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Offline oppositeman

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Its Our Fault Souls Are Condemned To Hell
« on: October 08, 2013, 04:30:45 PM »
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  • Surprised? An important part of our Christian duty is to fulfill our mandate to help Jesus save our brothers and sisters.  Our Father, in His design of our reality, gave His children a very important part to play in the redemption of their brothers and sisters.

    History is filled with amazing stories of conversion, where Jesus Christ uses the prayers, sacrifices, and the sufferings of God’s children and applies them to what Christians call a “change of heart”.

    It’s true, I believe, that God gives every soul many chances to turn away from sin and accept His love for them.  So, why do some souls reject God’s attempts at drawing them to Himself?

    We are responsible, because we are not giving God what He needs to convert all the souls that reject Him.  The more we pray, sacrifice, and suffer for conversions, the more Jesus can do to help lost and defiant souls.

    Christians are called by Jesus to help their brothers and sisters in many different ways. But none are as important as helping Jesus save souls; for this is the “bottom line” of a soul’s eternal existence.

    Do you accept your Christian responsibility to help Jesus save your brothers and sisters?

    Here is a short prayer that Jesus gave to Saint Faustina to help save souls.  He told her every time she prayed this prayer from her heart He would save a soul.
     “O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You”. (Diary 186-187)  

    Do you think you can memorize this prayer and ask your Guardian angel to remind you to say it throughout your waking hours?  Better yet, sit down and pray this prayer 50 or 100 times a day.  Don’t have the time?  You will make the time if it’s important to you, even if it means giving up some leisure activity.

    Your attention to what matter most to God is what’s at stake here, and your decision will be boldly noted in the Heart of God.



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    Its Our Fault Souls Are Condemned To Hell
    « Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 04:41:45 PM »
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  • I don't trust Sister Faustina or her private revelations which I believe came from the devil. I consider her to be a Novus Ordo false "saint." I do not read her writings or pray her divine mercy chaplet or recognize Divine Mercy Sunday or ask for her intercession or have anything to do with her though I do hope she is really in heaven. I would recommend to all that instead of praying this prayer 100 times, you should pray an extra rosary instead.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 11:26:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: oppositeman
    Surprised? An important part of our Christian duty is to fulfill our mandate to help Jesus save our brothers and sisters.  Our Father, in His design of our reality, gave His children a very important part to play in the redemption of their brothers and sisters.

    History is filled with amazing stories of conversion, where Jesus Christ uses the prayers, sacrifices, and the sufferings of God’s children and applies them to what Christians call a “change of heart”.

    It’s true, I believe, that God gives every soul many chances to turn away from sin and accept His love for them.  So, why do some souls reject God’s attempts at drawing them to Himself?

    We are responsible, because we are not giving God what He needs to convert all the souls that reject Him.  The more we pray, sacrifice, and suffer for conversions, the more Jesus can do to help lost and defiant souls.

    Christians are called by Jesus to help their brothers and sisters in many different ways. But none are as important as helping Jesus save souls; for this is the “bottom line” of a soul’s eternal existence.

    Do you accept your Christian responsibility to help Jesus save your brothers and sisters?

    Here is a short prayer that Jesus gave to Saint Faustina to help save souls.  He told her every time she prayed this prayer from her heart He would save a soul.
     “O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You”. (Diary 186-187)  

    Do you think you can memorize this prayer and ask your Guardian angel to remind you to say it throughout your waking hours?  Better yet, sit down and pray this prayer 50 or 100 times a day.  Don’t have the time?  You will make the time if it’s important to you, even if it means giving up some leisure activity.

    Your attention to what matter most to God is what’s at stake here, and your decision will be boldly noted in the Heart of God.


    You are also if because of your sin someone else blasphemes God

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    Its Our Fault Souls Are Condemned To Hell
    « Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 11:37:12 AM »
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    We are responsible, because we are not giving God what He needs to convert all the souls that reject Him.


    I have real problems with this statement.  We are not giving God what He needs?  God does not need anything from us.  God is absolutely capable of carrying out His Divine Will with or without humanity.

    On the other hand, we absolutely need God.  We can accomplish nothing without Him.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 04:04:26 PM »
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    I have real problems with this statement.  We are not giving God what He needs?  God does not need anything from us.  God is absolutely capable of carrying out His Divine Will with or without humanity.


    True enough in the sense you mean it, but Christ has willed that the application of the merits and graces He won on the Cross should in some way be dependent on the prayer and action of the faithful and the Church. Pope Pius XII says that expressly.

    Anyway, on topic, I think the issues about Divine Mercy are well known, even though there is nothing wrong with the chaplet prayer itself. A more traditional prayer along similar lines recommended by the Church would be that which Our dear Lord taught another nun close to His Heart, St. Gertrude the Great, which He told her would release several souls from purgatory. The Church extended the prayer to include living sinners, it runs thus, "Eternal Father, I offer You the most precious blood of thy Divine Son, Jesus, in union with the Masses said throughout the world today, for all the Holy Souls in Purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the universal church, for those in my own home and in my family. Amen."
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.