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Offline SeanJohnson

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Jonah and the Whale
« on: July 03, 2022, 09:41:48 AM »
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  • If being swallowed by a whale sounds like a fable to you:

     
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Jonah and the Whale
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2022, 10:00:49 AM »
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  • Yeah, the Modernists claim that this was just a tall tale because "impossible" that he could have survived 3 days inside a whale.  That, like most of the Modernist nonsense, indicates complete lack of faith.

    Unfortunately, we have to leave it to the Prots to address the issue, as 99% of "Catholics" agree that the story was just an allegory:
    https://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t004.html


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    Re: Jonah and the Whale
    « Reply #2 on: July 03, 2022, 10:08:46 AM »
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  • Meanwhile, "Catholic" Answers claims that it's OK to believe that this was a myth.  Pay no attention to the fact that Our Lord cited it as if it had been a real event, that Sacred Scripture indicates that God has specially "prepared" the whale for this episode, and that no one before the last century ever interpreted this as fiction.

    https://www.catholic.com/qa/is-the-story-of-jonah-and-the-whale-a-myth

    Yet they do cite this incident here:

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    “Strictly literal interpretations of what happened to Jonah actually come in two forms. One relies on the fact that people apparently have been swallowed by whales and lived to talk about it. In 1891 a seaman, James Bartley, from a ship named the Star of the East, was found missing after an eighty-foot sperm whale had been caught. He was presumed drowned. The next day, when the crew cut up the whale, Bartley was discovered alive inside. If Jonah’s three days in the whale were counted like Christ’s three days in the tomb, after the Semitic fashion—that is, parts of three distinct days, but perhaps only slightly more than twenty-four hours total—then it is possible that Jonah could have been coughed up by that great fish just as his story says. This would be a purely natural explanation of the episode.

    “The other literal interpretation is that Jonah indeed underwent what the story, read as straight history, says he did but survived only because of a positive miracle, and several different sorts of miracles have been suggested, such as suspended animation on Jonah’s part or a fish with a remarkably large air supply and decidedly mild gastric juices”


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    Re: Jonah and the Whale
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    Re: Jonah and the Whale
    « Reply #5 on: July 03, 2022, 12:03:40 PM »
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  • CA didn't say it was necessarily "fiction," but claim that it's permissible to read it that way.

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    Re: Jonah and the Whale
    « Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 04:48:55 AM »
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  • Jonah flashes the whale http://judaism.is/sicko-sages.html#whale

    More wisdom from the whoremonger rabbi http://judaism.is/sicko-sages.html#whoremonger • Rabbi Eliezer reports that Jonah scared the whale by  flashing the whale with the “seal of our father Abraham” (his circuмcized penis).



    Source: Pirkê de Rabbi Eliezer : (the chapters of Rabbi Eliezer the Great)
    according to the text of the manuscript belonging to Abraham Epstein of Vienna