same goals with a better "sounding" narrative.

This video shows J Peterson's role in this plan, exposing the fact that the backers for his WEF alternative are actually for the same things the WEF stands for. 


AMAZING POLLY ~ SURPRISE! JORDAN PETERSON'S "ARC" WAS BUILT FOR (AND BY) BILLIONAIRES
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UKUyw0OFD40P/

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 25, 2023, 01:59:00 AM
Quote from: Miser Peccator on November 25, 2023, 01:01:53 AM
There appears to be a plan to move from "team dark" to "team light" while bringing forth the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

Noahide Laws will excite pro-life and anti-sodomy conservatives as world governments take a sharp turn to the right.  Peterson will herd his followers to accept this along with the other CathINC-ers who also promote Noahide Law. 

Sadly, very few Catholics have any idea they actually mean the end of Christianity and the beheading of Christians.  Why does nobody talk about that?  :confused:

JP is also creating an "alternative" to the WEF which will probably be brought down so the "team light saviors" can take control and implement the same goals with a better "sounding" narrative.

This video shows J Peterson's role in this plan, exposing the fact that the backers for his WEF alternative are actually for the same things the WEF stands for. 


AMAZING POLLY ~ SURPRISE! JORDAN PETERSON'S "ARC" WAS BUILT FOR (AND BY) BILLIONAIRES
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UKUyw0OFD40P/


That video above is kind of dry and is part 2 and goes into detail about the backers.


This is part 1 and gives the overview of how JP's "alternative" to the WEF:  The ARC (Alliance for Responsible Citizenship)

compares to Klaus Schwab and his gang.

Prior to Peterson's announcement about his project, the WEF held meetings stating that they need a new narrative,

and voila, a new narrative is born.

She poses the hypothesis here but the part 2 above gives more evidence to prove it.

PART ONE about Peterson's WEF alternative:

48:42
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6eNKpKbWqTHs/


It all ends at the same place. 

(Lucifer Pub/Trust)  UN Social Development Goals

Peterson used to work for the UN.  Perhaps he still does.  :confused:



There is more info in this one:


LISTEN BUCKO, PETERSON IS CONTROLLED OP - AMAZING POLLY

50 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Uq449HFbTFdj/


The content is long but these are good videos to help with

understanding how they put influencers out there to play both sides

of the Hegelian Dialectic, while they are always moving towards the goals they already had in the first place.

She exposes his deceptive Christian sounding pro-family language when he is actually promoting eugenics ideals.


It appears that this guy will be influencing many Catholics in the

future so it's worth it to get better informed about him!  :)

Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: dymphnaw on November 28, 2023, 08:01:47 PM
 Can we give the hand sign obsession a rest? 
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: Pax Vobis on November 28, 2023, 08:30:25 PM
If you don't think masons communicate this way, you are very naive.
Title: Re: Jordan Peterson - another sign of warning
Post by: MonsieurValentine on November 28, 2023, 09:13:45 PM
Even though I have never watched a Jordan Peterson video on Youtube his videos are constantly recommended
to me by Youtube's algorithm, despite how many times I've pressed the little button not to recommend whatever channel he happens to be on.
This has gone on for a couple years and it happens to other people I've spoken with too.
He has been elevated higher and faster than any other public figure that might be consider right leaning.
He is probably the biggest gentile gatekeeper in the realm of social media. Fox News serving that purpose
for legacy media.
I recently saw a clip of him hanging out with Ben Shapiro and Bibi then shilling for Zionism with tears in his eyes.
I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the next Sean Hannity, who is second only to John Hagee or Lindsay Graham
in their devotion to Israel.